Simple shifter question

should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? // Johan

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? >// Johan I would assign shift-up to the right paddle if i used 'em. :) Skotty Flynn webmaster - http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com "skotty" on WON

Simple answer: Assign it to the pedal you prefer Andre On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? >// Johan

That is indeed the obvious answer :-) Perhaps I should have stated my question differently. Let me try again... Does a 'regular' race car, that uses paddle shifters, usually have the up-shift paddle on the right or the left side, or does this differ per driver/car? // Johan

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> Simple answer: Assign it to the pedal you prefer > Andre > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer > >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? > >// Johan

Yes it does differ per driver/car, but AFAIK most have the up-shift on the right-hand side. regards --

I think I remember an article from a while back stating that its driver preference. -- Ian Parker UKGPL League http://members.xoom.com/ukgpl/index.html http://www.ukgpl.com -- > That is indeed the obvious answer :-) Perhaps I should have stated my > question differently. Let me try again... > Does a 'regular' race car, that uses paddle shifters, usually have the > up-shift paddle on the right or the left side, or does this differ per > driver/car? > // Johan > > Simple answer: Assign it to the pedal you prefer > > Andre > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer > > >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? > > >// Johan

It can be programmed either way in a real F1 car, although most use up shift on the right. However, the real cars don't use paddles but buttons. There is a paddle clutch, but we don't need to worry about that for your purposes. The real answer, as others have already stated, is to use whichever is more comfortable for you. Marc.

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> That is indeed the obvious answer :-) Perhaps I should have stated my > question differently. Let me try again... > Does a 'regular' race car, that uses paddle shifters, usually have the > up-shift paddle on the right or the left side, or does this differ per > driver/car? > // Johan > > Simple answer: Assign it to the pedal you prefer > > Andre > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer > > >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? > > >// Johan

I believe that real life would be the same as sims. The driver can choose and put it on what ever side he prefers. -- Kevin Anderson --------------------------------------------------- DK-Racing #15 K_Anderson ------------------------------------------------- http://www.awtech.net/ http://www.nascar-3.com/ > That is indeed the obvious answer :-) Perhaps I should have stated my > question differently. Let me try again... > Does a 'regular' race car, that uses paddle shifters, usually have the > up-shift paddle on the right or the left side, or does this differ per > driver/car? > // Johan > > Simple answer: Assign it to the pedal you prefer > > Andre > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer > > >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? > > >// Johan

I put the upshift on the right in my "real" racecar because I figured with an H pattern shifter you move it to the right for selecting higher gears. So I use the right for upshift in racing sims also. Lutrell

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>That is indeed the obvious answer :-) Perhaps I should have stated my >question differently. Let me try again... >Does a 'regular' race car, that uses paddle shifters, usually have the >up-shift paddle on the right or the left side, or does this differ per >driver/car? >// Johan >> Simple answer: Assign it to the pedal you prefer >> Andre >> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer >> >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? >> >// Johan

Johan, I believe the correct settings is the right paddle is assigned up shift and the left paddle down shift. Joel Willstien

> However, the real cars don't use paddles but buttons. There > is a paddle clutch, but we don't need to worry about that for your purposes. Excuse me, but the real cars do use paddles....in F1 anyway. The buttons on F1 wheels perform various other functions, but gearchange and clutch are on paddles.

No comment, but I'm very amused about the discussion about this question.... On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? >// Johan -- Uli Winkelmann un sing K?lsche Sick op www.netcologne.de/~nc-winkelul

I haven't been following this, but maybe the person was asking because he'd like to have it setup the same way as real racers do. for example, on my nascar pro, I have shift up (push forward) and shift down (pull back). My friend who races real cars can never drive at my house because apparently in real life, they use the opposite directions. (My way conflicts with the g-forces in the car making it more difficult.) speedracer

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> No comment, but I'm very amused about the discussion about this > question.... > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer > >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? > >// Johan > -- > Uli Winkelmann > un sing K?lsche Sick op www.netcologne.de/~nc-winkelul

Your friend is right, but this is only for a shifter set-up. If he has paddles it doesn't really apply. Thanks for the info though. Mike

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> I haven't been following this, but maybe the person was asking because he'd > like to have it setup the same way as real racers do. > for example, on my nascar pro, I have shift up (push forward) and shift down > (pull back). My friend who races real cars can never drive at my house > because apparently in real life, they use the opposite directions. (My way > conflicts with the g-forces in the car making it more difficult.) > speedracer > > No comment, but I'm very amused about the discussion about this > > question.... > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer > > >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? > > >// Johan > > -- > > Uli Winkelmann > > un sing K?lsche Sick op www.netcologne.de/~nc-winkelul

> I haven't been following this, but maybe the person was asking because he'd > like to have it setup the same way as real racers do. > for example, on my nascar pro, I have shift up (push forward) and shift down > (pull back). My friend who races real cars can never drive at my house > because apparently in real life, they use the opposite directions. (My way > conflicts with the g-forces in the car making it more difficult.) What really amazes me is that newer roadcars with automatic transmissions have also an option to use the shifter as a sequential transmission similar to most racecars. The stupid thing is that you have to push forward to gear up. The resarch must be really really bad to make a solution like this, and the worst this is that many manufacturers have it this way. Plain stupid....

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> speedracer > > No comment, but I'm very amused about the discussion about this > > question.... > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:15:05 +0100, Johan Foederer > > >should I assign shift-up to the left or the right paddle? > > >// Johan > > -- > > Uli Winkelmann > > un sing K?lsche Sick op www.netcologne.de/~nc-winkelul

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Why is it stupid? Have you ever tried pulling on the reins to make a horse go faster <G> Forward for faster forward and back for slower seems logical to me. After all, you push forward on the gas to go faster dontcha :-) MS

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:28:39 -0000, "Mark Seery"

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>> The stupid thing is that you have to push forward to gear up. The >> resarch must be really really bad to make a solution like this, and the >worst >> this is that many manufacturers have it this way. Plain stupid.... >Why is it stupid? >Have you ever tried pulling on the reins to make a horse go faster <G> >Forward for faster forward and back for slower seems logical to me. After >all, you push forward on the gas to go faster dontcha :-) >MS

and you push forward on the brake pedal to go slower To email me remove the "u"s

you're in a car with crazy-ass horsepower screamin' on the acceleration. I don't know how many g's that is pulling everything back into your seat, but its enough to be noticeable :). Now which would you rather be doing? pulling back with this force (ie. the force helping you shift) or fighting it by having to push forward. Now consider the g's encountered under braking with the same argument. that's the reason told to me, but even if that's still wrong, that is the way they do it. back-upshift, forward-downshift speedracer

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> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:28:39 -0000, "Mark Seery" > >> The stupid thing is that you have to push forward to gear up. The > >> resarch must be really really bad to make a solution like this, and the > >worst > >> this is that many manufacturers have it this way. Plain stupid.... > >Why is it stupid? > >Have you ever tried pulling on the reins to make a horse go faster <G> > >Forward for faster forward and back for slower seems logical to me. After > >all, you push forward on the gas to go faster dontcha :-) > >MS > and you push forward on the brake pedal to go slower > To email me remove the "u"s

I'd say... may the force be with you. But I should admit that on my old T2 I also had the shifter set to puch/up and pull/down. // Johan

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> you're in a car with crazy-ass horsepower screamin' on the acceleration. I > don't know how many g's that is pulling everything back into your seat, but > its enough to be noticeable :). Now which would you rather be doing? > pulling back with this force (ie. the force helping you shift) or fighting > it by having to push forward. Now consider the g's encountered under > braking with the same argument. > that's the reason told to me, but even if that's still wrong, that is the > way they do it. back-upshift, forward-downshift > speedracer > > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:28:39 -0000, "Mark Seery" > > >> The stupid thing is that you have to push forward to gear up. The > > >> resarch must be really really bad to make a solution like this, and the > > >worst > > >> this is that many manufacturers have it this way. Plain stupid.... > > >Why is it stupid? > > >Have you ever tried pulling on the reins to make a horse go faster <G> > > >Forward for faster forward and back for slower seems logical to me. After > > >all, you push forward on the gas to go faster dontcha :-) > > >MS > > and you push forward on the brake pedal to go slower > > To email me remove the "u"s

Normally, it's pull to go up, push to go down, but the Volvo BTCC Touring car had it the other way around... Doug

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> I'd say... may the force be with you. > But I should admit that on my old T2 I also had the shifter set to > puch/up and pull/down. > // Johan > > you're in a car with crazy-ass horsepower screamin' on the acceleration. I > > don't know how many g's that is pulling everything back into your seat, but > > its enough to be noticeable :). Now which would you rather be doing? > > pulling back with this force (ie. the force helping you shift) or fighting > > it by having to push forward. Now consider the g's encountered under > > braking with the same argument. > > that's the reason told to me, but even if that's still wrong, that is the > > way they do it. back-upshift, forward-downshift > > speedracer > > > On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:28:39 -0000, "Mark Seery" > > > >> The stupid thing is that you have to push forward to gear up. The > > > >> resarch must be really really bad to make a solution like this, and the > > > >worst > > > >> this is that many manufacturers have it this way. Plain stupid.... > > > >Why is it stupid? > > > >Have you ever tried pulling on the reins to make a horse go faster <G> > > > >Forward for faster forward and back for slower seems logical to me. After > > > >all, you push forward on the gas to go faster dontcha :-) > > > >MS > > > and you push forward on the brake pedal to go slower > > > To email me remove the "u"s

Actually, the real cars do use paddles for gear change. The buttons on F1 wheels perform other functions. Glenn > However, the real cars don't use paddles but buttons. There > is a paddle clutch, but we don't need to worry about that for your purposes.