GPL: Where's the Castle?

Or perhaps I should say Schloss. I've turned several laps at the 'Ring now, but I've yet to see the castle. Perhaps I am not concentrating enough on the scenery, but the Ferrari is a bit of a handful. Can someone let me know in which section I should pay attention, and to which side of the road? By the way, after reviewing the little mpg people mentioned last week (in-car footage from a 60's vintage F2) I am quite impressed with Papy's work. Another thing from someone who is still relative to the 'Ring. It's very easy to spin in some sections, and lose the orientation for direction. I've driven over a kilometer in the wrong direction, thinking "something is really wrong here" until either the weird clipping gives it away, or I go vaulting off a hill that wasn't there on the last lap! What a great track. Wish I could crack the 9:00 mark. Stephen

<snip> Hi Steve The castle is on the right hand side at the end of the long straight, Here's a link to a view looking back down the straight from on top of the castle. http://home.sol.no/~espenm3/pictures_t11_Anteniusbuche.html What a great Hehe, I thought the same thing several months ago, but i'm now running sub 8:20's. Just keep practicing, the first 50 laps are the hardest !<g> Cheers Phil

It's somewhere to the right (and up!! One hell of a climb on foot!) of the section between St. Antoniusbuche and Tiergarten, but I don't know if you can see it from the track. We didn't go for a lap of the track as my mum thought it too dangerous because of the motorbikes. I regret that to this day, but I was too young to impose my will in this matter. Don't remember seeing it in GPL either BTW. Jan. ---- <snip>

If I remember correctly, the castle is on the right side, at the long straight at the end of the track. But the bushes are in the way to see it from in-car view, try to watch a replay from some different angles... Good luck beating the 9:00 mark, first time I succeeded in this, it gave me a great thrill! Now I'm stuck at 8:41... What was the record again: 7:57 or something like that? AAARRRRGHHHH!!!! Andre

I had read somewhere that Papyrus did put it in. Knowing them, they would do that, and the only time you see it is if you vault over the hedges by accident. Stephen : It's somewhere to the right (and up!! One hell of a climb on foot!) of the : section between St. Antoniusbuche and Tiergarten, but I don't know if you : can see it from the track. We didn't go for a lap of the track as my mum : thought it too dangerous because of the motorbikes. I regret that to this : day, but I was too young to impose my will in this matter. : Don't remember seeing it in GPL either BTW. : Jan. : ---- :> Or perhaps I should say Schloss. I've turned several laps at the 'Ring :> now, but I've yet to see the castle. Perhaps I am not concentrating :> enough on the scenery, but the Ferrari is a bit of a handful. Can someone :> let me know in which section I should pay attention, and to which side of :> the road? :> : <snip>

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> Or perhaps I should say Schloss. I've turned several laps at the 'Ring > now, but I've yet to see the castle. Perhaps I am not concentrating > enough on the scenery, but the Ferrari is a bit of a handful. Can someone > let me know in which section I should pay attention, and to which side of > the road? > By the way, after reviewing the little mpg people mentioned last week > (in-car footage from a 60's vintage F2) I am quite impressed with Papy's > work. > Another thing from someone who is still relative to the 'Ring. It's very > easy to spin in some sections, and lose the orientation for direction. > I've driven over a kilometer in the wrong direction, thinking "something > is really wrong here" until either the weird clipping gives it away, or I > go vaulting off a hill that wasn't there on the last lap! What a great > track. Wish I could crack the 9:00 mark. > Stephen

Here's a screenshot where you can see it (to the right in the pic): http://gpl.gamestats.com/amtracks/nurburgring/nurb9.jpg As others have pointed out it's to the right when going down the final long straight. -- Arne Martin

I think you can see it in the distance from the start of the long straight - just to the right of where the road meets the horizon. regards -- http://ianhill.tripod.com

There are hedges on both sides, but if you keep left all the way, you should get a glimpse of it from***pit view.. In fact I think it is easier to get a glimpse of it than beating the world record (7:57)... ---A---

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> > Or perhaps I should say Schloss. I've turned several laps at the 'Ring > > now, but I've yet to see the castle. Perhaps I am not concentrating > > enough on the scenery, but the Ferrari is a bit of a handful. Can someone > > let me know in which section I should pay attention, and to which side of > > the road? > > By the way, after reviewing the little mpg people mentioned last week > > (in-car footage from a 60's vintage F2) I am quite impressed with Papy's > > work. > > Another thing from someone who is still relative to the 'Ring. It's very > > easy to spin in some sections, and lose the orientation for direction. > > I've driven over a kilometer in the wrong direction, thinking "something > > is really wrong here" until either the weird clipping gives it away, or I > > go vaulting off a hill that wasn't there on the last lap! What a great > > track. Wish I could crack the 9:00 mark. > > Stephen > Here's a screenshot where you can see it (to the right in the pic): > http://gpl.gamestats.com/amtracks/nurburgring/nurb9.jpg > As others have pointed out it's to the right when going down the final > long straight. > -- > Arne Martin

>> Or perhaps I should say Schloss. The proper german term would be "Burgruine" (ruined fortress). And I think all relevant graphics options have to be turned on (track objects, detail level etc.) -- Matthias Flatt

I feel like I have seen it on a different part of the track too (not just the back straight). Or a castle of some sort.

THE great track : ) -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends

| We didn't go for a lap of the track as my mum | thought it too dangerous because of the motorbikes. I regret that to this | day, but I was too young to impose my will in this matter. Save up, go back, drive it. You won't regret it! -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends

:>> Or perhaps I should say Schloss. : The proper german term would be "Burgruine" (ruined fortress). Hey... I learn something new every day! The part of Switzerland I am working in right now is full of old ruins. Now I can correctly identify them. (And I am not being sarcastic - it is nice to pick up new words from all sources). Stephen :>Here's a screenshot where you can see it (to the right in the pic): :>http://gpl.gamestats.com/amtracks/nurburgring/nurb9.jpg :>As others have pointed out it's to the right when going down the final :>long straight. : And I think all relevant graphics options have to be turned on (track : objects, detail level etc.) : -- : Matthias Flatt

hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a couple of internet buddies. Jan. ---- Robin Lord wrote ...

Besides the castle on the long straight, there is another white castle like fortification. It is hard for me to explain where it is since I dont know any of the corners, but the best I can describe it is to the left when you go over a small bridge thingy I am guessing. It is a tight left hand turn with white bariers on either side. Just imagine that you are making your way through the tight track surrounded by bushes on either side. You know the one, with the tight chicanes so to speak. Well, the castle is to the left of the second left hand turn after the series of esses surrounded by the bushes. Hop[e that helps, though it probably doesnt. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

I think you're talking about the building (Hotel?) at the adenau bridge, just before exmulhe maybe? see this pic: http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~injm/fotos/show.htm#nring05 -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends | Besides the castle on the long straight, there is another white castle | like fortification. It is hard for me to explain where it is since I | dont know any of the corners, but the best I can describe it is to the | left when you go over a small bridge thingy I am guessing. It is a | tight left hand turn with white bariers on either side. | | Just imagine that you are making your way through the tight track | surrounded by bushes on either side. You know the one, with the tight | chicanes so to speak. Well, the castle is to the left of the second | left hand turn after the series of esses surrounded by the bushes. | | Hop[e that helps, though it probably doesnt. | | | * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * | The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! |

I have a shot here taken a one of the pre-war german GPs...it shows an Auto Union in the North Curve and, in the background, the castle. So it should be blatantly obvious at that point in the sim. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > Here's a screenshot where you can see it (to the right in the pic): > http://gpl.gamestats.com/amtracks/nurburgring/nurb9.jpg > As others have pointed out it's to the right when going down the final > long straight. > -- > Arne Martin -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

>I think you're talking about the building (Hotel?) at the adenau bridge, >just before exmulhe maybe? >see this pic: http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~injm/fotos/show.htm#nring05 Is this the building that looks as if it's undergoing renovation to be an IHOP? Don McCorkle

> hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a couple of > internet buddies. Hey, we should have a ras (European branch) meeting at the Ring. I'd love to be part of that... (Of course, if some rich guy overseas wants to jump in a plane, he'd be welcome too! ;^) l8er ronny -- "I heard if you play the NT-4.0-CD backwards, you get a satanic message." "That's nothing, if you play it forward, it installs NT-4.0"

> > hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a couple of > > internet buddies. > Hey, we should have a ras (European branch) meeting at the Ring. > I'd love to be part of that... A very good idea! Hehe, you don't have to live overseas, just to come down from the middle part of Norway would be expensive enough :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

Maybe it's the pic but if this is a hotel it's tini small one and if it's suppose to be a castle it's the smallest I've ever seen! What is it really?? Thom_j. > >I think you're talking about the building (Hotel?) at the adenau bridge, > >just before exmulhe maybe? > >see this pic: http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~injm/fotos/show.htm#nring05 > Is this the building that looks as if it's undergoing renovation to be an IHOP? > Don McCorkle

:> > :> > hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a couple of :> > internet buddies. :> :> Hey, we should have a ras (European branch) meeting at the Ring. :> I'd love to be part of that... : A very good idea! It's in the back of my mind as well for next summer. It's but a short drive from where I am in Switzerland. :> :> (Of course, if some rich guy overseas wants to jump in a plane, :> he'd be welcome too! ;^) : Hehe, you don't have to live overseas, just to come down from the middle part : of Norway would be expensive enough :) True. I wanted to visit a friend in Bergen, until I saw the prices. Instead I told her how brilliant the skiing is here until she came to visit me. Stephen

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> :> > > :> > hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a couple of > :> > internet buddies. > :> > :> Hey, we should have a ras (European branch) meeting at the Ring. > :> I'd love to be part of that... > : A very good idea! > It's in the back of my mind as well for next summer. It's but a short > drive from where I am in Switzerland.

well, i have this idea about first get myself a new car (my 21 year old Volvo doesn't do much on the german Autobahn :) and then have a trip around europe to look at old F1-tracks, the ring, spa, zandy and so on. To top it off with the 24h LeMans race would be terrific too :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

It's not that small, adenau is only a small town remember, could maybe an in or a large house? I'll ask on the ringers list. -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends | Maybe it's the pic but if this is a hotel it's tini small one and | if it's suppose to be a castle it's the smallest I've ever seen! | What is it really?? Thom_j. | | | > | > > | > >I think you're talking about the building (Hotel?) at the adenau bridge, | > >just before exmulhe maybe? | > >see this pic: http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~injm/fotos/show.htm#nring05 | > | > Is this the building that looks as if it's undergoing renovation to be an | IHOP? | > | > Don McCorkle | > | |

I've been up foir this for a while! Easter weekend is a good time to go next year as supposedly on easter monday they link the nordschleife to the new gp circuit for the self-drive. -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends | > | > hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a couple of | > internet buddies. | | Hey, we should have a ras (European branch) meeting at the Ring. | I'd love to be part of that... | | (Of course, if some rich guy overseas wants to jump in a plane, | he'd be welcome too! ;^) | | l8er | ronny | | -- | "I heard if you play the NT-4.0-CD backwards, you get a satanic | message." | "That's nothing, if you play it forward, it installs NT-4.0"

Spa is only just down the road from ring (well about 50 km) but every time I've tried to visit it the public roads round the track have been shut as there were race meetings on : ( -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends | | > :> > | > :> > hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a couple of | > :> > internet buddies. | > :> | > :> Hey, we should have a ras (European branch) meeting at the Ring. | > :> I'd love to be part of that... | > : A very good idea! | > | > It's in the back of my mind as well for next summer. It's but a short | > drive from where I am in Switzerland. | | well, i have this idea about first get myself a new car (my 21 year old Volvo | doesn't do much on the german Autobahn :) and then have a trip around europe | to look at old F1-tracks, the ring, spa, zandy and so on. To top it off with | the 24h LeMans race would be terrific too :) | | > | > :> | > :> (Of course, if some rich guy overseas wants to jump in a plane, | > :> he'd be welcome too! ;^) | > | > : Hehe, you don't have to live overseas, just to come down from the middle part | > : of Norway would be expensive enough :) | > | > True. I wanted to visit a friend in Bergen, until I saw the | > prices. Instead I told her how brilliant the skiing is here until she | > came to visit me. | > | > Stephen | > | | -- | Olav K. Malmin | remove spam when replying

Good god man I can see it now in my mind. <BWG> Black eyes, people spitting out teeth, car brake lines being cut with Stanley blades..... MS

You forget that the British GP is staged on eas...... Er....Hey. Great ides <G> MS > I've been up foir this for a while! Easter weekend is a good time to go next > year as supposedly on easter monday they link the nordschleife to the new gp

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> circuit for the self-drive. > -- > Cheers, > Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. > http://www.oppositelock.co.uk > Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends > | > > | > hehe... I will, no worries. Trying to organise a pelgrimage with a > couple of > | > internet buddies. > | > | Hey, we should have a ras (European branch) meeting at the Ring. > | I'd love to be part of that... > | > | (Of course, if some rich guy overseas wants to jump in a plane, > | he'd be welcome too! ;^) > | > | l8er > | ronny > | > | -- > | "I heard if you play the NT-4.0-CD backwards, you get a satanic > | message." > | "That's nothing, if you play it forward, it installs NT-4.0"

Is that before or after you and Asgeir burn a ***y great hole in my lawn ? MS

I have created a cam file that allows you to see the castle from the long straight at Doettinger Hoehe. Let me know if I should mail it to you. You *should* also be able to see the castle BIG in front of you at the Nordkurve, but Papyrus strangely didn't put it in there!! Cheers, -Thorsten Rueter Jan Verschueren schrieb:

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> It's somewhere to the right (and up!! One hell of a climb on foot!) of the > section between St. Antoniusbuche and Tiergarten, but I don't know if you > can see it from the track. We didn't go for a lap of the track as my mum > thought it too dangerous because of the motorbikes. I regret that to this > day, but I was too young to impose my will in this matter. > Don't remember seeing it in GPL either BTW. > Jan. > ---- > > Or perhaps I should say Schloss. I've turned several laps at the 'Ring > > now, but I've yet to see the castle. Perhaps I am not concentrating > > enough on the scenery, but the Ferrari is a bit of a handful. Can someone > > let me know in which section I should pay attention, and to which side of > > the road? > <snip>