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10 posts by 8 people · 27 Oct 2003 18:32 UTC - 28 Oct 2003 15:49 UTC

Pvt. 27 Oct 2003 18:32 UTC#50532
Here's a question for ya's. How can someone running a Fixed set up out run everyone else by a full second? We had a two car draft going and we could not catch this guy. He was a full second a head of us and we were not damaged. IS he doing something to the ini file? I know that worked with N4 but thought papy took care of that cheat?
Sting32 27 Oct 2003 21:39 UTC↳ reply to Pvt.#50539
Pvt? I dont know who you are, so dont assume I think your the fastest nor the slower driver... but it is possible he was that much better driver than you? 2nd, if it was his setup, by any chance, he also might know the line or even just be more aware of where the perfect line is. 3rd, if you start out too fast and happy, you burn the tires up a lot faster than those wo can save some tires in the beginning of a run... the post patch readme says so, and every bit of talking to other setup tweakers agree, tire-wear is a huge issue to build setups OR drive a certain way in fixed setup racing. LAST, You running aids now? nowdays I believe aids slow you down a touch. Your milage may vary, but it is a hunch now that is being sort of proven, with fixed setups (not the fast that was given with the game.. but has been noticed with PWF expert sets). Just my observations... Sting32 "Pvt." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Vwdnb.14478$[email hidden]... > Here's a question for ya's. > How can someone running a Fixed set up out run everyone else by a full > second? We had a two car draft going and we could not catch this guy. Hewas > a full second a head of us and we were not damaged. IS he doing somethingto > the ini file? I know that worked with N4 but thought papy took care ofthat > cheat? > >
Yep, Drop the driving aids and try again :-) EL "Pvt." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Vwdnb.14478$[email hidden]... > Here's a question for ya's. > How can someone running a Fixed set up out run everyone else by a full > second? We had a two car draft going and we could not catch this guy. Hewas > a full second a head of us and we were not damaged. IS he doing somethingto > the ini file? I know that worked with N4 but thought papy took care ofthat > cheat? > >
SimRacer 28 Oct 2003 00:27 UTC↳ reply to Pvt.#50547
"Pvt." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Vwdnb.14478$[email hidden]... > Here's a question for ya's. > How can someone running a Fixed set up out run everyone else by a full > second? We had a two car draft going and we could not catch this guy. Hewas > a full second a head of us and we were not damaged. IS he doing somethingto > the ini file? I know that worked with N4 but thought papy took care ofthat > cheat? > > 2 car draft? Sounds like a TallyTona race going on there. I thought NASCAR was at Martinsville last week and Atlanta this week? (sorry, SS races just plain suck, just a mild jab, get out of the SS races and newb/cheater factor will drop exponentially) Yes, people *can* drive better than other people and milk more and faster laps out of a car by driving the *right* line and not burning up their tires. Yes, driving aids will hurt you if you are racing people who can and do drive without them. I guess I am trying to say that I have seen people in above board leagues leave me and the pack behind in fixed <fast> setups, and I have seen myself leave a pack behind in <fast> setup fixed races. It's all in the technique at the particular track. At SS's, a 2 car draft is marginal for running down a single car and won't work if a) either of you have aero damage and b) you aren't tucked absolutely nose to tail, which is inherently dangerous in online racing, but is THE way to draft if you have a partner that you trust and trusts you to run literally rubbing on the rear bumper at speed. Is it possible to cheat? Absolutely. There are ways to cheat that are not 'checked at the Sierra door'. But why would someone cheat at a drafting track? There are a gazzillion SS races up every night so surely cheating to win one has to be a fairly low priority. All one has to do to win a pickup drafting race is Q good and stay away from the wreckers, usually. If *I* were going to cheat, I'd fix tire wear and traction issues at Martinsville, Bristol or the road courses. And of course, I would juice up the traction so I could turn better at the flat tracks, Vegas, Cali, Homestead, Louden, et al. Cheating at a plate track has to be like using a springboard to dunk a basketball, fun the first time, but the lack of challenge makes it pretty boring everytime thereafter IMO.
It's more than likely just driving. I raced a 40 lap fixed setup truck race at Vegas a couple weeks ago and won the race by 5 seconds. I just babied my tires the first 20 laps and used 1st and 2nd places draft to keep in touch. Around the halfway point they started fading and pushing up exiting the corners and I just motored by and steadily pulled away. ------------------------------------------- Thanks, Aaron Markham *RATE MY CAR AT CARDOMAIN.COM* http://www.cardomain.com/id/amarkham *RIP AYRTON SENNA & DALE EARNHARDT* "Pvt." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Vwdnb.14478$[email hidden]... > Here's a question for ya's. > How can someone running a Fixed set up out run everyone else by a full > second? We had a two car draft going and we could not catch this guy. Hewas > a full second a head of us and we were not damaged. IS he doing somethingto > the ini file? I know that worked with N4 but thought papy took care ofthat > cheat? > >
Thanks guys.. tires were the correct answer. I was actually the guy 1 second in front of a texas race and I was kicked out of the server. I just proved to that ahole it all had to do with tire wear. EL, bud... don't think that every one like you uses AIDS.
Nice backtrack... you related to Clinton by chance? "Pvt." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yxknb.13593$[email hidden]... > Thanks guys.. tires were the correct answer. I was actually the guy 1second > in front of a texas race and I was kicked out of the server. I just proved > to that ahole it all had to do with tire wear. > > EL, bud... don't think that every one like you uses AIDS. > >
Pvt. wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> Here's a question for ya's. > How can someone running a Fixed set up out run everyone else by a full > second? We had a two car draft going and we could not catch this guy. He was > a full second a head of us and we were not damaged. IS he doing something to > the ini file? I know that worked with N4 but thought papy took care of that > cheat? > >
Yeah, he is quite clearly a cheat! -- Gerry Aitken© ...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer. - Book of Cyril, chapter 6, verse 16 This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by a fish called Colin.

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