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5 posts by 4 people · 07 Nov 1999 - 08 Nov 1999

btgoss 07 Nov 1999#501817
Hello Everyone. I have been playing alot of DTR online. I am a fair racer. Give me a front row start and the race is usually mine, start me in the last spot and I should get into the top five. I'm not the fastest, but I have worked on being smooth and consistent. (Something I thought was real important on the dirt) But I have hit a wall in my preparation for online racing. The AI settings of DTR are all wrong, at least in regards to online practice. We need a BRAIN-DEAD setting for the AI. I'm not sure how this would work, but perhaps someone can re-program the AI to drive like I'm seeing alot of first time DTR drivers. Examples. Making a right hand turn half way down the backstretch. Never touching the brake. Using the car on the outside to ricochet off into another car. All of these wonderful things, that we can experience online, are missing from the stand alone game. Perhaps we can get some relief. (*Note: In about 50% of the online DTR races I've done, everything was great. but that other 50%, wow.... BRAIN FADE was really strong.) Thanks, Brit -- The Artist formerly known as the Mocker
Tim O 07 Nov 1999#501818
Quoted text (7 lines)>racing. The AI settings of DTR are all wrong, at least in regards to online >practice. We need a BRAIN-DEAD setting for the AI. I'm not sure how this >would work, but perhaps someone can re-program the AI to drive like I'm >seeing alot of first time DTR drivers. Examples. Making a right hand turn >half way down the backstretch. Never touching the brake. Using the car on >the outside to ricochet off into another car. All of these wonderful things, >that we can experience online, are missing from the stand alone game.
That was tried with CART:Precision Racing, and people got really pissed off. Of course, in CPR it wasn't an option. I say practice online. Seems easy to find a race at practically anytime, and its more fun anyway. :-) Tim
David Erb 07 Nov 1999#501819
LOL. I hear what you're saying! Lots of pretty rough driving on DTR right now as players try to figure it out. Its not all the fault of the players though: I've seen cars travel the whole length of the straight *backwards* at racing speed. At least thats how they appeared on my front end. I'm assuming that there are some glitches yet to be worked out with the prediction code. One problem could be that most of the races I've seen in the last 2 days were using *no* damage and the Late Modified cars. Inverted starts, powerful cars, novice drivers and no downside for reckless driving seems to be a recipe for pinball. Couple of races that I tryed using full damage and Pro Stock or Stock cars seemed to work out better as races. Hope the full game makes inverted starts an option. Oh yeah, the hosts abilty to boot people needs to be easier :) David > Hello Everyone. I have been playing alot of DTR online. I am a fair racer. > Give me a front row start and the race is usually mine, start me in the last > spot and I should get into the top five. I'm not the fastest, but I have > worked on being smooth and consistent. (Something I thought was real > important on the dirt) But I have hit a wall in my preparation for online > racing. The AI settings of DTR are all wrong, at least in regards to online > practice. We need a BRAIN-DEAD setting for the AI. I'm not sure how this > would work, but perhaps someone can re-program the AI to drive like I'm > seeing alot of first time DTR drivers. Examples. Making a right hand turn > half way down the backstretch. Never touching the brake. Using the car on > the outside to ricochet off into another car. All of these wonderful things,
Quoted text (10 lines)> that we can experience online, are missing from the stand alone game. > Perhaps we can get some relief. > (*Note: In about 50% of the online DTR races I've done, everything was > great. but that other 50%, wow.... BRAIN FADE was really strong.) > Thanks, > Brit > -- > The Artist formerly known as the Mocker
Pray tell me the correct technique then, because I daren't venture online the way I drive DTR now. I'm all over the place... I cannot positively position the car. I sorta have to go where it leads me and I have to wait for it to get away from me to find out what it's gonna do... HELP!! That's just in plain stock BTW... I can't even imagine taking a Pro Stock or a Late Model out. Jan. ----
Tim O 08 Nov 1999#502030
>Pray tell me the correct technique then, because I daren't venture online >the way I drive DTR now. >I'm all over the place... I cannot positively position the car. I sorta have >to go where it leads me and I have to wait for it to get away from me to >find out what it's gonna do... HELP!! Online is a blast. You have to try it! It's probably the fastest way to learn to race. The late models require near-constant small corrections, and it's easy to overdo it. If you're having a problem with weaving back and forth trying to keep from spinning of the corners, you could be over compensating with the steering, or going into the corners too hot. You'll see plenty of guys all over the track in late models racing online, so you don't have much to worry about. I have a Logitech FF wheel, and setting the centering spring very stiff helped me a lot with over-compensating the steering. If you want great practice offline, just force yourself to drive the Zeus at Knocks Hill. After 20 laps in that, you'll be able to drive the Lightning around with the pedal to the floor. :-) I'm no pro myself, but I'm LOVING this game. I got a bunch of mid pack finishes last night and my first win, but had fun the whole time. Tim

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