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Terraserver images - Watkins Glen

8 posts by 5 people · 12 Nov 1999 - 16 Nov 1999

Quoted text (10 lines)> I found this one of Watkins Glen... > http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=12&T=1&X=427&Y=5861&Z=18... > I'd love to have a satellite photo of Monza, and of all the GPL tracks for that > matter. > Are there any more? > glen
For all those that asked about the "BOOT", there it is! Unfortunately this map doesn't show the hills :( -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)
David Erb 12 Nov 1999#502967
Interesting images. I see that the track has changed a lot since the GPL time period. The last third from the Speed Trap through the Big Bend to the pit straight has been altered almost beyond recognition. Looks like the pits have moved quite a bit too. When did all those changes happen? David > > I found this one of Watkins Glen... http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=12&T=1&X=427&Y=5861&Z=18...
> Interesting images. I see that the track has changed a lot since the GPL > time period. The last third from the Speed Trap through the Big Bend to the > pit straight has been altered almost beyond recognition. Looks like the pits > have moved quite a bit too. When did all those changes happen? > David 1971. The speed trap strait is still visible when your at the track. It's the back side of the garages. I believe, (if you were at the track today) the big bend is the paved part that curcles the garage. The old track from that point all the way down to today's turn one is still there too, although the whole thing has been paved to almost non recognizable proportions. The Boot was placed there at the same time. The chacain at the end of the back strait is still there as well. October 2, 1948 was the first race at the Glen on a 6.6 mile course. The start was right in the village of Watkins Glen and traveled the 6.6 miles on pavement, stone, and dirt. This also included a rail way track where the cars used to jump. The GP race was eight laps and the formula junior was four laps. The starting grid was decided by way of a lottery instead of a practice qualifying session. frank grizwald won the race. After a number of accidents in 1951, the Race Communications Association was formed... http://members.xoom.com/rca/welcome/welcome.htm 1952, Fred Wacker's Alerd slid into the spectators killing a seven year old and injuring many others. This in it self didn't end the street racing, but matters directly relating to it did. (at least for racing right in town) 1953, A new $32,000 4.6 mile street course was built and paved just a few days before the 1953 race. This track was built just down the road a touch from the current location. 1956, a 2.3 mile (GPL track) $150,000 permanent race course was built. **1957 was the first NASCAR grand national race at this track with Buck Baker's Chevy winning the race. **1961 was the first US Grand Prix at this track with George Constantine in a Ferrari winning the race. 1971, The track was reconfigured to the present day look. Between 71 and today there have been many extras added and taken away. Most notably to me was the chicane between Turn 2&3. I loved watching the cars jump the curbs there :) In the 1980's the McDonalds inner loop was added. since then, other then odd eye candy, nothing has changed with the configuration of the track. -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)
David Erb 12 Nov 1999#502969
Much thanks for this. Using your directions I was able to discern the hint of a shadow of a ghost of the old curcuit layout :) They *did* do a good job of paving over it ,didn't they? :) David (who wishes there were satellite images of all the old courses in additon to WG and Spa)
I think the old pit straight, esses, straight and the loop-chute area are still pretty much intact from the old days. Walking around about 10 years ago, it was still pretty easy to see where the old pits were. Bob
Quoted text (11 lines)> >'67 Glen seems to be totally buried under the grandstands and grass fields > >... > >-- > >Best regards, > I think the old pit straight, esses, straight and the loop-chute area are > still pretty much intact from the old days. Walking around about 10 years > ago, it was still pretty easy to see where the old pits were. > Bob
The Esses all the way through the speed trap is still being used. What got changed is the speed trap was made sharper. The new T1 was moved north east a bit. The new pit strait joined the two together. Plus the track has been made wider. The old Pit turn is still in use as a walk way. And the old chacain is used as an emergency access road. -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

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