Movie "Grand Prix"

I finally was able to see the movie, "Grand Prix" with James Garner for the first time tonight. The best race film ever and a must see for owners of Grand Prix Legends. After seeing this movie I appreciate the effort Papyrus put into GPL. In this show they could be at a certain track and after just seeing one corner or straightaway owners of GPL would know what track these drivers were racing at. Papyrus really duplicated these tracks extremely well. I just have to laugh at all the race programs that came out before and after GPL boasting of exact tracts and all. GPL really did it. If anyone has never seen this movie and own GPL or just enjoy racing, it is a must see. I really enjoyed seeing all the race cars that I am now familiar with from the game.

Great movie. Pretty much a soap opera, but the race scenes are absolutely extraordinary. And the sound was incredible! This really gives me a new appreciation for GPL. One question though: What happened to the elevated portion of Monza that was shown in the movie? Was it closed off before '67 or is it just a limitation of the GPL engine? -- -----------------------------------+--------------------------------- ICQ #: 18197225 | http://members.xoom.com/morganv/ -----------------------------------+---------------------------------

DITTO!!! Sal V.

It is a classic that probably won't ever be matched. I can't help but think that the upcoming Sylvester Stallone movie on F1 (out in 2001?) will be a huge letdown, even with the 10s/100s of millions they will spend on it.

I dragged my parents all the way from Anderson to Indianapolis (about 40 mi) so I could see this movie in Cinerama at the Circle Theater, which was the only theater in the state equipped to handle it. It was fantastic, but it's still fantastic on the little screen as well. Even for those who aren't GPL fanatics, it's probably the best racing film of all time and well worth a watch.

> One question though: What happened to the elevated portion of Monza that was > shown in the movie? Was it closed off before '67 or is it just a limitation of > the GPL engine? The last time the banking at Monza was used for a GP was 1961 (somebody correct me if I'm wrong...my memory isn't what it used to be). It most certainly wasn't used in 1967 -- and for the same reason the movie depicts: it was just too rough. To counteract the G-forces of the Monza banking and stop the cars from bottoming out on the seams and ripples (poorly cast concrete), the long-travel suspensions of the late 50s-early 60s had to be snubbed down right to the stops, and the cars were simply unmanageable at speed everywhere else on teh track. The drivers protested long and loud, and threatened to boycott any proposed race at Monza that included the banking. Monza's management, at the urging of the Italian Auto Club, gave in. Frankenheimer thought the banking was just too cool an element to leave out, so he got the weeds growing out of the seams trimmed, and shot some footage on the banks, including, of course, the unfortunate demise of Yves Montand. If you watch closely, you'll see that none of the actual race footage includes the banking -- only the movie cars are on it (and the F2 cars running at reduced speeds didn't have the bottoming problems of F1 cars at full chat). BB

Talking about that movie... Does anyone know if it's also available in PAL? I've only seen it for sale in NTSC. // Johan

To add to your fun some very kind soul made a GPL season for the film 'Grand Prix' you can race against Scott Stoddard, Pete Arron et al. It's great !! Also the British mag Autosport treats the film with real respect, they used to have a series called 'Race of My life' where a driver recounts well you can probably guess.... Anyway one of the series was by Pete Arron on the Italian Grand Prix. The whole thing was totally spot on. Regards Mike

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> I finally was able to see the movie, "Grand Prix" with James Garner for the >first time tonight. The best race film ever and a must see for owners of >Grand Prix Legends. After seeing this movie I appreciate the effort Papyrus >put into GPL. In this show they could be at a certain track and after just >seeing one corner or straightaway owners of GPL would know what track these >drivers were racing at. Papyrus really duplicated these tracks extremely >well. I just have to laugh at all the race programs that came out before and >after GPL boasting of exact tracts and all. GPL really did it. If anyone has >never seen this movie and own GPL or just enjoy racing, it is a must see. I >really enjoyed seeing all the race cars that I am now familiar with from the >game.

It was last used for a GP in 1961, and only used in the movie for extra drama :-) If you can get hold of October's "Motor Sport" magazine somehow, there is an excellent feature on how the banking is today. Very overgrown :-( -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

I've been looking around for a PAL version as well. I gave up and went to Amazon in the end, and got the NTSC version. My VCR (only 100 British Pounds) can cope no problem, most PAL VCRs these days can. However, you also need a TV that can do NTSC playback (its sometimes called PAL60). Unfortunally my own portable is about 10 yrs old and can't. Good job the main widescreen TV in the living room can!!! ;) HMMMMMMMM Buy the widescreen version. VERY TASTY!!!!! Gavin (Now looking for a small widescreen TV for his room to replace his old TV ;) ) www.sharknose.freeserve.co.uk

The banking was last used in 1961. Although Grand Prix was based on 1966, the director used it in the film for dramatic effect EG the flying lesson over the top of the banking into the trees. MS

There are some rumours that the oval track of Monza is going to be demolished. However not everybody have the same opinion, so I think it will be remain in its place just as a "historic" memory of the Parco di Monza. Stefano Serni

> There are some rumours that the oval track of Monza is going to be > demolished. Yes, there's been a "Save The Banking " campaign on for about a year, with petition and fund raisers all over, including the Goodwood Festival. BB

I have for sale, a widescreen VHS copy of "Grand Prix", in excellent condition. $10 shipped in U.S. -- Peace, love and Monkeemobiles, Galley ===>Remove "Spam Jammer" to reply<===

I believe that it may have been 1965, Bart....the last year of the 1.5 litre period. It was used for other types of racing after that year but not for F1. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- > > One question though: What happened to the elevated portion of Monza that was > > shown in the movie? Was it closed off before '67 or is it just a limitation of > > the GPL engine? > The last time the banking at Monza was used for a GP was 1961 (somebody > correct me if I'm wrong...my memory isn't what it used to be). It most > certainly wasn't used in 1967 -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

Lewis, Please don't post anymore about this movie! It just makes me more jealous on you guys at the other side of the ocean: We can't order this movie since it won't work on our PAL VCR's and our TV-stations don't feel like broadcasting it :((((( Jan.

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> I finally was able to see the movie, "Grand Prix" with James Garner for the > first time tonight. The best race film ever and a must see for owners of > Grand Prix Legends. After seeing this movie I appreciate the effort Papyrus > put into GPL. In this show they could be at a certain track and after just > seeing one corner or straightaway owners of GPL would know what track these > drivers were racing at. Papyrus really duplicated these tracks extremely > well. I just have to laugh at all the race programs that came out before and > after GPL boasting of exact tracts and all. GPL really did it. If anyone has > never seen this movie and own GPL or just enjoy racing, it is a must see. I > really enjoyed seeing all the race cars that I am now familiar with from the > game.

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Galley, Sold! But can you email me (my email to you got kicked back to me)? I can't seem to anti-spam your anti-spam address. Don

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Does it help to tell you that I have the widescreen-version taped from TNT Classic Movies, PAL version :) I saw a movie in the DVD shelf called Winning with Paul Newman about the Indy 500 1969 or something. Is it any good ? And Grand Prix on DVD would have been something.

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> One question though: What happened to the elevated portion of Monza that was > shown in the movie? Was it closed off before '67 or is it just a limitation of > the GPL engine? The banking at Monza was last used in F1 in 1961. Frankenheimer just added it for dramatic effect. ***************************************************** David A. Ewing *****************************************************

Does anyone know if Grand Prix is available on DVD? >Lewis, >Please don't post anymore about this movie! It just makes me more jealous on you >guys at the other side of the ocean: We can't order this movie since it won't >work on our PAL VCR's and our TV-stations don't feel like broadcasting it :((((( >Jan. >> I finally was able to see the movie, "Grand Prix" with James Garner for the >> first time tonight. The best race film ever and a must see for owners of >> Grand Prix Legends. After seeing this movie I appreciate the effort Papyrus >> put into GPL. In this show they could be at a certain track and after just >> seeing one corner or straightaway owners of GPL would know what track these >> drivers were racing at. Papyrus really duplicated these tracks extremely >> well. I just have to laugh at all the race programs that came out before and >> after GPL boasting of exact tracts and all. GPL really did it. If anyone has >> never seen this movie and own GPL or just enjoy racing, it is a must see. I >> really enjoyed seeing all the race cars that I am now familiar with from the >> game.

Jan, Frankenheimer made a movie in 1998 called Ronin, available on DVD. It's not a racing flick, it's a spy thriller in the greatest classic form. But it does contain about 20 minutes of the best car scenes I've ever seen. Besides one of the best scripts ever and superb acting, it boasts action scenes shot without the assistance of computer editing. Frankenheimer chose to shoot the chases and high dives and explosions *live* to "heighten the level of reality." Frankenheimer said, "We're really going to raise the bar. So the next time somebody wants to do one of these things, they are going to think twice about it." They did it. They really pulled it off. Could be you'll never see car work like this again. Top notch. Two thumbs up. A jaw dropper. Speed freaks fix. Best 19 bucks I've ever spent. Robert De Niro Jean Reno Natascha McElhone Stellan Skarsgard Sean Bean Jonathan Pryce Music by Elia Cmiral Hope that helps some, Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA > Lewis, > Please don't post anymore about this movie! It just makes me more jealous on you > guys at the other side of the ocean: We can't order this movie since it won't > work on our PAL VCR's and our TV-stations don't feel like broadcasting it :((((( > Jan. > > I finally was able to see the movie, "Grand Prix" with James Garner for the > > first time tonight. The best race film ever and a must see for owners of > > Grand Prix Legends. After seeing this movie I appreciate the effort Papyrus > > put into GPL. In this show they could be at a certain track and after just > > seeing one corner or straightaway owners of GPL would know what track these > > drivers were racing at. Papyrus really duplicated these tracks extremely > > well. I just have to laugh at all the race programs that came out before and > > after GPL boasting of exact tracts and all. GPL really did it. If anyone has > > never seen this movie and own GPL or just enjoy racing, it is a must see. I > > really enjoyed seeing all the race cars that I am now familiar with from the > > game.

Not Yet...Keep an eye out though, it'll be soon. -- don [|]-(_)-[|]

I heard Frankenheimmer say they shot the car chase scenes in Rodin the same way they shot them in GRAND PRIX!!! James Larson

Nope, Bart was right, it was 1961 :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

That movie was by Frankenheimer too? Wow, never noticed that. Indeed one of the best car chases ever filmed!! Andre On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:21:30 -0700, "mark jeangerard" >Jan, Frankenheimer made a movie in 1998 called Ronin, available on DVD. It's >not a racing flick, it's a spy thriller in the greatest classic form. But it >does contain about 20 minutes of the best car scenes I've ever seen. Besides

Marc, thanks for the hint. I must admit I'm a very poor basterd: No DVD either (yet). Is this Ronin-thing also available on video? Jan. J.H.Hovius.vcf < 1K Download

It's been released a couple of months ago Jan. Andre