F1C, what's wrong with the setups?

Guys, Finally I have settled down to get seriously stuck into playing F1C. I've got the game running well, with a decent frame rate in the 70s, yet I'm 5 seconds off the pace, and I know my driving's not that bad! ;-) I simply haven't got the grip of the AI cars, and as I'm starting with the default setup, there must be something set so wrong in them that it's masking the changes I'm making. What are the things that have the biggest effect, and what ball park should I set them to? Thanks. -- R. GPLRank +79.699

I had the same problem 'til I finally found a couple of guides that really helped me out a lot. Now, I can get pole position every race (but tend to either never finish or come in last because I always hit someone else and have to pit too often). Anyways, there are two excellent guides. One is called "F1 Challenge Driving Guide" written by Craig Cookson. Looks like there's an online version here: http://w3.enternet.hu/iroland/html/F1C-DrivingGuide.htm but you can find a pdf file here: http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?s=260b2c5c71b835ba37788411a367af4b&daysprune=&forumid=176 Also, there's a guide called "Happy's Advanced F1 Setup Guide." http://www.kiwisim.net.nz/filemgmt/singlefile.php?lid=15 Print both of 'me out - they make great bathroom reading. I went through and hilighted the main points and sat down and tried 'em all out. The biggest difference you might notice for cornering is the camber settings for your wheels. Give them a more negative camber. Look at the diagram below. Tilting your wheels IN at the top results in negative camber. What this does is force your wheels back down onto the track as you corner, resulting in better grip. 0 CAMBER NEGATIVE CAMBER + |---| - - |---| + /---/ --- | | | | / / \ \ | |-------| | / /--------\ \ | |-------| | / /--------- \ \ |___| |___| /___/ \___\ I usually set my camber at about -4, maybe -4.5 degrees for the front. Not quite that much for the rear. Hope this helps, but get those two guides and you'll be surprised by how much they'll help. "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<bnrag0$m88$[email hidden]>...

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> Guys, > > Finally I have settled down to get seriously stuck into playing F1C. > > I've got the game running well, with a decent frame rate in the 70s, yet I'm > 5 seconds off the pace, and I know my driving's not that bad! ;-) > > I simply haven't got the grip of the AI cars, and as I'm starting with the > default setup, there must be something set so wrong in them that it's > masking the changes I'm making. > > What are the things that have the biggest effect, and what ball park should > I set them to? > > Thanks.

I can send you a setup for the track you are working on now (if I have one ready), and you can use it to compare to the default setup. Also, you need to make sure your wheel is set up correctly. The x axis sensitivity setting makes a big difference. David G Fisher "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bnrag0$m88$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Finally I have settled down to get seriously stuck into playing F1C. > > I've got the game running well, with a decent frame rate in the 70s, yetI'm

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> 5 seconds off the pace, and I know my driving's not that bad! ;-) > > I simply haven't got the grip of the AI cars, and as I'm starting with the > default setup, there must be something set so wrong in them that it's > masking the changes I'm making. > > What are the things that have the biggest effect, and what ball park

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> I set them to? > > Thanks. > -- > R. > GPLRank +79.699 > >

Another thing that helps a lot, and is used by a lot of people, is to use much lower spring rates than the defaults. This gives you more grip during transient handling. A lot of setups I have downloaded are using rates from 70 to 120, almost never higher than that. "B. Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I usually set my camber at about -4, maybe -4.5 degrees for the front. > Not quite that much for the rear.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:17:56 -0500, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Another thing that helps a lot, and is used by a lot of people, is to use >much lower spring rates than the defaults. This gives you more grip during >transient handling. A lot of setups I have downloaded are using rates from >70 to 120, almost never higher than that. The key is to realize the physics are polygon based, and real life values are going to be too stiff when you're dealing with tons of low frequency bumps. I always start with the rear bar/springs at the minimum and adjust the front bar/springs to get the car balance I want. Jason