Yeah! Finnish motorsport rules!!!!!!!!!
Flame warSpoiler row over Hakkinen's 1999 world championship
A post titled with Mika Hakkinen's title-winning result angered fans who had taped the race and wanted no spoilers. A long argument followed between those demanding SPOILER tags and those saying anyone avoiding results should stay off the newsgroup, with insults on both sides.
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I'm not a huge F1 fan but try to watch the races each week. I can tell from
what I've watched "crying Finn" fits him perfectly!
Gary
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> Yeah, the "crying Finn" is World-Champion! > Cheers > Kalle > > Yeah! Finnish motorsport rules!!!!!!!!!Thanks very much you ***ing idiot.
There i no need for me to watch the video now that I know the score is
there.
Jeez...after staying away from the radio all morning. There is always some
*** who doesn't know how to use a spoiler in the header!!!
Mark
Thanks... I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.... Gonna be alot more
fun now.
yea, and if that dope, coulthard could have stayed on the track, they would've
won the manufacturers championship as well.
what a moron.
Rik Anthrax
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"trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"
Shows ya that morons are world wide. :)
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:28:13 -0000, "Mark Seery"
>There i no need for me to watch the video now that I know the score is
>there.
>Jeez...after staying away from the radio all morning. There is always some
>*** who doesn't know how to use a spoiler in the header!!!
FFS, if you've stayed away from the radio why did you switch on your
PC and come online, especially here?! There's ALWAYS someone who posts
the results, especially in a motorsport group, so at least half of
that "***" award must be claimed by yourself for screwing it up for
yourself.
Cheers!
John
That's right!
Damn we're proud of him.
This is for all of you who feel passion for what you're doing :
Our greatest glory is not in never falling
but in rising every time we fall.
- Confucius
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15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away
- Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
The general convention is to put the word "SPOILER" in the heading as well
you know John, so why are you attacking me with your flames? Had one beer
too many last night perhaps? Maybe it's the lack of sleep that is making you
grouchy!
Maybe next time, I'll not bother going for a sunday morning walk in the park
with my dog either, just in case I run into a bunch of people sitting on the
park bench, celebrating the win with a bottle of cider!
>That's right!
>Damn we're proud of him.
As well you should be. I'm a Brit, and Hakk is my fave. I love his sense
of humour, his fallability, his humility, and his ability to cope with
pressure when it -really- counts. Winning the championship in the final
round from behind. Schuey ever done that?
Don't like DC, can't stand Irv, but was overjoyed Herbert came goos towards
the end of this season.
Hoping my fave rally Driver can complete his foursome,
Mark
Reading, UK
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> Thanks very much you ***ing idiot. > There i no need for me to watch the video now that I know the score is > there. > Jeez...after staying away from the radio all morning. There is always some > *** who doesn't know how to use a spoiler in the header!!! > Mark > > Yeah! Finnish motorsport rules!!!!!!!!!If you guys are that concerned about hearing results DON'T even get on the
computer or watch TV or listen to the radio. DUH, use some common sense.
You know guys post spoiler stuff EVERY WEEK in NON spoiler headers. Why
would it be any different now?
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>> > Yeah! Finnish motorsport rules!!!!!!!!!
> I usually choose my words more carefully,but I too recorded the race in
>the early morning hours and planned on watching it this evening after the
>Cart race. But now thanks to this dumb ass,there is no reason to. IN THE
>FUTURE,USE THE WORDS: F1 SPOILER.
> And the last time I looked,this was R.A.S.
> Again,thanks for spoiling it for the rest of us. I only hope one day we
>can return the favor.
>Joel Willstein
f you guys are that concerned about hearing results DON'T even get on the
computer or watch TV or listen to the radio. DUH, use some common sense.
You know guys post spoiler stuff EVERY WEEK in NON spoiler headers. Why
would it be any different now?
No, they want to be morons and get online anyway so they can complain about
something. give me an f'ing break.
Rik Anthrax
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"trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?"
Do you have no consideration for others?
Wake up, the world does not revolve around yourself
The tiniest amount of thoughtfulness and you would not have ruined the GP
for the poor guys who had to work when the GP was on live.
Writing F1 Spoiler in the header surely would not have been a hard thing to
do?
LOL, You guys crack me up. You KNOW guys do this every week, and still come
here. HELLO anyone home! I'm just saying IF it was THAT important you
shouldn't even take the chance reading News Groups.
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>Do you have no consideration for others?
>Wake up, the world does not revolve around yourself
>The tiniest amount of thoughtfulness and you would not have ruined the GP
>for the poor guys who had to work when the GP was on live.
>Writing F1 Spoiler in the header surely would not have been a hard thing to
>do?
Have to agree. I got in this morning after a long, hard night at work (do
they make any other kind?), collapsed in front of the TV while the
kettle boiled, turned the TV on without thinking...and there was the end
of ITV's live coverage. What I saw straight away was three drivers
sat at a table being interviewed... told me everything I didn't want to
know in an instant!
No-one to blame but myself :-)
Andrew McP
On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:16:15 -0000, "Mark Seery"
>The general convention is to put the word "SPOILER" in the heading as well
>you know John, so why are you attacking me with your flames? Had one beer
>too many last night perhaps? Maybe it's the lack of sleep that is making you
>grouchy!
Let's be clear here Mark - YOU flamed, I only pointed out how daft it
was to come online before knowing the result (call it obvious, call it
common-sense..). Yes, people in a Utopian world would put "SPOILER",
but in _this_ world they don't, so you make your own choices.
Maybe - if that's the kind of area you live in , I don't know. I do
occupy the same Usenet as you however, and I wouldn't frequent r.a.s.
if I didn't want to know a result.
Cheers!
John
On the contrary. Living in close proximity (Within 10 miles of Woking), I
happen to be rather happy to see the "Mac" men do their stuff again. We had
a great time last year watching Mikka and DC blast their mounts around the
streets of the town in celebration at the end of the season. Watching them
jump the traffic lights was quite amusing. If there is an Irish connection
(and as it happens, I do have emerald Isle *** within me) My allegiances
would lie with Mr Jordan and not some beligerant upstart who got lucky and
benefited from another drivers misfortune!
As far as individual drivers are concerned, I'm afraid to say that I'm
pretty indifferent to the majority of them these days. They simply come and
go, failing to inspire me in the same manner that their forerunners did! I
guess that some of these sanitised corporate drivers will be remembered and
revered by you and your kind for xenophobic reasons.
Still, as has been pointed out to me in no uncertain terms by others who
have posted in this thread, It was nieve of me to think that people would
follow honourable conventions such as using spoilers in their headers. I
concede this point and a lesson has been learned. I suppose that as long as
Usenet exists, there will always be ignorant ***s fully able, willing and
eager to***things up for others.
MS
(A little wiser and more cynical about human nature and trust in others)
> > Thanks very much you ***ing idiot.
> You *** face are just pissed off because Irvine did not win!!!
Arrgh Shurduppayah Mouth you big Kent!!
MS ;-)
Oh, come on, let Mark release his steam...
He was really disappointed, right, and felt extremely bad about it. Why the hell
shouldn he be allowed to post a flame?
I'd done the same thing.
---Asgeir---
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> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:16:15 -0000, "Mark Seery" > >The general convention is to put the word "SPOILER" in the heading as well > >you know John, so why are you attacking me with your flames? Had one beer > >too many last night perhaps? Maybe it's the lack of sleep that is making you > >grouchy! > Let's be clear here Mark - YOU flamed, I only pointed out how daft it > was to come online before knowing the result (call it obvious, call it > common-sense..). Yes, people in a Utopian world would put "SPOILER", > but in _this_ world they don't, so you make your own choices. > >Maybe next time, I'll not bother going for a sunday morning walk in the park > >with my dog either, just in case I run into a bunch of people sitting on the > >park bench, celebrating the win with a bottle of cider! > Maybe - if that's the kind of area you live in , I don't know. I do > occupy the same Usenet as you however, and I wouldn't frequent r.a.s. > if I didn't want to know a result. > Cheers! > Johncommon-sense rules !!!!!!
Datoner :)
> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:16:15 -0000, "Mark Seery"
> >The general convention is to put the word "SPOILER" in the heading as well
> >you know John, so why are you attacking me with your flames? Had one beer
> >too many last night perhaps? Maybe it's the lack of sleep that is making you
park
> >with my dog either, just in case I run into a bunch of people sitting on the
Quoted text (8 lines)
> >grouchy! > Let's be clear here Mark - YOU flamed, I only pointed out how daft it > was to come online before knowing the result (call it obvious, call it > common-sense..). Yes, people in a Utopian world would put "SPOILER", > but in _this_ world they don't, so you make your own choices. > >Maybe next time, I'll not bother going for a sunday morning walk in theQuoted text (8 lines)
> >park bench, celebrating the win with a bottle of cider! > Maybe - if that's the kind of area you live in , I don't know. I do > occupy the same Usenet as you however, and I wouldn't frequent r.a.s. > if I didn't want to know a result. > Cheers! > JohnYou *** face are just pissed off because Irvine did not win!!!
Will you morons please stop posting race results before a huge chunk of the
readers here have had a chance to watch the race for themselves. How many
times does this have to be said??????? Think about someone other than
yourself just for a few moments.
Marc.
Geez! Whatta buncha crybabies! Get a damned life and stop putting all
of your emotions and energy into watching races on TV, then flaming
anybody who completely unintentionally gave away the "secret"! So
Lauri didn't know or care to put SPOILER in the subject.... Anybody
going into one of these newsgroups should be aware that it's like
playing in traffic, and not everyone will be driving with the same
rules in mind.
Also, if the only reason you watch F1 races is to see who won, and get
mad and refuse to watch if you already know the winner, why the hell do
you pay any attention to racing at all? Just go see your bookie and
then wait for the result, win or lose. For that matter (tongue in
cheek here) just watch to see who is leading after the first few
corners, and you will usually know who wins.
Lighten up, please......
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Oh man, give it a rest already.
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Antti Markus Peteri
15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away
- Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Totally agree. This guy ruined my day....
Karl
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:23:08 GMT, "Marc Collins"
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>Will you morons please stop posting race results before a huge chunk of the >readers here have had a chance to watch the race for themselves. How many >times does this have to be said??????? Think about someone other than >yourself just for a few moments. >Marc. >> Yeah! Finnish motorsport rules!!!!!!!!!I agree with you, I don't think it's fair to post this kind of stuff on this
NG. Because if you wanted to know who won, all you have to do is check the
F1 internet web sites.
But, you have to take some of the blame yourself, I live in the US (tape
delay 13 of the 16 races), and I don't get on to this newsgroup until after
the race, because of stuff like this.
Aah, you're just pissed off because the mighty Bromley beat Aldershot
last week :-)
(private joke)
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Cheers!
Graeme Nash
PS I agree - putting "spoiler" in the header should be a common courtesy even if
perhaps people shouldn't check usenet until after the race...
<cough>idiot<cough>
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Cheers!
Graeme Nash
And you are a bit late in the day buddy. read the rest of the thread
MS
> > Thanks very much you ***ing idiot.
> > There i no need for me to watch the video now that I know the score is
> > there.
> > Jeez...after staying away from the radio all morning. There is always some
> > *** who doesn't know how to use a spoiler in the header!!!
> Well, you can't be too bright yourself, if you read this group
> expecting not to get any info regarding the F1 championship:)
> Tuffe
;-))
MS
Exactly... you don't want to know --> don't come here.
Jan./ me? -I don't care. I do not watch racing to see "my favourite" win.
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I don't take any blame because I now do the same thing you do--I avoid
reading r.a.s. posts until after I have watched the race. It doesn't change
the fact that it is inconsiderate to post results in the header of a
message.
Marc.
> Thanks very much you ***ing idiot.
> There i no need for me to watch the video now that I know the score is
> there.
> Jeez...after staying away from the radio all morning. There is always some
> *** who doesn't know how to use a spoiler in the header!!!
Well, you can't be too bright yourself, if you read this group
expecting not to get any info regarding the F1 championship:)
Tuffe
Well what kind of moron reads these NG's, knowing full well
that some *** will post the results? Duh. Your reply suggests
that you are aware that this happens, yet you read the NG.
Duh again.
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All-time favourite Bromley chants #16 :
"Kent!" <clap clap clap> "Kent!" <clap clap clap> "Kent!"
etc :-)
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Cheers!
Graeme Nash
On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:43:27 +0000, Graeme Nash
>"Kent!" <clap clap clap> "Kent!" <clap clap clap> "Kent!"
Is it really "kEnt" they're chanting...?
Cheers!
John
Any serious fan like myself will also be seen at historic racing events,
club meetings, local motorcross meetings as well as the bigger meetings, in
sun rain or hail.
I for one am not an ambulance driver but there was another reason why I was
unable to watch the race live. I won't say why for I do not feel the need to
justify myself to people who make assumptions without enquiring as to real
facts.
why would they be on a newsgroup when they could have been
Erm. Howabout this one input --->...computing.....computing----> output
Some of us have families whose members share common interests and do things
like watch videos together as a family at a mutually convenient time to all
on a sunday afternoon. It's quite fun to share experiences with the kids.
Like what? Things not fitting in with your blinkered vision and train of
thought perhaps?
MS
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> Dave Wilson > > > Will you morons please stop posting race results before a huge > chunk of > > the > > > readers here have had a chance to watch the race for themselves. > How many > > > times does this have to be said??????? Think about someone other > than > > > yourself just for a few moments. > > Well what kind of moron reads these NG's, knowing full well > > that some *** will post the results? Duh. Your reply suggests > > that you are aware that this happens, yet you read the NG. > > Duh again. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.Any SERIOUS fan stayed up and watched the race live. If a person
absolutely couldn't watch it live (say, an ambulance driver on the late
shift), why would they be on a newsgroup when they could have been
watching their tape? Something does not compute.
Dave Wilson
> > Will you morons please stop posting race results before a huge chunk of
> the
> > readers here have had a chance to watch the race for themselves. How many
> > times does this have to be said??????? Think about someone other than
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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> > yourself just for a few moments. > Well what kind of moron reads these NG's, knowing full well > that some *** will post the results? Duh. Your reply suggests > that you are aware that this happens, yet you read the NG. > Duh again.Hey Mark I had a blinkered vision last night but it was do to the amount of
VOJ...
Anyway,
There will always be one to break the news first, thus thinking that his
d'man you know...
No need to get mad each time coz you'd be a mean machine 7 months a year....
Cheers buddy,
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> > Any SERIOUS fan stayed up and watched the race live. If a person
> > absolutely couldn't watch it live (say, an ambulance driver on the late
> > shift)
> Any serious fan like myself will also be seen at historic racing events,
> club meetings, local motorcross meetings as well as the bigger meetings,
in
> sun rain or hail.
> I for one am not an ambulance driver but there was another reason why I
was
> unable to watch the race live. I won't say why for I do not feel the need
to
> justify myself to people who make assumptions without enquiring as to real
> facts.
> why would they be on a newsgroup when they could have been
> > watching their tape?
> Erm. Howabout this one input --->...computing.....computing----> output
> Some of us have families whose members share common interests and do
things
> like watch videos together as a family at a mutually convenient time to
all
> on a sunday afternoon. It's quite fun to share experiences with the kids.
> > Something does not compute.
> Like what? Things not fitting in with your blinkered vision and train of
> thought perhaps?
> MS
Yeah yeah......
What sort of man has to water his vodka down with that insipid stuff Oli <G>
Cheers mate
Mark
> Hey Mark I had a blinkered vision last night but it was do to the amount of
> VOJ...
> Anyway,
> There will always be one to break the news first, thus thinking that his
> d'man you know...
> No need to get mad each time coz you'd be a mean machine 7 months a year....
late
need
> to
> > justify myself to people who make assumptions without enquiring as to real
kids.
> > > Something does not compute.
> > Like what? Things not fitting in with your blinkered vision and train of
> > thought perhaps?
> > MS
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> Cheers buddy, > -- > Oliver Nikolic > DP-MAX Computers > http://www.dp-max.co.yu/ > BeoRocket Racing Team (retired) > http://www.beorocket.co.yu/ > > > Any SERIOUS fan stayed up and watched the race live. If a person > > > absolutely couldn't watch it live (say, an ambulance driver on theQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > shift) > > Any serious fan like myself will also be seen at historic racing events, > > club meetings, local motorcross meetings as well as the bigger meetings, > in > > sun rain or hail. > > I for one am not an ambulance driver but there was another reason why I > was > > unable to watch the race live. I won't say why for I do not feel theQuoted text (11 lines)
> > facts. > > why would they be on a newsgroup when they could have been > > > watching their tape? > > Erm. Howabout this one input --->...computing.....computing----> output > > Some of us have families whose members share common interests and do > things > > like watch videos together as a family at a mutually convenient time to > all > > on a sunday afternoon. It's quite fun to share experiences with the6'7" 220 '87-'89 B-Ball National Team starter...
Then again,
I get I shitfaced much faster when doing strait V's plus I like it...
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Oliver Nikolic
DP-MAX Computers
http://www.dp-max.co.yu/
BeoRocket Racing Team (retired)
http://www.beorocket.co.yu/
I dont want to add to the argument but you should have guessed that
someone would post the results, or comment on the race. I didnt watch
the race cause here in the US the coverage bows donkey ear. I saw it on
Tuesday afternoon, and I specifically did not visit any racing websites
or NGs for fear of getting the results.
But I did get the results before watching the race... who knew
northernlight.com )my start page) would post the results. Oh well, at
least I knoew enough to stay away from auto racing news groups.
You should have known better.
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