Updated 3do's for NL cars !

Bonjour ! You will find updated Torino and Superbird bodies at www.theuspits.com (The Pits) in the Stockcar - Nascar Legends section. What I have done : -Lowered and raked each car -Redone the rear window and rear fenders of the Superbird -Adjusted the front grille of the shortrack Torino -New wheels dimensions All damageds parts and the Pacecar are updated and there is no texture distortion. An utility is also available if you want to do it yourself ! Give me some feedback ! Cheers ! Gilles Benoit The Pits - [link lost in import]

There's only one problem. One MAJOR problem. The Superbirds I saw on the web sites weren't Superbirds at all...they were Charger Daytonas. Just like Papy in the Legends game. First of all, I can't believe Papy just copied their Charger Daytonas (and short track Chargers) and then called them Superbirds and Roadrunners (short track). I'm sorry, but putting a Plymouth logo on the bottom of the driver screen does NOT turn a Charger Daytona into a Superbird. Look at all the screen photo shots of Richard Petty's Superbird and then compare those to what is being called a Superbird in the game. I figured if someone was going to say they had updated the Superbird bodies, that they would have in fact got rid of the Charger hood and "scallops" behind the front wheel wells on each side panel and added the Superbird's "scoop" which is located just in front of the rear wheel wells on each side panel. The rear fachia also needs to be converted to Roadrunner/Superbirds very oblong, almost obelisk shaped taillights from the Charger's round ones. Until this is done, no one can say they have updated the Superbirds in the Legends game.

>There's only one problem. One MAJOR problem. The Superbirds I saw on the >web sites weren't Superbirds at all...they were Charger Daytonas. Just like >Papy in the Legends game. First of all, I can't believe Papy just copied >their Charger Daytonas (and short track Chargers) and then called them >Superbirds and Roadrunners (short track). I'm sorry, but putting a Plymouth >logo on the bottom of the driver screen does NOT turn a Charger Daytona into

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>a Superbird. Look at all the screen photo shots of Richard Petty's >Superbird and then compare those to what is being called a Superbird in the >game. I figured if someone was going to say they had updated the Superbird >bodies, that they would have in fact got rid of the Charger hood and >"scallops" behind the front wheel wells on each side panel and added the >Superbird's "scoop" which is located just in front of the rear wheel wells >on each side panel. The rear fachia also needs to be converted to >Roadrunner/Superbirds very oblong, almost obelisk shaped taillights from

the >Charger's round ones. Until this is done, no one can say they have updated >the Superbirds in the Legends game. You are talking about the 'paint' on the car, not the 3do shape, which is what Gilles is talking about. 2 separate things. And yes, we're also fixing the so-called 'Superbirds' by repainting them, Jim K. of IWCCCARS should have some released shortly... Cheers! ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/

I think what is meant is he made it look better...not that he changed the daytona into a superbird. The problem is you can only have one car shape for each type of car (torino for short track and daytona/superbird for super speedways). I could be wrong though. I do think what was done looks good however. Good work! Chris

<snip> > And yes, we're also fixing the so-called 'Superbirds' > by repainting them, Jim K. of IWCCCARS should have some released shortly... > Cheers! ...and along with the updated N2 cars??? WOW! I am sooo e***d. Get with the program, we want N3 and NL cars, not outdated NR1999 and N2 cars.

><snip> >> And yes, we're also fixing the so-called 'Superbirds' >> by repainting them, Jim K. of IWCCCARS should have some released shortly... >> Cheers! >...and along with the updated N2 cars??? WOW! I am sooo e***d. >Get with the program, we want N3 and NL cars, not outdated NR1999 and N2 >cars. DW, why not follow your own advice and 'get with the program'. We were talking about NL cars, not N2. ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com

But...aren't you STILL doing N2 cars?

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> ><snip> > >> And yes, we're also fixing the so-called 'Superbirds' > >> by repainting them, Jim K. of IWCCCARS should have some released > shortly... > >> Cheers! > >...and along with the updated N2 cars??? WOW! I am sooo e***d. > >Get with the program, we want N3 and NL cars, not outdated NR1999 and N2 > >cars. > DW, why not follow your own advice and 'get with the program'. We were > talking about NL cars, > not N2. > ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** > Computer Systems Programmer > USAF Air-Ground Operations School > Hurlburt Field, FL > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/

>But...aren't you STILL doing N2 cars? Uh, yeah, but what does that have to do with this thread? The question was originally that the Charger and Superbird are not different in NL, and the original poster complained that we didn't change that, not realizing that is a paint change, not a 3do change. I said that we were updating the **NASCAR LEGENDS** Superbirds to be correct, and we've done so...that's when you chimed in and told me to 'get with the program'... Just because you don't want to run N2 anymore doesn't mean there isn't anyone else who or NL. We continue to support all racing sims, and still have N1 stuff in our archives. ??Jan Kohl?? **The Pits Performance Team** Computer Systems Programmer USAF Air-Ground Operations School Hurlburt Field, FL Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com/ The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com/

say bud, not only are there a lot of n2 racers still out here, but if anybody needs to get with the program, maybe it's you. why dont *you* hurt that little brain a bit and create some n3 and nl cars. i haven't heard of any of these guys getting paid by the hour or salary for their work. sorry just had to say it. nobody owes you diddley (sorry bo) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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> Uh, yeah, but what does that have to do with this thread? The question > was originally that the Charger and Superbird are not different in NL, and > the original > poster complained that we didn't change that, not realizing that is a paint > change, > not a 3do change. I said that we were updating the **NASCAR LEGENDS** > Superbirds > to be correct, and we've done so...that's when you chimed in and told me to > 'get with > the program'... > Just because you don't want to run N2 anymore doesn't mean there isn't > anyone else who > does. I got emails from people who were happy that we released TPTCC99 and > or NL. We > continue to support all racing sims, and still have N1 stuff in our > archives.

That's the only problem I have with you Jan, you are just too nice to people.... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy