suggestions for alternative sim forum?

Hi, After 10 or so years as a regular reader (if not contributor) on R.A.S, I think the time has come to abandon USENET for a web based forum. The usage of R.A.S is in decline, and most Internet users these days wouldn't know what a newsgroup was. I would appreciate some suggestions of where I can find a friendly, reasonably mature, sim racing forum on the web. I am familiar with RaceSimCentral, but find the compartmentalised forum structure frustrating. Tim

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:36:42 GMT, Tim Epstein wrote:

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> Hi, > > After 10 or so years as a regular reader (if not contributor) on R.A.S, I > think the time has come to abandon USENET for a web based forum. The usage > of R.A.S is in decline, and most Internet users these days wouldn't know > what a newsgroup was. > > I would appreciate some suggestions of where I can find a friendly, > reasonably mature, sim racing forum on the web. I am familiar with > RaceSimCentral, but find the compartmentalised forum structure frustrating. >

Hi Tim, while I agree that RAS participation has been better in the past, the popularity of "web forums" are a blessing and a curse at the same time. I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or being able to use the newsreader of my choice. Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. Maybe you should point other interested simracers here and educate them about usenet, the decentralised structure is a big plus as is the lack of the all powerful mods stroking their egos in several forums (of course, that also has a downside as we've all seen a few times, but that's what killfiles have been invented for). I don't think usenet is going away anytime soon. As they saying goes, the whole internet thing went downhill after they added pictures. ;-) All the best, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

[email hidden] (Tim Epstein) wrote: > but find the compartmentalised forum structure frustrating. Which is why, despite Mitch, despite the bickering, despite the ancient, olde worlde newgroupe technology, we're still here. :-) Andrew McP

Uwe, Many thanks for your reply - much appreciated.j Whilst I agree with most of your points (and Andrew's) - especially: > I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, > flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or > being able to use the newsreader of my choice I unforutnately have very good reasons to believe they are in vein :-( 25 years ago I flicked the 'auto-answer' switch on my 300 baud modem on evening and set up a BBS. Soon I was to join Fidonet, a global amateur network for email and forums that grew to around 10,000 systems by the early 1990s. In 1995-6 the rise of the Internet saw an 90% decline in the number of text based Fidonet systems, and the widespread adoption of broadband saw the demise of most of the remainder. However, there are still some die hards out there, and Fidonet still lives on. It is almost a zombie experience. Each week, an autogenerated copy of 'fidonews' the official newsletters comes out, mostly with zero human content for that week. The official newsletter site www.fidonews.org. hasn't been updated for longer than Racing Legends! I walked away from Fidonet 10 years as I saw the decline become terminal. I didn't want to become one of the living dead that couldn't adapt to new technology. Yes, the Internet didn't seem to be so friendly and communal, but I adapted and didn't look back. I looked to experience the future rather than be locked in the past. Now I again have my small groups of real friends on Facebook, and enjoy a very rich and rewarding experience sharing my life with friends all over the world. USENET is dying, and its time to move on. Many ISPs are turning off their newsgroups servers, and this trend is bound to accelerate now that the RIAA is in court trying to shut down usenet.com http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/10/can_the_riaa_cl.html I am personally willing to assist in setting up a 'home away from home' for R.A.S. on the web, as I wouldn't like to suddenly lose contact with the people such as yourselves whose messages I've been enjoying for so many years. Let's focus on the experience and the community, not the technology platform. Cheers, Tim p.s. Please contact me eppy a t pobox dotcom if you would like to take up my suggestion. However, "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:36:42 GMT, Tim Epstein wrote: >> Hi, >> >> After 10 or so years as a regular reader (if not contributor) on R.A.S, I >> think the time has come to abandon USENET for a web based forum. The >> usage >> of R.A.S is in decline, and most Internet users these days wouldn't know >> what a newsgroup was. >> >> I would appreciate some suggestions of where I can find a friendly, >> reasonably mature, sim racing forum on the web. I am familiar with >> RaceSimCentral, but find the compartmentalised forum structure >> frustrating. >> > > Hi Tim, > > while I agree that RAS participation has been better in the past, the > popularity of "web forums" are a blessing and a curse at the same time. > I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, > flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or > being able to use the newsreader of my choice. > > Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I > usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. > > Maybe you should point other interested simracers here and educate them > about usenet, the decentralised structure is a big plus as is the lack > of the all powerful mods stroking their egos in several forums (of > course, that also has a downside as we've all seen a few times, but > that's what killfiles have been invented for). > > I don't think usenet is going away anytime soon. As they saying goes, > the whole internet thing went downhill after they added pictures. ;-) > > All the best, uwe > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eyVWi.41476$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > After 10 or so years as a regular reader (if not contributor) on R.A.S, I > think the time has come to abandon USENET for a web based forum. The usage > of R.A.S is in decline, and most Internet users these days wouldn't know > what a newsgroup was. > > I would appreciate some suggestions of where I can find a friendly, > reasonably mature, sim racing forum on the web. I am familiar with > RaceSimCentral, but find the compartmentalised forum structure > frustrating. > > Tim >

Well there's........ http://www.bhmotorsports.com/board/ http://www.drivingitalia.net/ (mainly Italian) http://www.thewayiplay.com/mainforum/index.php?action=forum http://www.nogripracing.com/

Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I > usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. Not one person responded to my post asking about how to get NR2002 to use widescreen resolution so for me this newsgroup has become close to useless. I only still come here out of habit. The flight-sim group is even more useless. It's a sad state of affairs. All Usenet is really useful for now is downloading porn.

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> Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > >> Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I >> usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. > > Not one person responded to my post asking about how to get NR2002 to > use widescreen resolution so for me this newsgroup has become close to > useless. I only still come here out of habit. The flight-sim group is > even more useless. It's a sad state of affairs. All Usenet is really > useful for now is downloading porn.

There is an element of quality over quantity on RAS though. With busy web forums it can be hard to find answers especially when threads digress. Plus there are those on here I whose judgment I would regard highly. NR2002 is maybe a little too obscure. If it had been NR2003 I am sure you would have had an answer. I used a Matrox Parhelia across three screens successfully with NR2003 but couldn't answer for NR2002. Cheers Tony

I doubt usnet never dies, because there is no way one person can kill it. Which is exactly the point :) As long as everyone has there Mitch-The-Bitch filters on, it's not so bad around here other than a general aire of bordome about. Hopefully we'll have new things to talk about some day :) -Larry "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IYZWi.41601$[email hidden]...

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> Uwe, > > Many thanks for your reply - much appreciated.j > > Whilst I agree with most of your points (and Andrew's) - especially: > >> I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, >> flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or >> being able to use the newsreader of my choice > > I unforutnately have very good reasons to believe they are in vein :-( > > 25 years ago I flicked the 'auto-answer' switch on my 300 baud modem on > evening and set up a BBS. Soon I was to join Fidonet, a global amateur > network for email and forums that grew to around 10,000 systems by the > early 1990s. In 1995-6 the rise of the Internet saw an 90% decline in the > number of text based Fidonet systems, and the widespread adoption of > broadband saw the demise of most of the remainder. However, there are > still some die hards out there, and Fidonet still lives on. It is almost a > zombie experience. Each week, an autogenerated copy of 'fidonews' the > official newsletters comes out, mostly with zero human content for that > week. The official newsletter site www.fidonews.org. hasn't been updated > for longer than Racing Legends! > > I walked away from Fidonet 10 years as I saw the decline become terminal. > I didn't want to become one of the living dead that couldn't adapt to new > technology. Yes, the Internet didn't seem to be so friendly and communal, > but I adapted and didn't look back. I looked to experience the future > rather than be locked in the past. Now I again have my small groups of > real friends on Facebook, and enjoy a very rich and rewarding experience > sharing my life with friends all over the world. > > USENET is dying, and its time to move on. Many ISPs are turning off their > newsgroups servers, and this trend is bound to accelerate now that the > RIAA is in court trying to shut down usenet.com > > http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/10/can_the_riaa_cl.html > > I am personally willing to assist in setting up a 'home away from home' > for R.A.S. on the web, as I wouldn't like to suddenly lose contact with > the people such as yourselves whose messages I've been enjoying for so > many years. Let's focus on the experience and the community, not the > technology platform. > > Cheers, > Tim > > p.s. Please contact me eppy a t pobox dotcom if you would like to take up > my suggestion. > > > > > > > However, > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:36:42 GMT, Tim Epstein wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> After 10 or so years as a regular reader (if not contributor) on R.A.S, >>> I >>> think the time has come to abandon USENET for a web based forum. The >>> usage >>> of R.A.S is in decline, and most Internet users these days wouldn't know >>> what a newsgroup was. >>> >>> I would appreciate some suggestions of where I can find a friendly, >>> reasonably mature, sim racing forum on the web. I am familiar with >>> RaceSimCentral, but find the compartmentalised forum structure >>> frustrating. >>> >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> while I agree that RAS participation has been better in the past, the >> popularity of "web forums" are a blessing and a curse at the same time. >> I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, >> flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or >> being able to use the newsreader of my choice. >> >> Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I >> usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. >> >> Maybe you should point other interested simracers here and educate them >> about usenet, the decentralised structure is a big plus as is the lack >> of the all powerful mods stroking their egos in several forums (of >> course, that also has a downside as we've all seen a few times, but >> that's what killfiles have been invented for). >> >> I don't think usenet is going away anytime soon. As they saying goes, >> the whole internet thing went downhill after they added pictures. ;-) >> >> All the best, uwe >> >> -- >> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 >

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> > There is an element of quality over quantity on RAS though. With busy > web forums it can be hard to find answers especially when threads > digress. Plus there are those on here I whose judgment I would regard > highly. > > Cheers > Tony

Which is exactly why this is a good place. You have to know about it. Only people that actually know something really post here. Except of course, the Mitch hater that posts in his name.

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qg6Xi.3022$[email hidden]... >I doubt usnet never dies, because there is no way one person can kill it. You've used a double negative in the above sentance.

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> Which is exactly the point :) > > As long as everyone has there Mitch-The-Bitch filters on, it's not so bad > around here other than a general aire of bordome about. Hopefully we'll > have new things to talk about some day :) > > -Larry > > "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IYZWi.41601$[email hidden]... >> Uwe, >> >> Many thanks for your reply - much appreciated.j >> >> Whilst I agree with most of your points (and Andrew's) - especially: >> >>> I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, >>> flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or >>> being able to use the newsreader of my choice >> >> I unforutnately have very good reasons to believe they are in vein :-( >> >> 25 years ago I flicked the 'auto-answer' switch on my 300 baud modem on >> evening and set up a BBS. Soon I was to join Fidonet, a global amateur >> network for email and forums that grew to around 10,000 systems by the >> early 1990s. In 1995-6 the rise of the Internet saw an 90% decline in the >> number of text based Fidonet systems, and the widespread adoption of >> broadband saw the demise of most of the remainder. However, there are >> still some die hards out there, and Fidonet still lives on. It is almost >> a zombie experience. Each week, an autogenerated copy of 'fidonews' the >> official newsletters comes out, mostly with zero human content for that >> week. The official newsletter site www.fidonews.org. hasn't been updated >> for longer than Racing Legends! >> >> I walked away from Fidonet 10 years as I saw the decline become terminal. >> I didn't want to become one of the living dead that couldn't adapt to new >> technology. Yes, the Internet didn't seem to be so friendly and communal, >> but I adapted and didn't look back. I looked to experience the future >> rather than be locked in the past. Now I again have my small groups of >> real friends on Facebook, and enjoy a very rich and rewarding experience >> sharing my life with friends all over the world. >> >> USENET is dying, and its time to move on. Many ISPs are turning off their >> newsgroups servers, and this trend is bound to accelerate now that the >> RIAA is in court trying to shut down usenet.com >> >> http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/10/can_the_riaa_cl.html >> >> I am personally willing to assist in setting up a 'home away from home' >> for R.A.S. on the web, as I wouldn't like to suddenly lose contact with >> the people such as yourselves whose messages I've been enjoying for so >> many years. Let's focus on the experience and the community, not the >> technology platform. >> >> Cheers, >> Tim >> >> p.s. Please contact me eppy a t pobox dotcom if you would like to take up >> my suggestion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> However, >> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:36:42 GMT, Tim Epstein wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> After 10 or so years as a regular reader (if not contributor) on R.A.S, >>>> I >>>> think the time has come to abandon USENET for a web based forum. The >>>> usage >>>> of R.A.S is in decline, and most Internet users these days wouldn't >>>> know >>>> what a newsgroup was. >>>> >>>> I would appreciate some suggestions of where I can find a friendly, >>>> reasonably mature, sim racing forum on the web. I am familiar with >>>> RaceSimCentral, but find the compartmentalised forum structure >>>> frustrating. >>>> >>> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> while I agree that RAS participation has been better in the past, the >>> popularity of "web forums" are a blessing and a curse at the same time. >>> I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, >>> flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or >>> being able to use the newsreader of my choice. >>> >>> Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I >>> usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. >>> >>> Maybe you should point other interested simracers here and educate them >>> about usenet, the decentralised structure is a big plus as is the lack >>> of the all powerful mods stroking their egos in several forums (of >>> course, that also has a downside as we've all seen a few times, but >>> that's what killfiles have been invented for). >>> >>> I don't think usenet is going away anytime soon. As they saying goes, >>> the whole internet thing went downhill after they added pictures. ;-) >>> >>> All the best, uwe >>> >>> -- >>> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 >> >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qg6Xi.3022$[email hidden]...

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>I doubt usnet never dies, because there is no way one person can kill it. > > Which is exactly the point :) > > As long as everyone has there Mitch-The-Bitch filters on, it's not so bad > around here other than a general aire of bordome about. Hopefully we'll > have new things to talk about some day :) > > -Larry

Hey Larry :-) Wish we were still racing. I race at RACER and Race 2 Play pretty much exclusively now. I know that "new things" means iRacing, but I dropped out of the beta testing.........2 years ago, and at that time a product was supposed to be coming soon. :-/ Something isn't right obviously. Dave

"Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IYZWi.41601$[email hidden]...

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> > USENET is dying, and its time to move on. Many ISPs are turning off their > newsgroups servers, and this trend is bound to accelerate now that the > RIAA is in court trying to shut down usenet.com > > http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/10/can_the_riaa_cl.html > > I am personally willing to assist in setting up a 'home away from home' > for R.A.S. on the web, as I wouldn't like to suddenly lose contact with > the people such as yourselves whose messages I've been enjoying for so > many years. Let's focus on the experience and the community, not the > technology platform. >

Shut down usenet??? That would be a very foolish thing to attempt. Imagine how many technically gifted people would have a vendetta with said idiot - it would be pure business suicide! And in any case, they are only talking about the file sharing aspect of usenet. Should usenet die, the interenet would be like apple pie with no cream - it would still be pretty good but an important ingredient would be missing - outright freedom - the jungle - with all it's jewels and horrors. Anything other than usenet = moderation = filtering = missing information. For the real facts about anything, usenet is the place to go. It's a simple matter of distinguishing shit from fact - and that's a skill that should be constantly exercised and sharp anyway. Long live usenet - where you don't need to be told you are free and how well you're doing - you are free (or cowardly) and doing well (or not)!

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> Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote: > >> Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I >> usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. > > Not one person responded to my post asking about how to get NR2002 to use > widescreen resolution so for me this newsgroup has become close to > useless. I only still come here out of habit. The flight-sim group is even > more useless. It's a sad state of affairs. All Usenet is really useful for > now is downloading porn.

Well, you would only really expect to get that sort of tech stuff on current sims in here - I bet that particular info will be hard to find anywhere. This group is good for current stuff and for general simming issues and discussions, like hammering companies for example! PS - was there such a thing as widescreen when NR2002 was released? If there's a widescreen resolution then select it and that's it. If there is one and it won't work then you have hardware issues - maybe the monitor/tv does not like whatever resolution you're selecting.

I'll have to look into Race 2 Play. As you know, though, I'm not a huge ISI sim fan :) I can't even keep up with rFactor any more, that's my biggest problem with it. GTR2 is actually ok. My issue there is I lost it in one of my many office cleanings somewhere along the like. I think it's only $19 so I may buy it again. If any of the old Rascarians are up for it, I think I have enough bandwidth to host us all for a day of NR2003 fun. If for no other reason, just for the old gang to get together again for a bit :) -Larry "Dave F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qg6Xi.3022$[email hidden]... >>I doubt usnet never dies, because there is no way one person can kill it. >> >> Which is exactly the point :) >> >> As long as everyone has there Mitch-The-Bitch filters on, it's not so bad >> around here other than a general aire of bordome about. Hopefully we'll >> have new things to talk about some day :) >> >> -Larry > > Hey Larry :-) > > Wish we were still racing. I race at RACER and Race 2 Play pretty much > exclusively now. > > I know that "new things" means iRacing, but I dropped out of the beta > testing.........2 years ago, and at that time a product was supposed to be > coming soon. :-/ Something isn't right obviously. > > Dave >

Dave, You still have my email? If so, email me or send me yours. I'll give you a call. -Larry "Dave F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qg6Xi.3022$[email hidden]... >>I doubt usnet never dies, because there is no way one person can kill it. >> >> Which is exactly the point :) >> >> As long as everyone has there Mitch-The-Bitch filters on, it's not so bad >> around here other than a general aire of bordome about. Hopefully we'll >> have new things to talk about some day :) >> >> -Larry > > Hey Larry :-) > > Wish we were still racing. I race at RACER and Race 2 Play pretty much > exclusively now. > > I know that "new things" means iRacing, but I dropped out of the beta > testing.........2 years ago, and at that time a product was supposed to be > coming soon. :-/ Something isn't right obviously. > > Dave >

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> > Well, you would only really expect to get that sort of tech stuff on > current sims in here - I bet that particular info will be hard to find > anywhere. This group is good for current stuff and for general simming > issues and discussions, like hammering companies for example! > > PS - was there such a thing as widescreen when NR2002 was released? If > there's a widescreen resolution then select it and that's it. If there is > one and it won't work then you have hardware issues - maybe the monitor/tv > does not like whatever resolution you're selecting. > >

No, there is no widescreen option in the game but sometimes you can make older games use a widescreen resolution by hacking an .ini file or such. I've even seen some hacks for older games that have to edit the hex code in the exe file to run the game at a widescreen res. I searched for such info on NR2002 but can't find any so looks like I am SOL. Was hoping someone here might know how. That's what I get for not buying NR2003 when I could have. Now no one sells it so can't buy it anyway and I don't do eBay. A lot of older games are quite capable of running at any resolution your monitor supports but there are apparently a lot of lazy game programmers out there who only give a few 4:3 resolution options to save them time and money. From now on I don't buy any games that don't support widescreen unless there are known hacks that can make them run at widescreen res.

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> No, there is no widescreen option in the game but sometimes you can make > older games use a widescreen resolution by hacking an .ini file or such. > I've even seen some hacks for older games that have to edit the hex code > in the exe file to run the game at a widescreen res. I searched for such > info on NR2002 but can't find any so looks like I am SOL. Was hoping > someone here might know how. That's what I get for not buying NR2003 > when I could have. Now no one sells it so can't buy it anyway and I > don't do eBay.

Yes, with GPL there was a modified rastd3d7.dll which allowed for widescreen variations with the dx7 limits. The Matrox Parhelia worked in surround gaming mode with NR2002 so it would seem possible: http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/matrox_parhelia/page_15.shtml Can't find any patches though :( Cheers Tony

Dave F wrote: > I know that "new things" means iRacing, but I dropped out of the beta > testing.........2 years ago, and at that time a product was supposed to be > coming soon. :-/ Something isn't right obviously. I think any target dates have always been a closely guarded secret though and I don't believe the product was "imminent" back then, it was the start of a long project. In order for iRacing to succeed it needs to be very very good to hook the millions of Gran Turismo racers into PC sims in addition to the small existing market. I don't think we will see any form of soft launch or pilot to a sim group like us, this is going to be a marketing onslaught and the product will have to deliver in all areas. Of course in the meantime ISI, Blimey! & Simbin have been doing a pretty fine job evolving their sims. RACE07 demonstrates how far the current gmotor2 sims have gone and with Lizard in development things look pretty good. iRacing will be a revolutionary concept, but whether it will be enough to blow away the current developers targeting the hardcore sim racers we just don't know. The big question will be in the time it takes for the iRacing revolution to happen if the Blimey!, ISI & Simbin evolution has got just as far in the meantime. Either way it seems a pretty good future for sim racing fans. Cheers Tony

"Tony R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:p0MXi.57757$[email hidden]...

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> John Adams wrote: > >> No, there is no widescreen option in the game but sometimes you can make >> older games use a widescreen resolution by hacking an .ini file or such. >> I've even seen some hacks for older games that have to edit the hex code >> in the exe file to run the game at a widescreen res. I searched for such >> info on NR2002 but can't find any so looks like I am SOL. Was hoping >> someone here might know how. That's what I get for not buying NR2003 when >> I could have. Now no one sells it so can't buy it anyway and I don't do >> eBay. > > Yes, with GPL there was a modified rastd3d7.dll which allowed for > widescreen variations with the dx7 limits. > > The Matrox Parhelia worked in surround gaming mode with NR2002 so it would > seem possible: > > http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/matrox_parhelia/page_15.shtml > > Can't find any patches though :( > > Cheers > Tony

Don't forget that GPL was letterboxed to start with though - a simple matter of chopping off the top and bottom blacked out bits. To do that with NR2003 means chopping stuff out ie like critical dash items perhaps. Maybe that's why it's not been done?

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> Yes, with GPL there was a modified rastd3d7.dll which allowed for > widescreen variations with the dx7 limits. > > The Matrox Parhelia worked in surround gaming mode with NR2002 so it > would seem possible: > > http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/matrox_parhelia/page_15.shtml > > Can't find any patches though :( > > Cheers > Tony

Oh well, too bad. It's like the ISI F1 '99-02'. It doesn't show any widescreen resolutions in the options and yet all the later ISI based games do so obviously it is capable of widescreen.

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:52:26 -0500, Larry wrote: > If any of the old Rascarians are up for it, I think I have enough bandwidth > to host us all for a day of NR2003 fun. If for no other reason, just for > the old gang to get together again for a bit :) That would be fun indeed. Are you thinking about going in circles or do you have some sports car / transam action in mind? I still have a RASCAR forum somewhere, but I guess its usage would kinda defeat the purpose of breathing new life into RAS or RASCAR for that matter ;-) All the best, Uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:54:05 GMT, John Adams wrote: > Oh well, too bad. It's like the ISI F1 '99-02'. It doesn't show any > widescreen resolutions in the options and yet all the later ISI based > games do so obviously it is capable of widescreen. Is that "F1 Challenge"? I had the box in my hands the other day and thought "well, I could give this one a try again", but if it doesn't support 1680 x 1050 then I'd have to run it in 1024x768 or something similar (mind you, RBR looks ok in that res, too). cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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> Is that "F1 Challenge"? I had the box in my hands the other day and > thought "well, I could give this one a try again", but if it doesn't > support 1680 x 1050 then I'd have to run it in 1024x768 or something > similar (mind you, RBR looks ok in that res, too). > > cheers, uwe >

Yes, F1 Challenge. It has some widescreen resolutions listed like 1280x768, 1280x800 etc. so you are not stuck with a 4:3 res but it is only showing a max of 1600x1200 when I want 1680x1050. I had a 4:3 CRT monitor when I first installed the game so maybe I need to uninstall it and install again for it to recognize the new monitor resolutions? All the later ISI games show 1680x1050.

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:49:53 GMT, John Adams wrote: > monitor when I first installed the game so maybe I need to uninstall it > and install again for it to recognize the new monitor resolutions? All > the later ISI games show 1680x1050. Hi John, that's a good question, I'll try it later when I'm at home and have a look at what resolutions the Installer / config program comes up with. All the best, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

NR2003 fully supports widescreen... -Larry "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:472ff064$[email hidden]... > Don't forget that GPL was letterboxed to start with though - a simple > matter of chopping off the top and bottom blacked out bits. To do that > with NR2003 means chopping stuff out ie like critical dash items perhaps. > Maybe that's why it's not been done? >

Left turns only :) We had a lot of fun at those tracks, and since it's been such a long time it should be fun to do it again for a day :) We could certainly toss in the Glen and Sonoma though! -Larry "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:52:26 -0500, Larry wrote: >> If any of the old Rascarians are up for it, I think I have enough >> bandwidth >> to host us all for a day of NR2003 fun. If for no other reason, just for >> the old gang to get together again for a bit :) > > That would be fun indeed. Are you thinking about going in circles or do > you have some sports car / transam action in mind? > > I still have a RASCAR forum somewhere, but I guess its usage would kinda > defeat the purpose of breathing new life into RAS or RASCAR for that > matter ;-) > > All the best, > > Uwe > > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

No, I seem to have lost all contacts from RASCAR. [email hidden] Dave "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1FJXi.3234$[email hidden]...

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> Dave, > > You still have my email? If so, email me or send me yours. I'll give you > a call. > > -Larry > > "Dave F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:qg6Xi.3022$[email hidden]... >>>I doubt usnet never dies, because there is no way one person can kill it. >>> >>> Which is exactly the point :) >>> >>> As long as everyone has there Mitch-The-Bitch filters on, it's not so >>> bad around here other than a general aire of bordome about. Hopefully >>> we'll have new things to talk about some day :) >>> >>> -Larry >> >> Hey Larry :-) >> >> Wish we were still racing. I race at RACER and Race 2 Play pretty much >> exclusively now. >> >> I know that "new things" means iRacing, but I dropped out of the beta >> testing.........2 years ago, and at that time a product was supposed to >> be coming soon. :-/ Something isn't right obviously. >> >> Dave >> >

I sold N2003 about 2 years ago. :-( Dave "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2goYi.4337$[email hidden]...

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> Left turns only :) > > We had a lot of fun at those tracks, and since it's been such a long time > it should be fun to do it again for a day :) > > We could certainly toss in the Glen and Sonoma though! > > -Larry > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:52:26 -0500, Larry wrote: >>> If any of the old Rascarians are up for it, I think I have enough >>> bandwidth >>> to host us all for a day of NR2003 fun. If for no other reason, just >>> for >>> the old gang to get together again for a bit :) >> >> That would be fun indeed. Are you thinking about going in circles or do >> you have some sports car / transam action in mind? >> >> I still have a RASCAR forum somewhere, but I guess its usage would kinda >> defeat the purpose of breathing new life into RAS or RASCAR for that >> matter ;-) >> >> All the best, >> >> Uwe >> >> >> -- >> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 >

Larry wrote: > NR2003 fully supports widescreen... Yea, so NR2002 should be able to too as they are based on the same graphics engine. I just can't find a config file option that will give me 1680x1050 in the game's folder.

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> Hi John, > > that's a good question, I'll try it later when I'm at home and have a > look at what resolutions the Installer / config program comes up with. > > All the best, uwe >

OK thanks. Would appreciate that as I don't want to go through a reinstall if it will do nothing for me.

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> Left turns only :) > > We had a lot of fun at those tracks, and since it's been such a long time > it should be fun to do it again for a day :) > > We could certainly toss in the Glen and Sonoma though! > > -Larry >

We could call it Hawaii for all us older folks so we can imagine all the money we are saving.........:-) Ed

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> NR2003 fully supports widescreen... > > -Larry > > "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:472ff064$[email hidden]... > >> Don't forget that GPL was letterboxed to start with though - a simple >> matter of chopping off the top and bottom blacked out bits. To do that >> with NR2003 means chopping stuff out ie like critical dash items perhaps. >> Maybe that's why it's not been done? >> >

Oops - typo. Should be Nr2002.

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:00:52 GMT, Ed Medlin wrote:

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2goYi.4337$[email hidden]... >> Left turns only :) >> >> We had a lot of fun at those tracks, and since it's been such a long time >> it should be fun to do it again for a day :) >> >> We could certainly toss in the Glen and Sonoma though! >> >> -Larry >> > > We could call it Hawaii for all us older folks so we can imagine all the > money we are saving.........:-)

I see you tickled some old lurkers there back into action with your suggestion ;-) Cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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> No, there is no widescreen option in the game but sometimes you can make > older games use a widescreen resolution by hacking an .ini file or such. > I've even seen some hacks for older games that have to edit the hex code > in the exe file to run the game at a widescreen res. I searched for such > info on NR2002 but can't find any so looks like I am SOL. Was hoping > someone here might know how. That's what I get for not buying NR2003 > when I could have. Now no one sells it so can't buy it anyway and I > don't do eBay.

I've got a copy I don't use, wanna buy it?

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> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:00:52 GMT, Ed Medlin wrote: >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:2goYi.4337$[email hidden]... >>> Left turns only :) >>> >>> We had a lot of fun at those tracks, and since it's been such a long >>> time >>> it should be fun to do it again for a day :) >>> >>> We could certainly toss in the Glen and Sonoma though! >>> >>> -Larry >>> >> >> We could call it Hawaii for all us older folks so we can imagine all the >> money we are saving.........:-) > > I see you tickled some old lurkers there back into action with your > suggestion ;-) > > Cheers, uwe >

That was my intentions Uwe........... Damn that was a long time ago........:-) Ed > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Hehe. Sure did :) -Larry "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>> We could call it Hawaii for all us older folks so we can imagine all the >> money we are saving.........:-) > > I see you tickled some old lurkers there back into action with your > suggestion ;-) > > Cheers, uwe > > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

I think I still have the phone bills somewhere! They can easily be mistaken for hospital bills... -Larry "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_9ZYi.15017$[email hidden]...

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> > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:00:52 GMT, Ed Medlin wrote: >>> >>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:2goYi.4337$[email hidden]... >>>> Left turns only :) >>>> >>>> We had a lot of fun at those tracks, and since it's been such a long >>>> time >>>> it should be fun to do it again for a day :) >>>> >>>> We could certainly toss in the Glen and Sonoma though! >>>> >>>> -Larry >>>> >>> >>> We could call it Hawaii for all us older folks so we can imagine all the >>> money we are saving.........:-) >> >> I see you tickled some old lurkers there back into action with your >> suggestion ;-) >> >> Cheers, uwe >> > > That was my intentions Uwe........... Damn that was a long time > ago........:-) > > > Ed >> >> -- >> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aS_Yi.5857$[email hidden]... >I think I still have the phone bills somewhere! They can easily be >mistaken for hospital bills... > > -Larry LOL....you kept those?.......yikes. I got rid of the evidence long ago........:-) Ed

RSC's forum style is recently updated, it might take time to adjust but check it out to see if it is something for you :) All the best, Tim Stelten RaceSimCentral

Those with Wives had no choice :) -larry "Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lbjZi.3315$[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aS_Yi.5857$[email hidden]... >>I think I still have the phone bills somewhere! They can easily be >>mistaken for hospital bills... >> >> -Larry > > LOL....you kept those?.......yikes. I got rid of the evidence long > ago........:-) > > > Ed >

Quite possibly the opposite will happen, that is ~if~ you think the UN has anything to do with it... http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/un_control_internet.htm For those dipshits who cant see what they are after, THE US goes out of its way to promote protect the freedoms given out by the "net" and when they wrestle it away, I guarantee you it will be censored, in the name of politically correct, & praize allah, and all that... usnet my be the only place left when the dipS's get done. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qg6Xi.3022$[email hidden]...

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>I doubt usnet never dies, because there is no way one person can kill it. > > Which is exactly the point :) > > As long as everyone has there Mitch-The-Bitch filters on, it's not so bad > around here other than a general aire of bordome about. Hopefully we'll > have new things to talk about some day :) > > -Larry > > "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IYZWi.41601$[email hidden]... >> Uwe, >> >> Many thanks for your reply - much appreciated.j >> >> Whilst I agree with most of your points (and Andrew's) - especially: >> >>> I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, >>> flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or >>> being able to use the newsreader of my choice >> >> I unforutnately have very good reasons to believe they are in vein :-( >> >> 25 years ago I flicked the 'auto-answer' switch on my 300 baud modem on >> evening and set up a BBS. Soon I was to join Fidonet, a global amateur >> network for email and forums that grew to around 10,000 systems by the >> early 1990s. In 1995-6 the rise of the Internet saw an 90% decline in the >> number of text based Fidonet systems, and the widespread adoption of >> broadband saw the demise of most of the remainder. However, there are >> still some die hards out there, and Fidonet still lives on. It is almost >> a zombie experience. Each week, an autogenerated copy of 'fidonews' the >> official newsletters comes out, mostly with zero human content for that >> week. The official newsletter site www.fidonews.org. hasn't been updated >> for longer than Racing Legends! >> >> I walked away from Fidonet 10 years as I saw the decline become terminal. >> I didn't want to become one of the living dead that couldn't adapt to new >> technology. Yes, the Internet didn't seem to be so friendly and communal, >> but I adapted and didn't look back. I looked to experience the future >> rather than be locked in the past. Now I again have my small groups of >> real friends on Facebook, and enjoy a very rich and rewarding experience >> sharing my life with friends all over the world. >> >> USENET is dying, and its time to move on. Many ISPs are turning off their >> newsgroups servers, and this trend is bound to accelerate now that the >> RIAA is in court trying to shut down usenet.com >> >> http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/10/can_the_riaa_cl.html >> >> I am personally willing to assist in setting up a 'home away from home' >> for R.A.S. on the web, as I wouldn't like to suddenly lose contact with >> the people such as yourselves whose messages I've been enjoying for so >> many years. Let's focus on the experience and the community, not the >> technology platform. >> >> Cheers, >> Tim >> >> p.s. Please contact me eppy a t pobox dotcom if you would like to take up >> my suggestion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> However, >> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:36:42 GMT, Tim Epstein wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> After 10 or so years as a regular reader (if not contributor) on R.A.S, >>>> I >>>> think the time has come to abandon USENET for a web based forum. The >>>> usage >>>> of R.A.S is in decline, and most Internet users these days wouldn't >>>> know >>>> what a newsgroup was. >>>> >>>> I would appreciate some suggestions of where I can find a friendly, >>>> reasonably mature, sim racing forum on the web. I am familiar with >>>> RaceSimCentral, but find the compartmentalised forum structure >>>> frustrating. >>>> >>> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> while I agree that RAS participation has been better in the past, the >>> popularity of "web forums" are a blessing and a curse at the same time. >>> I'm simply tired of wading through millions of bouncing smileys, >>> flamewars, incomprehensible forum layout and non-existent threading, or >>> being able to use the newsreader of my choice. >>> >>> Several good people still lurk here, and whenever I have a question I >>> usually get some helpful and good replies within a couple of days. >>> >>> Maybe you should point other interested simracers here and educate them >>> about usenet, the decentralised structure is a big plus as is the lack >>> of the all powerful mods stroking their egos in several forums (of >>> course, that also has a downside as we've all seen a few times, but >>> that's what killfiles have been invented for). >>> >>> I don't think usenet is going away anytime soon. As they saying goes, >>> the whole internet thing went downhill after they added pictures. ;-) >>> >>> All the best, uwe >>> >>> -- >>> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 >> >