Nascar Thunder 2004 demo

The belated Nascar Thunder 2004 demo has been released at www.3dgamers.com and probably other mirrors. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:00:53 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote: >The belated Nascar Thunder 2004 demo has been released at >www.3dgamers.com and probably other mirrors. I have played a few races on it, and I have to say I quite like it. It leaves me wishing for a Papy/EA hybrid with NR2003's graphics and sound engine, and NT2003's AI, force feedback and sound samples. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Thanks, worth a try. How is the controller setup? Tim "Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The belated Nascar Thunder 2004 demo has been released at > www.3dgamers.com and probably other mirrors. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

All links are dead. Except BitTorrent, of course, which I won't install. My browser and 3mbit connection can handle a download just fine, thank you :) -Larry "Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The belated Nascar Thunder 2004 demo has been released at > www.3dgamers.com and probably other mirrors. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:13:59 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >All links are dead. Except BitTorrent, of course, which I won't install. Your loss. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:37:06 -0600, "Tim Paullin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Thanks, worth a try. How is the controller setup? >Nothing contentious, it works fine with my Momo racing wheel. FF is better than NR2003 IMO. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

On this day of our lord Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:13:59 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> scribed: >All links are dead. Except BitTorrent, of course, which I won't install. >My browser and 3mbit connection can handle a download just fine, thank you >:) > >-Larry The Florida url worked for me just now but at 30kb/sec on cable it is too slow so dumped it. I'll *never* install that peer to peer crap either.

On this day of our lord Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:17:26 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> scribed: >Your loss. Why? He can always get it later when the traffic is lower. Bittorrent is a compromise to security. You think it;'s smart opening up your PC as a server to other users? I don't. I won't even allow chat programs on my PC for the same reason.

> Why? He can always get it later when the traffic is lower. Bittorrent > is a compromise to security. You think it;'s smart opening up your PC > as a server to other users? I don't. I won't even allow chat programs > on my PC for the same reason. If there's anything on your PC that's so sensitive that you can't afford to compromise it then you're an idiot to connect it to the internet in the first place.

"Richard III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On this day of our lord Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:13:59 -0500, "Larry" > <[email hidden]> scribed: > > >All links are dead. Except BitTorrent, of course, which I won't install. > >My browser and 3mbit connection can handle a download just fine, thankyou

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> >:) > > > >-Larry > > The Florida url worked for me just now but at 30kb/sec on cable it is > too slow so dumped it. I'll *never* install that peer to peer crap > either.

Gee, how about trying the obvious and going to ftp.ea.com? It seems everyone has forgotten the ol' tried and true file transfer protocol. I opened a console window and had it downloaded in no time. Fast and easy and no security problems. Stephen

On this day of our lord Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:35:10 +1000, "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> scribed: >If there's anything on your PC that's so sensitive that you can't afford to >compromise it then you're an idiot to connect it to the internet in the >first place. > No, you are an idiot for using something like Bittorent and thinking you are safe. I have nothing to hide but I don't want my setup ruined and have to do a reinstall because of some trojan placed or other malicious prog placed on my PC. Anyway, I use a mobile rack so can easily lock out one HDD from the internet and allow another one on. I'm just smarter than you. Hehe.

On this day of our lord Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:38:24 +0100, "Stephen F." <[email hidden]> scribed:

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>Gee, how about trying the obvious and going to ftp.ea.com? It seems >everyone has forgotten the ol' tried and true file transfer protocol. I >opened a console window and had it downloaded in no time. Fast and easy and >no security problems. > >Stephen >

Youn using this? ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/easports/demos/thunder2004/ The directory is empty!

> >If there's anything on your PC that's so sensitive that you can't affordto

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> >compromise it then you're an idiot to connect it to the internet in the > >first place. > > > > No, you are an idiot for using something like Bittorent and thinking > you are safe. I have nothing to hide but I don't want my setup ruined > and have to do a reinstall because of some trojan placed or other > malicious prog placed on my PC. Anyway, I use a mobile rack so can > easily lock out one HDD from the internet and allow another one on. > I'm just smarter than you. Hehe.

I realise that I'm taking a slight risk when downloading any software or opening ports on my firewall. I also realise that I'm taking a risk by using Windows and connecting to the internet. However, it's a calculated risk and I don't let paranoia cause me to cringe in fear. It's ok to warn people of the risks but your posts seem to verge on spreading unnecessary fear.

On this day of our lord Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:34:31 +1000, "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> scribed:

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>I realise that I'm taking a slight risk when downloading any software or >opening ports on my firewall. I also realise that I'm taking a risk by >using Windows and connecting to the internet. However, it's a calculated >risk and I don't let paranoia cause me to cringe in fear. It's ok to warn >people of the risks but your posts seem to verge on spreading unnecessary >fear. >

OK, sorry. I will refrain myself.

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> On this day of our lord Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:38:24 +0100, "Stephen F." > <[email hidden]> scribed: > > > >Gee, how about trying the obvious and going to ftp.ea.com? It seems > >everyone has forgotten the ol' tried and true file transfer protocol. I > >opened a console window and had it downloaded in no time. Fast and easy

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> >no security problems. > > > >Stephen > > > > Youn using this? ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/easports/demos/thunder2004/ > > The directory is empty!

Bizarre. It's also now gone from ftp.sunet.se, where I had also seen it. Stephen

On this day of our lord Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:02:35 +0100, "Stephen F." <[email hidden]> scribed: >Bizarre. It's also now gone from ftp.sunet.se, where I had also seen it. > >Stephen > I went to avault.com and they said they pulled the demo by request from EA. But maybe that was an older version? Doesn't matter now as I went out and bought the game from EB yesterday. Seems decent and I like the career mode. EA added a career mode to NHL2004 this year too which I also like because it adds another dimensionn to the game. Just wish they would put in a save mode because I usually end up crashing before I can finish the full race. Thunder 2004 looks real good to me so far and is a bargain at $49.99 CAD, but I can't find a replay mode. Maybe I missed it but it looks like there isn't one. Graphics are more gritty than the Papyrus sims which I actually prefer but looks like I need to turn on FSAA even at 1280x1024 res.

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:40:48 GMT, Richard III <[email hidden]> wrote: >Maybe I missed it but it looks like there isn't one. Graphics are more >gritty than the Papyrus sims which I actually prefer but looks like I >need to turn on FSAA even at 1280x1024 res. Unfortunately (from what I have seen in the demo) it looks like it needs FSAA even after you have turned it on! There is something odd with that game. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

On this day of our lord Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:46:56 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> scribed: >Unfortunately (from what I have seen in the demo) it looks like it >needs FSAA even after you have turned it on! There is something odd >with that game. Oh well, it looks decent and runs well with a full pack at 1280x1024 on my P4 1.8ghz cpu and R9800pro. Edges are a bit jagged though and that is somethig they should improve in the next version. My prediction is that ISI/EA will keep improving this series until it is better than the Papyrus series. Already the career mode makes it more exciting and fun than the Papy series for me.

"Richard III" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Thunder 2004 looks real good to me > so far and is a bargain at $49.99 CAD, but I can't find a replay mode. > Maybe I missed it but it looks like there isn't one. There is . . . but you have to turn in on in the options menu. Elrikk

On this day of our lord Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:38:33 -0500, "elrikk" <[email hidden]> scribed: >There is . . . but you have to turn in on in the options menu. > >Elrikk > OK, thx.

I don't see it that way :) -Larry "Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:13:59 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >All links are dead. Except BitTorrent, of course, which I won't install. > > Your loss. > -- > Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Hmmm.... I guess 100 million corporate PC users are just plain wrong, and their admins are idiots then. -Larry "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bodf7e$1dd0rm$[email hidden]... > > Why? He can always get it later when the traffic is lower. Bittorrent > > is a compromise to security. You think it;'s smart opening up your PC > > as a server to other users? I don't. I won't even allow chat programs > > on my PC for the same reason. > > If there's anything on your PC that's so sensitive that you can't affordto > compromise it then you're an idiot to connect it to the internet in the > first place. > >

I dunno... Maybe because ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/easports/demos/thunder2004/ is empty ? -Larry "Stephen F." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3faa40cf$[email hidden]... > Gee, how about trying the obvious and going to ftp.ea.com? It seems > everyone has forgotten the ol' tried and true file transfer protocol. I > opened a console window and had it downloaded in no time. Fast and easyand > no security problems. > > Stephen > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:o8vrb.1771$5e.956@lakeread06: > Hmmm.... I guess 100 million corporate PC users are just plain wrong, and > their admins are idiots then. > > -Larry > to some extent yes...the needs of a corparate pc user are far different from an online gamer. About a year or so ago, an IT guy was going nuts cuz some folks here, me included, recomended fixing the swap file rather than let windows manage it. In a corporate world, his posisition was sound, but gamers often push the envelope and work/play outside the 'safe' conditions an IT type person would prefer. dave henrie

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> to some extent yes...the needs of a corparate pc user are far different >from an online gamer. About a year or so ago, an IT guy was going nuts cuz >some folks here, me included, recomended fixing the swap file rather than >let windows manage it. In a corporate world, his posisition was sound, but >gamers often push the envelope and work/play outside the 'safe' conditions >an IT type person would prefer. >dave henrie > >

Yea, but he is right. There is very little to be gained by making the swap file fixed. I've tried the swap file in every possible configuration and have just seen no benefit to making it fixed in any games. Sometimes gamers take the tweaking route too seriously.

> Yea, but he is right. There is very little to be gained by making the swap > file fixed. I've tried the swap file in every possible configuration and > have just seen no benefit to making it fixed in any games. Sometimesgamers > take the tweaking route too seriously. Yes, it's a carry-over from the old Win95 days where people were trying to play games with 16MB of RAM and sometimes tweaking the swap file had a (barely) noticeable effect. On today's PCs it's a redundant tweak.

On , "Steve Simpson" <[email hidden]> typed >Yes, it's a carry-over from the old Win95 days where people were trying to >play games with 16MB of RAM and sometimes tweaking the swap file had a >(barely) noticeable effect. On today's PCs it's a redundant tweak. > I still see some people recommend old tweaks that are just bad advice for any PC running Win98 and up. Like 'conservativeswapfile=1'.