NfS: Underground - No PU, more like pee-yew

Has anybody tried the NfS: Underground demo that's been floating around? The graphics are spectacular (the sound is pretty good, too), even if the tuner mods are about as tasteful as Liberace's last Eldo. I was immediately put off by the controller routines: impossible to select and calibrate, and the steering-lag rates right up there with a curved-dash Oldsmobile. The physics model (or lack of it) is a complete joke; why is it that each succesive iteration of the franchise (this is actually NfS7) is worse than the one before? That said, the game play is fun--if moronic--especially the drag race (no quarter-mile here; it slices thru about a mile of downtown traffic). It owes more to 2Fast 2Furious than Gran Turismo 3...which is probably a mistake. Speaking of which, I see there's a book about it ("The Cars of Gran Turismo") in the latest issue of the Motorbooks International catalog. I dunno abt. you, but I suspect there's more action in the book than any racing game from EA. --Steve Smith

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:31:34 GMT, "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Has anybody tried the NfS: Underground demo that's been floating around? Nice eye candy, shame they forgot about the gameplay and physics. NFS used to be fun back in the day, but it is just turning into a crappy arcade experience now. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

In article <[email hidden]>, spamtrap@localhost says... > Nice eye candy, shame they forgot about the gameplay and physics. NFS > used to be fun back in the day, but it is just turning into a crappy > arcade experience now. > Yep, it's a shame what has become of NFS. I remember seeing an article about the original game in Road and Track a few months before it came out (R/T sponsored the original in case you don't remember,) and I couldn't wait til it came out. I preordered it as soon as I could and once I got it, I was obsessed. The physics were excellent (for its time -- 1995 or so?) the sounds were excellent, the car models were great. The whole game was fantastic. NFS II was good but more arcadish, and it's gone downhill from there. NFS:PU was a bright spot but the others just haven't lived up to the standard set by the original. -- __________________________ Todd Walker http://www.toddwalker.net __________________________

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> On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:31:34 GMT, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Has anybody tried the NfS: Underground demo that's been floating around? > > Nice eye candy, shame they forgot about the gameplay and physics. NFS > used to be fun back in the day, but it is just turning into a crappy > arcade experience now.

well, the PC traditionally lacks arcade style games so this might fit the bill for some people I love the eye candy in this game the motion blur when using nitro's is pretty spectacular :)

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:49:04 +0100, "JumpKick" <[email hidden]> wrote: >well, the PC traditionally lacks arcade style games so this might fit the >bill for some people >Don't get me wrong, I am not a sim snob, I am not averse to the occasional arcade style game, but I didn't find anthing fun with this demo. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Well i just tried the demo and I think its brilliant, reminds me alot of the impression I had when I first loaded up Gran Turismo on the PSX. A racer with superb potential this one.

yer an idiot "cronik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well i just tried the demo and I think its brilliant, reminds me alot > of the impression I had when I first loaded up Gran Turismo on the > PSX. > > A racer with superb potential this one.

On 7 Nov 2003 15:45:57 -0800, [email hidden] (cronik) wrote: >Well i just tried the demo and I think its brilliant, reminds me alot >of the impression I had when I first loaded up Gran Turismo on the >PSX. > >A racer with superb potential this one. I never played the original GT, but as it was on a PSX maybe its a fair comparison. Gameplay wise this demo is absolutely pathetic compared to the likes of GTA3. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

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> Has anybody tried the NfS: Underground demo that's been floating around? > The graphics are spectacular (the sound is pretty good, too), even if the > tuner mods are about as tasteful as Liberace's last Eldo. I was immediately > put off by the controller routines: impossible to select and calibrate, and > the steering-lag rates right up there with a curved-dash Oldsmobile. The > physics model (or lack of it) is a complete joke; why is it that each > succesive iteration of the franchise (this is actually NfS7) is worse than > the one before? That said, the game play is fun--if moronic--especially the > drag race (no quarter-mile here; it slices thru about a mile of downtown > traffic). It owes more to 2Fast 2Furious than Gran Turismo 3...which is > probably a mistake. > > Speaking of which, I see there's a book about it ("The Cars of Gran > Turismo") in the latest issue of the Motorbooks International catalog. I > dunno abt. you, but I suspect there's more action in the book than any > racing game from EA. > > --Steve Smith

I love this Game!!! I admit, The FnF movies got me hooked on street racing and I love the nissan 350Z. Personnally, I like the car handling (may not be realistic) and the gameplay is going to be great in the Final Version. There is many modes such as Drag, Circuit, Sprint and Drift, plus a storymode, car customization and online play.

[email hidden] (Skyline) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > I love this Game!!! I admit, The FnF movies got me hooked on street > racing and I love the nissan 350Z. Personnally, I like the car > handling (may not be realistic) and the gameplay is going to be great > in the Final Version. There is many modes such as Drag, Circuit, > Sprint and Drift, plus a storymode, car customization and online play. I agree completely and can't wait to get my hands on the full version of this gem, as for being called an idiot - go back to worshipping papy and playing ur beloved gpl you sim freak!!!

On 12 Nov 2003 23:26:47 -0800, [email hidden] (cronik) wrote: >I agree completely and can't wait to get my hands on the full version >of this gem, as for being called an idiot - go back to worshipping >papy and playing ur beloved gpl you sim freak!!! This is a sim newsgroup, and while you may enjoy playing it, NFS:U isn't remotely sim like. It doesn't even have good arcade style physics IMO. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

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> On 12 Nov 2003 23:26:47 -0800, [email hidden] (cronik) wrote: > > >I agree completely and can't wait to get my hands on the full version > >of this gem, as for being called an idiot - go back to worshipping > >papy and playing ur beloved gpl you sim freak!!! > > This is a sim newsgroup, and while you may enjoy playing it, NFS:U > isn't remotely sim like. It doesn't even have good arcade style > physics IMO.

Well I resent being labelled an idiot for admiting to liking this game by some snotty nosed sim racer.

IMO, it isn't a matter of whether it's a sim or an arcade racer, but whether it does what it does well. Again IMO, NfS:U doesn't. As noted, the steering response suffers from comatose lag: you turn the wheel and what seems like eons later, the car responds. That's just plain asinine. Midtown Madness for the Xbox, for example, may not be any more serious than an Abbott and Costello movie, but when you turn the wheel (or rather, nudge the stubby joystick), the car turns. No excuse. "cronik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote in messagenews:<[email hidden]>...

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> > On 12 Nov 2003 23:26:47 -0800, [email hidden] (cronik) wrote: > > > > >I agree completely and can't wait to get my hands on the full version > > >of this gem, as for being called an idiot - go back to worshipping > > >papy and playing ur beloved gpl you sim freak!!! > > > > This is a sim newsgroup, and while you may enjoy playing it, NFS:U > > isn't remotely sim like. It doesn't even have good arcade style > > physics IMO. > > > Well I resent being labelled an idiot for admiting to liking this game > by some snotty nosed sim racer.

[email hidden] (cronik) wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Well I resent being labelled an idiot for admiting to liking this game > by some snotty nosed sim racer. > Always remember, the moment you express an opinion here, you are open season for Snipers. If you would have qualified your appraisal, then you might have gotten away unscathed. Next time try this: "While it's no GPL, there is enough fun factor to overlook the obvious shortcommings." There! I should copyright that..:) THe above line will protect you from further snotty nosed respondants. dave henrie