Rally Championship

Hmm..anyone know why the release date has changed from tomorrow (29/10) to the 19th November? (apart from the fact that the lousy handling needed addressing from the demo!!!)

It's been pushed back becaaue they wanted to make it the best sim ever made. The delay has nothing to do whatsoever with "lousy handling". One mistake they made was assuming that most people here at r.a.s. could read and comprehend. As if r.a.s. really matters to anyone but ourselves. David G Fisher

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> > As if r.a.s. really matters to anyone but ourselves. > Would that include you also David, or you consider yourself as superior to > r.a.s ? > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

That includes me. David G Fisher

Would that include you also David, or you consider yourself as superior to r.a.s ? -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

David, I downloaded the Rally 2 Demo and was not in the least impressed. It appears from a cursory look to be to arcadish for my tastes. Now if you like that type of racing game, fine. I don't. I won't buy it, more than likely. It reminds me too much of an EA game, and the graphics are not good, 3dfx-- though that doesn't concern me as much as having a good simulator. Alanb

Good ;-) I think the situation is pretty normal for r.a.s. We are just, hmm how can I say, very safe on upcoming sims, yet at the same time we won't mind expressing rage if it's not correct. Ex: We await with great interest those new sims, but at the same time we don't panic. But when we do, we do. It's normal we fear a little RC and how it will be. We won't trust whatever people say until we get our hands on it. After, we will judge it. Too many softwares have failed the hype. C:PR, MGPRS2 (that's true remember all), and just this week, Spirit of Speed. Demos are so overlooked by software developers. And Im talking about everybody. I found incredible that Papyrus hasn't released a demo yet for Nascar Racing 3. Personally I just want a realistic Rally sim. Eye-candy isn't that important as a good game engine that simulates very well Rally racing. Throttle-feathering, realistic corner braking and power-sliding. Hit a tree and your weekend is over. Turbo lag. Good stages, where sometimes slow = fast. And nice online racing, where everybody starts the stage at the same time, and at the end you see everybody's results, and pass on the next stage (while waiting for other to finish you could look at them). Just hard-core Rally racing. But put arcade stuff for the masses ;) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

> I downloaded the Rally 2 Demo and was not in the least impressed. > It appears from a cursory look to be to arcadish for my tastes. > Now if you like that type of racing game, fine. That was my impression, too, but I've been advised to wait for the final demo. I've decided to postpone my purchasing decision until then. Marko;

I think Fish needs to know that we will still like him even if Rally Championship doesn't deliver. DF - Don't become defensive - this isn't your sim, even though you've been it's main defender here on RAS from the begining. Don't let it come between you and us. There will be many great sims in the future (imagine what we will be seeing in 5 years). Let's just take them as they come :) David Cook > It's been pushed back becaaue they wanted to make it the best sim ever made.

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> The delay has nothing to do whatsoever with "lousy handling". One mistake > they made was assuming that most people here at r.a.s. could read and > comprehend. > As if r.a.s. really matters to anyone but ourselves. > David G Fisher > > Hmm..anyone know why the release date has changed from tomorrow (29/10)

to > > the 19th November? > > (apart from the fact that the lousy handling needed addressing from the > > demo!!!)

agreed. D. Fish, I want to have your baby. DK > I think Fish needs to know that we will still like him even if Rally > Championship doesn't deliver. DF - Don't become defensive - this isn't your > sim, even though you've been it's main defender here on RAS from the > begining. Don't let it come between you and us. > There will be many great sims in the future (imagine what we will be seeing

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> in 5 years). Let's just take them as they come :) > David Cook > > It's been pushed back becaaue they wanted to make it the best sim ever > made. > > The delay has nothing to do whatsoever with "lousy handling". One

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> > they made was assuming that most people here at r.a.s. could read and > > comprehend. > > As if r.a.s. really matters to anyone but ourselves. > > David G Fisher > > > Hmm..anyone know why the release date has changed from tomorrow

(29/10) > to > > > the 19th November? > > > (apart from the fact that the lousy handling needed addressing from the > > > demo!!!)

>It's been pushed back becaaue they wanted to make it the best sim ever made. How much better is the latest version you claim to have played than the demo us mere mortals have tried? Please give some non-vague details of what's been improved. Things that NEED sorted are: Physics - as I went on about in an earlier post, you don't just come to a dead stop when you clip something in real life - there's inertia, energy disipation, you don't just do 80-0 instantaneously. It's probably this flaw that explains why there's no feeling of weight when the car gets sideways and corrections result in the rear of the car coming immediately back in line. I want to be wrong (I don't know how many times I've said that) but I can't believe that they've managed to overhaul (and that's what was needed) something so integral to the sim. Steering - unplayable with dead zone, unplayable without. Dealing with wheel input is one of the few things they got right in RAC, and now that's screwed (I know, I know - it's the demo). Here is a demo that plays better with the keyboard - good sign of an arcade racer. Tell me it's fixed. I have no idea what you're implying here. Please expand. The fact that this is a text based forum and therefore completely useless to anyone who can't read... What was the delay? And who else does it need to matter to? Your mum? My Auntie? The President of the United States? You are getting -way- defensive over a product that hasn't been released and so far has only disappointed. You don't like us slagging the demo claiming it's just a beta (it's all we've got to work with here) yet you don't give any sort feedback as to what specifically has been improved. Claims of 'best sim ever' in this company really ought to be founded, and not just by a bunch of rally drivers who's previous experience of sim racing was probably Pole Position or 5 minutes with CMR and a dual shock. Have they tried SODA? The best off-road sim bar none. If they did, maybe they'd re-evaluate. After all, Mark Blundell sung the praises of CART PR... Cheers Mark Reading, UK

Anyone know when Rally Championship will be out in UK? Heard it was to be end of October, then it might be 19th November. PJ

Last I heard it was the 12th. A week tomorrow... More importantly, now that the game is complete, when do we see a 'proper' demo? Cheers Mark Reading, UK Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

The 19th of November. David G Fisher