Nascar 3 and Celeron problems...

I know that I've seen some posts regarding problems with N3 running under a Celeron platform. But I've not had any problems at all with my AMD so I didn't really read the solutions. Now my son buys a Celereron 333 Mhz and a Monster 3D card and trys to run Nascar 3. It won't even recognize the Monster 3D. It loads up in D3D and then goes about a half a lap and freezes. (with the sound still playing) I know the Monster is set up ok because his GPL recognizes it. We tried to find some newer drivers for it but the diamondmm site is down. Would new drivers even help? Any solutions on how to get his N3 to recognize his Monster 3D? Thanks in advance... Jim Tester

No probs here with Celeron and Banshee. You might try new reference drivers for Monster card at: www.3dfx.com Alan

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> I know that I've seen some posts regarding problems with N3 running under a > Celeron platform. But I've not had any problems at all with my AMD so I > didn't really read the solutions. > Now my son buys a Celereron 333 Mhz and a Monster 3D card and trys to run > Nascar 3. It won't even recognize the Monster 3D. It loads up in D3D and > then goes about a half a lap and freezes. (with the sound still playing) > I know the Monster is set up ok because his GPL recognizes it. We tried to > find some newer drivers for it but the diamondmm site is down. Would new > drivers even help? > Any solutions on how to get his N3 to recognize his Monster 3D? > Thanks in advance... > Jim Tester

Try the 3Dfx reference drivers http://www.3dfxgamers.com/view.asp?IOID=46 "Jim Tester" wrote

I've had no problems whatsoever running N3/NL on the following system: Celeron 300a overclocked to 450 (4.5 x 100 FSB) 64 MB PC100 RAM Matrox Millenium G200 8MB 3DFX V1000 Voodoo2 12MB PCI ASUS P2B motherboard Windows 98 Both run well (albeit not as graphically pleasing, a cheap GPL-oriented system) on: Pentium II 350 overclocked to 466 (3.5 x 133 FSB) 64MB PC100 RAM Diamond Stealth II S220 <-- Great for GPL and N99, but since N3/NL ditched rendition... :( Abit BH6 Motherboard Windows 98 -- Kirk Lane ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "It goes down the same as a thousand before No one's gettin' smarter, no one's learnin the score The never ending spree of death and *** and hate Is gonna tie your own rope" -'Come Out And Play', The Offspring > I know that I've seen some posts regarding problems with N3 running under a > Celeron platform. But I've not had any problems at all with my AMD so I > didn't really read the solutions. > Now my son buys a Celereron 333 Mhz and a Monster 3D card and trys to run > Nascar 3. It won't even recognize the Monster 3D. It loads up in D3D and > then goes about a half a lap and freezes. (with the sound still playing) > I know the Monster is set up ok because his GPL recognizes it. We tried to > find some newer drivers for it but the diamondmm site is down. Would new > drivers even help? > Any solutions on how to get his N3 to recognize his Monster 3D? > Thanks in advance... > Jim Tester

I honestly can't see how you could blame the celeron platform. I own both an AMD and an Intel system, and the least likely culprit is the celeron. Firslty, is this video card the original Monster 3D i.e. 3dfx voodoo I? If it is I belive have not updated the driver for a while, and the company may have abandoned it at DirectX-5 (last time I checked 8 months ago), and the glide driver may not have been updated. Now with Win 98 you may have installed DirectX-7 already. If you bought a relatively new system, it should have a video card that should be better than the original Monster 3D. What is the main video card? I'm running N3 using glide and a voodoo II, but I need to have powerstrip installed so that I only use the voodoo II for glide, while my other video card for OpenGL and D3D. Dd you try running N3 with the native video card in D3D after? uninstaling the Monster card, installing the latest main video card drivers, and directx?. If that works, then try installing the Monster and its latest drivers (you might want to try 3dfx reference drivers), and reinstall Direct X and see if the game runs under D3D, then test it under Glide. Ex

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>I know that I've seen some posts regarding problems with N3 running under a >Celeron platform. But I've not had any problems at all with my AMD so I >didn't really read the solutions. >Now my son buys a Celereron 333 Mhz and a Monster 3D card and trys to run >Nascar 3. It won't even recognize the Monster 3D. It loads up in D3D and >then goes about a half a lap and freezes. (with the sound still playing) >I know the Monster is set up ok because his GPL recognizes it. We tried to >find some newer drivers for it but the diamondmm site is down. Would new >drivers even help? >Any solutions on how to get his N3 to recognize his Monster 3D? >Thanks in advance... >Jim Tester

I wasn't "blaming" the celeron. I was simply stating the type of processor. In any case...it's all fixed. Due to the advice of the folks on this newsgroup. My son and I downloaded the newest reference drivers for the card...and everything works just fine now. Thanks again all... Jim "Pops" Tester