G.P.L can't get better then 6th

I'm getting frustrated i can't Qualify higher then sixth in the Eagle at Monza.Any help pleeeeeeessssse? Thanks Joe.

Well? What's your problem? I never qualified better than 8th (Ferrari) and I'm still very pleased. I don't like racing in lower classes or setting the AI back, so I just keep trying to beet the AI as is. And I'm really not surprised that I'm not able to beat Mr. Clark after one year of practise. Do you really think good ol' Jimmy got this fast in just a year. I think not. So.... don't cry out for help and be proud of your six position! My main goal still is to finish with at least one driver still behind me. This at least gives me the feeling I'm not totaly slow :-) This is for the pro short races. With full GP's I'm just very glad to finish. I don't mind the four or more laps I'm behind. You can even finish in the top ten with 4L on the race result list. It's amazing how many AI driver actually retire during a full GP. Now get back to you wheel and feel good about whatever place you get! // Johan. > I'm getting frustrated i can't Qualify higher then sixth in the Eagle at > Monza.Any help pleeeeeeessssse? > Thanks > Joe.

Congratulations! Welcome to the real world where -- contrary to popular belief -- we can't all be winners :-) Fortunately we can all be millionaires (according to the spam I keep getting) so life's not all bad! Andrew McP

Reinstall GPL :o). /Chrille

If I remember correctly then GPL is designed for the AI's to get a little better as you get better so its actually possible to go to the top level and never get pole or maybe a race win!?!?! Its kinda like the way the AI's make mistakes in GPL, it sounds good on the box but just wait until an AI punts you off the track.

Drive Faster :) I know its possible...I qualed on the pole nd finished 2nd in the Eagle at Monza so keep at it. In other words...practice, practice and practice some more :) Chris

I think the idea is to run constant times, AI sets itself to certain speed according your previous laptimes(online warptimes mess the whole system badly, I had AI running low 1:23's at Monza). If you are constant and can maintain that speed, you should be able to win it, unless there is those "warp times", then it's just impossible. Schlomo4 kirjoitti viestiss?

Do you know how to "sandbag"? That happens when you wait until the other person is unaware and then you clobber him with a sandbag! I thrashed out a great F2 Brabham setup for The Glen that I realized was faster than those rascals in the computer cars were driving. I started a Single Race but instead of running out and setting the fastest times I could, I just warmed the tires remaining and hit the track. One recon lap to make sure Ginther was in the pit and then I took off for one good "keeper" lap followed by a balls-to-the-wall PB lap and I had the pole by .58 seconds! Since the end-of-qualy flag had fallen just after I started my banzai lap, the AI was effectively sandbagged and unable to react. Heh heh. Hulme used the Papy "magic traction" cheat to beat me off the line and Black Jack got me in Big Bend for second but we left those Loti as single pixels in our mirrors. Mtanker A V A S T Right-Wing Conspirator

It's called global hype, and you can turn it off in one of the .ini files. Not really cheating, but well, the honour of winning goes down a bit. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

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>>AI sets itself to certain speed >>according your previous laptimes >Do you know how to "sandbag"? That happens when you wait until the other >person is unaware and then you clobber him with a sandbag! I thrashed out a >great F2 Brabham setup for The Glen that I realized was faster than those >rascals in the computer cars were driving. I started a Single Race but instead >of running out and setting the fastest times I could, I just warmed the tires >remaining and hit the track. One recon lap to make sure Ginther was in the pit >and then I took off for one good "keeper" lap followed by a balls-to-the-wall >PB lap and I had the pole by .58 seconds! Since the end-of-qualy flag had >fallen just after I started my banzai lap, the AI was effectively sandbagged >and unable to react. Heh heh. Hulme used the Papy "magic traction" cheat to >beat me off the line and Black Jack got me in Big Bend for second but we left >those Loti as single pixels in our mirrors.

Don't think that's really necessary. I find that as long as I can improve my PB over the last time that I raced at that circuit then it will put me on pole if I was originally quicker than the AI in the first place. This is guaranteed no matter at what stage during qualifying that I set this PB. This is at the Grand Prix level. In fact I find that the AI are about anything from a couple of 10ths to a whole second off my previous PB, and because I am still improving each time I return to a circuit then they are not getting any closer. :-) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

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>>If I remember correctly then GPL is designed for the AI's to get a little >>better as you get better so its actually possible to go to the top level and >>never get pole or maybe a race win!?!?! >It's called global hype, and you can turn it off in one of the .ini >files. >Not really cheating, but well, the honour of winning goes down a bit.

How's that? You beat the AI that came out of the box, not the AI that has been 'enhanced'. If the computer always gets faster(and of course computers adapt faster), then it already has another advantage. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Don't think that's really necessary. I find that as long as I can >improve my PB over the last time that I raced at that circuit then it >will put me on pole if I was originally quicker than the AI in the first >place. This is guaranteed no matter at what stage during qualifying >that I set this PB. This is at the Grand Prix level. >In fact I find that the AI are about anything from a couple of 10ths to >a whole second off my previous PB, and because I am still improving each >time I return to a circuit then they are not getting any closer. :-) >--

Some of us haven't gotten fast enough for our PB to beat the AI. My PB at Monza is still 1 to 1.5 second off what Clark does right out of the box... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

No wonder i do my best laps early get frustrarted when theres a sudden increase in the compititions ability and push that little bit to hard.This is a real ballbreacker of a game? thanks Joe

From the readme.txt (1.0): --- npt_override = 0.00 ; set to > 0.0 to override normalized player time This is the main one for controlling AI speed. Setting it to 1.0 would make all AI cars run at their baseline time. Below 1.0 causes faster cars; above 1.0 slower. --- Note this is in gpl_ai.ini under [magic]. Try setting it to 1.0 or delete your player.sts file somewhere in the GPL directory (players/YourName/player.sts). This holds somewhat of the last 10 best times you did on all tracks. The average is a factor for hyping the AI. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

Lol, I'm tickled pink anytime I finish in the top 10. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends

I never got that to work correctly. It didn't seem to have any effect. Clark STILL does 1:27's at Monza... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Practice wont do it against the AI in GPL, cause as you get better they get better. So you have to fool the AI to beat them. Either get much better in a short period of time or fiddle with the AI parameters in the ini-files. There may be other ways to fool the AI implementation. A reinstall of GPL will make them really slow for a couple of races. /Chrille

No, you just have to be lucky not to get warptimes in online-races AND be _very_ constant. No fooling here and I've won them several times ;)

Just a (slightly) realistic game. Do you honestly think you could ever beat Jimmy Clark in a short sprint race in a 1967 GP car? In GPL you have a small chance. Run a full length GP, use the Brabham, and beat 'em with reliability. Very realistic :-). bob

Doesn't "_very_ constant" demand a lot of practice? /Chrille Marko Viitanen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:82ok6j$llr$[email hidden]... > No, you just have to be lucky not to get warptimes in online-races AND be > _very_ constant. No fooling here and I've won them several times ;) > > "Christer Andersson" <[email hidden]> wrote inmessage > news:QgN34.10507$[email hidden]... > > Practice wont do it against the AI in GPL, cause as you get better they > get > > better. So you have to fool the AI to beat them. Either get much betterin > a > > short period of time or fiddle with the AI parameters in the ini-files. > > There may be other ways to fool the AI implementation. A reinstall ofGPL > > will make them really slow for a couple of races. > > > > /Chrille > > >