MS Precision Racing

GP3 should be coming out shortly, til then GP2 should work. Michael K. Grandy Sr Proud Member of Precision Racing Professional Internet Race Team Officially sponsored by ECCI "ECCI - A proud sponsor of the 1998 NROS finals" The CDS4000 was designed for stock car racing... and it delivers Member of OSCAR Freedom Cup Series Member of Nass99 Pro Online Series Nas99 Pro is sponsored by 4CDs.com Member of the National Invitational Series The NIS is sponsored by Thomas Enterprises Hello, I am new to this racing simulation. I want a good F1 game if I feel I will enjoy the simulation scene. I have MS Precision Racing with a Logictech Wingman joystick. This is my first PC game and right now I am unimpressed but it is most likely my lack of experience. I cannot seem to steer with this joystick. Before I invest in a Logitech FF wheel I am wondering if this game is indicative of what the newer games are like. I have tried subtle joystick movements, radical movements but I cannot seem to control the car. So the questions are, is it me, the stick, the game or all 3? Am I beating a dead horse in trying to learn this game? Should I try something more up to date? I would like a good sideways dirt track or rally game also. Suggestions? Thanks, Jack Dannenberg

What are your system specs? Alan

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> Hello, > I am new to this racing simulation. I want a good F1 game if I feel I will > enjoy the simulation scene. I have MS Precision Racing with a Logictech Wingman > joystick. This is my first PC game and right now I am unimpressed but it is > most likely my lack of experience. I cannot seem to steer with this joystick. > Before I invest in a Logitech FF wheel I am wondering if this game is > indicative of what the newer games are like. I have tried subtle joystick > movements, radical movements but I cannot seem to control the car. So the > questions are, is it me, the stick, the game or all 3? Am I beating a dead > horse in trying to learn this game? Should I try something more up to date? I > would like a good sideways dirt track or rally game also. Suggestions? > Thanks, > Jack Dannenberg

Hello, I am new to this racing simulation. I want a good F1 game if I feel I will enjoy the simulation scene. I have MS Precision Racing with a Logictech Wingman joystick. This is my first PC game and right now I am unimpressed but it is most likely my lack of experience. I cannot seem to steer with this joystick. Before I invest in a Logitech FF wheel I am wondering if this game is indicative of what the newer games are like. I have tried subtle joystick movements, radical movements but I cannot seem to control the car. So the questions are, is it me, the stick, the game or all 3? Am I beating a dead horse in trying to learn this game? Should I try something more up to date? I would like a good sideways dirt track or rally game also. Suggestions? Thanks, Jack Dannenberg

MS ***CART*** Precision Racing?!?! If so it sucks. I've owned it since its release. It has a good track editor though (awesome compared to others). My friend has made a few tracks, 2 fantasy (one realistic, one psychotic) and a semi real track (not an actual race). For info on game worth owning. Buy GPL. oh oh... "right now I am unimpressed but it is most likely my lack of experience", don't worry its not your lack of experience, its your amazing deduction (reasoning, whatever...) skills.

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> Hello, > I am new to this racing simulation. I want a good F1 game if I feel I will > enjoy the simulation scene. I have MS Precision Racing with a Logictech Wingman > joystick. This is my first PC game and right now I am unimpressed but it is > most likely my lack of experience. I cannot seem to steer with this joystick. > Before I invest in a Logitech FF wheel I am wondering if this game is > indicative of what the newer games are like. I have tried subtle joystick > movements, radical movements but I cannot seem to control the car. So the > questions are, is it me, the stick, the game or all 3? Am I beating a dead > horse in trying to learn this game? Should I try something more up to date? I > would like a good sideways dirt track or rally game also. Suggestions? > Thanks, > Jack Dannenberg

Hi Alan, This is my work laptop. 166Mhz Pentium, 48MBytes RAM, SVGA, no 3d graphics accelerator, Logitech Wingman joystick, external display. I realize that this is not a good *** system but it is what I have for an intro. If after experimenting I find these racing sims enjoyable I will build the correct system from scratch. Thanks for the feedback. Jack Dannenberg

| Hi Alan, | This is my work laptop. 166Mhz Pentium, 48MBytes RAM, SVGA, no 3d graphics | accelerator, Logitech Wingman joystick, external display. I realize that this | is not a good *** system but it is what I have for an intro. With those specs it looks like you're stuck to older games like Grand Prix 2 and Indy Car 2 - both still good fun though, and both perfectly drivable with joystick. Anyhow leaping head first straight into Grand Prix Legends might scare you off for life! ; ) If after | experimenting I find these racing sims enjoyable I will build the correct | system from scratch. Just remember GPL is a whole different (better!) world from the other sims. Thanks for the feedback. | Jack Dannenberg -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends

Ahhhhhhhhhh I suspected something like that. MS CART PR needs a lot of horsepower under the hood. A 166 and no 3dfx or other 3d accelerator will make MSCPR impossible to drive. Framerates will be slow and control will weave and feel sloppy. You might try and find an old copy of Papyrus IndyCar II (or Sierra/Papyrus CART Racing) or else a copy of Micropose's GP2 (Grand Prix 2). Both of which will be better on your machine. If you want fenders then Papyrus/Sierra Nascar2 or Nascar would also work. On your machine Nascar would work really well but isn't as 'pretty' as Nascar 2. I saw Nascar at Kmart for 4.99 so you wouldn't be out much trying it! ;-) Sim racing requires a smokin' machine. Sims seem to push the envelope. When a new one comes out it tends to push the envelope a little farther. That's why I recommend trying to find some older software that was new around the time your 166 and SVGA were considered 'top shelf'. I don't think you'll find any newer titles that will run well enough on your machine to really get a 'feel' for what it is all about. Alan

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> Hi Alan, > This is my work laptop. 166Mhz Pentium, 48MBytes RAM, SVGA, no 3d graphics > accelerator, Logitech Wingman joystick, external display. I realize that this > is not a good *** system but it is what I have for an intro. If after > experimenting I find these racing sims enjoyable I will build the correct > system from scratch. Thanks for the feedback. > Jack Dannenberg

Jack, MS CPR can be an enjoyable sim. First, the AI leaves a bit to be desired, but the settings can be modifed and somewhat improved. Also, download and apply the 1.01 patch. You will find this information at the Microsoft site link that came with your game. However, racing online at the Zone is good fun, no AI cars...just other racers. Some of the loyal followers have created new or modified tracks, making a huge difference in the overall experience. Try the following site, http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/sctracks/index.html and D/L Long Beach. I have always used a wheel for all my driving sims. As with most sims, frame rate/input control improves with more processer and a high-end graphics card. Most sim racers will recommend GPL, great game, but if you follow the CHAMP car circuit you may want to put a bit more effort into CPR. Hope this helps, Rick > Hello, > I am new to this racing simulation. I want a good F1 game if I feel I will > enjoy the simulation scene. I have MS Precision Racing with a Logictech Wingman > joystick. This is my first PC game and right now I am unimpressed but it is > most likely my lack of experience. I cannot seem to steer with this joystick. > Before I invest in a Logitech FF wheel I am wondering if this game is > indicative of what the newer games are like. I have tried subtle joystick > movements, radical movements but I cannot seem to control the car. So the > questions are, is it me, the stick, the game or all 3? Am I beating a dead > horse in trying to learn this game? Should I try something more up to date? I > would like a good sideways dirt track or rally game also. Suggestions? > Thanks, > Jack Dannenberg

And how do you break without locking up? That ended the game for me. Mea***er

writes <snip> I applied the 1.01 patch way back when I was playing this game and, for the life of me, I couldn't see any noticable difference in gameplay. All my major dislikes about this game were still there, unfortunately.

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>> Hello, >> I am new to this racing simulation. I want a good F1 game if I feel I will >> enjoy the simulation scene. I have MS Precision Racing with a Logictech >Wingman >> joystick. This is my first PC game and right now I am unimpressed but it >is >> most likely my lack of experience. I cannot seem to steer with this >joystick. >> Before I invest in a Logitech FF wheel I am wondering if this game is >> indicative of what the newer games are like. I have tried subtle joystick >> movements, radical movements but I cannot seem to control the car. So the >> questions are, is it me, the stick, the game or all 3? Am I beating a dead >> horse in trying to learn this game? Should I try something more up to >date? I >> would like a good sideways dirt track or rally game also. Suggestions? >> Thanks, >> Jack Dannenberg

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>writes >>Jack, MS CPR can be an enjoyable sim. First, the AI leaves a bit to be >>desired, but the settings can be modifed and somewhat improved. Also, >>download and apply the 1.01 patch. ><snip> >I applied the 1.01 patch way back when I was playing this game and, for >the life of me, I couldn't see any noticable difference in gameplay. >All my major dislikes about this game were still there, unfortunately. >>> Hello, >>> I am new to this racing simulation. I want a good F1 game if I feel I

will >>> enjoy the simulation scene. I have MS Precision Racing with a Logictech >>Wingman >>> joystick. This is my first PC game and right now I am unimpressed but it >>is >>> most likely my lack of experience. I cannot seem to steer with this >>joystick. You need a steering wheel to drive the CPR cars. It was unplayable for me until I got a Nascar Pro wheel, and now I can easily drive all the tracks. CPR has a lot of problems, the worst being the AI, but it does have some good points: 1. The engine sound is second to none. Sounds just like the real thing shifting thru the gears. 2. Sense of speed is better than most sims. Viper Racing, for instance, shows that you're going 170 mph or so, but the background is only zipping by as though you're going 90 mph. In CPR, if the speedo is reading 170 mph, it feels like you're flying. Hot lapping while setup testing is especially fun. 3. With a couple of exceptions, the tracks are generally very good. 1999 CART champion Juan Montoya actually learned many of the tracks by playing CPR before he ever got in a Champ Car. <remove 7of9 for e-mail replies> -- Bill Jones e-mail addresses: (860) 701-1201 WWW: http://pages.cthome.net/billj

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