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N3 AI Consistency--sim driving experts please reply!

5 posts by 5 people · 08 Dec 1999 - 11 Dec 1999 17:25 UTC

I am having a difficult time with the AI at certain tracks in N3. I run at 100% and with a decent amount of practise I can keep up with the front runners at many tracks...as I would expect. But at some tracks, I can do very well very quickly and at some others I can't keep up no matter how hard I try. What I would like to know is whether anyone can comment on what could cause this. Obviously, the Ace set-up could be "better" at some tracks than at others. The AI could be programmed to be "better" at some tracks than at others. It could be that some tracks are harder than others and my skill is limiting me (though it seems like some very similar tracks yield quite different results for me)...and maybe I just need more practise. For those of you who are way better at N3 than me (and there will be lots of you), do you also find this discrepancy? Have you cured it by any of the above (better set-ups, changing the AI settings in the .txt file, more practise)....or all three?? Or, so you still find unusual variability? Thanks. Marc. -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins Computers will never equal humans until they make mistakes and blame them on other computers. ****************************************************************************
RWDEVW 08 Dec 1999#507983
I see your point. I can win every time on Atlanta against 98% AI's, but qualify last by a wide margin when racing Talledega. I've tried a bunch of setups at Talledega, but cannot come close to the speeds reached by other cars either on the straight or in turns. Most of the AI's are 204 to 207 on the straights and 198 to 201 in the turns. I'm at least 3 to 5 mph slower than the AI's and even accounting for bad driving style, I do make a couple a good laps in warmup or in a race. Even my best laps are way off the other cars.
On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:25:19 GMT, "Marc Collins"
Quoted text (15 lines)>I am having a difficult time with the AI at certain tracks in N3. I run at >100% and with a decent amount of practise I can keep up with the front >runners at many tracks...as I would expect. But at some tracks, I can do >very well very quickly and at some others I can't keep up no matter how hard >I try. >What I would like to know is whether anyone can comment on what could cause >this. Obviously, the Ace set-up could be "better" at some tracks than at >others. The AI could be programmed to be "better" at some tracks than at >others. It could be that some tracks are harder than others and my skill is >limiting me (though it seems like some very similar tracks yield quite >different results for me)...and maybe I just need more practise. >For those of you who are way better at N3 than me (and there will be lots of >you), do you also find this discrepancy?
Yes I have in the past when I ran an offline league I would usually lower the AI settings in the .txt file in able to keep the ai strength at a given percentage. I would lower the RELS in the .txt file. I have also found that at some tracks, the AI qual speeds are outrageous so i would also tweak the BLAP setting Skotty Flynn http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com "skotty" on WON
Concerning AI at Talladega, I ran the following race: Race length - 15% (28 laps) AI - 90% 12 car field Ace setup I qualified at 49.01, all the AI qualified 53.xx - 54.xx. I was 4-5 seconds faster than all cars on the qualifying lap, but when I ran the race, I only had a 3 second lead after 20 laps, when I quit the race. I ran another race with the same setup except changing to Michigan track, which was 30 laps instead of 28. I qualified 2-3 seconds faster than all cars, and when I ran the race, I lapped all 11 cars, the last 7 I lapped twice. There certainly is some major AI inconsistency in the 2 tracks. Can anybody explain this?
Quoted text (7 lines)> I see your point. I can win every time on Atlanta against 98% AI's, but qualify > last by a wide margin when racing Talledega. I've tried a bunch of setups at > Talledega, but cannot come close to the speeds reached by other cars either on > the straight or in turns. Most of the AI's are 204 to 207 on the straights and > 198 to 201 in the turns. I'm at least 3 to 5 mph slower than the AI's and even > accounting for bad driving style, I do make a couple a good laps in warmup or > in a race. Even my best laps are way off the other cars.
***************************** * Reggie Brooks * * ***ia Beach, VA * *****************************
dnr 11 Dec 1999 17:25 UTC#291394
Well for starters, Talladega is just over a half mile longer than Michigan. This I feel, is the biggest 'discrepancy' in your results. Shorter track, shorter lap, ergo you'd lap more cars. Not a bug in my book. Reggie Brooks wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (8 lines)>Concerning AI at Talladega, I ran the following race: > >Race length - 15% (28 laps) >AI - 90% >12 car field >Ace setup > >I qualified at 49.01, all the AI qualified 53.xx - 54.xx. I was 4-5 seconds
faster >than all cars on the qualifying lap, but when I ran the race, I only had a3 second >lead after 20 laps, when I quit the race. > >I ran another race with the same setup except changing to Michigan track,which was >30 laps instead of 28. I qualified 2-3 seconds faster than all cars, andwhen I ran >the race, I lapped all 11 cars, the last 7 I lapped twice. > >There certainly is some major AI inconsistency in the 2 tracks. Can anybodyexplain >this? > >RWDEVW wrote: > >> I see your point. I can win every time on Atlanta against 98% AI's, butqualify >> last by a wide margin when racing Talledega. I've tried a bunch of setupsat >> Talledega, but cannot come close to the speeds reached by other carseither on >> the straight or in turns. Most of the AI's are 204 to 207 on thestraights and >> 198 to 201 in the turns. I'm at least 3 to 5 mph slower than the AI's andeven >> accounting for bad driving style, I do make a couple a good laps inwarmup or
Quoted text (9 lines)>> in a race. Even my best laps are way off the other cars. > >***************************** >* Reggie Brooks * >* Virginia Beach, VA * >* [email hidden] * >***************************** > >

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