VooDoo3 2000 no big change...

Ok...I just installed a new Voodoo3 2000 PCI in an AMD K6 2-350 "3D Now". And I'm not all that impressed. I should be impressed, so there must be something I'm doing wrong. My old 3D card was the "Monster 3D"...the original first version. I didn't get an appreciable jump in frame rates over my Monster 3D. It would run around 15 to 20 fpms running around Dega. Now the new Voodoo 3 2000 is showing a few frames higher...about 17 to 22 fpms. Is this normal to have only a few frame rate jump? Also...I did Disable my onboard ATI Rage Pro with no problem. It's showing a big red "X" in the properties section for it in the Device Manager. But...after I uninstalled my Monster 3D, I thought the tabs would be gone in my Display settings. They're still there. I can even do the same tests on it that I could before. The new Voodoo 3 has it's own tabs displayed too. How do I get rid of the Monster 3D tabs. I checked my Registry, and it still shows the Monster as one of the display adapters. So apparently it didn't "Uninistall" completely. I downloaded and installed the newest drivers for the Voodoo 3. And also DirectX 7. One note...my FS98 Flight Simulator runs a LOT smoother on the new Voodoo 3. And it doubled in frame rates from the old Monster 3D. So it's working fine on that one. And my GPL runs smoother too...although everything is a lot darker. After reading this book...are there any suggestions out there for me? Thanks in advance... Jim Tester

I don't think you'll be happy until you upgrade your cpu to something with a decent floating point, like a celeron or PII. I have an AMD K6 2-400 using a Voodoo3 3000 and it doesn't do as well as my PII-333 using a Voodoo2.

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> Ok...I just installed a new Voodoo3 2000 PCI in an AMD K6 2-350 "3D Now". > And I'm not all that impressed. I should be impressed, so there must be > something I'm doing wrong. My old 3D card was the "Monster 3D"...the > original first version. > I didn't get an appreciable jump in frame rates over my Monster 3D. It > would run around 15 to 20 fpms running around Dega. Now the new Voodoo 3 > 2000 is showing a few frames higher...about 17 to 22 fpms. Is this normal > to have only a few frame rate jump? > Also...I did Disable my onboard ATI Rage Pro with no problem. It's

showing > a big red "X" in the properties section for it in the Device Manager. > But...after I uninstalled my Monster 3D, I thought the tabs would be gone in > my Display settings. They're still there. I can even do the same tests on

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> it that I could before. The new Voodoo 3 has it's own tabs displayed too. > How do I get rid of the Monster 3D tabs. I checked my Registry, and it > still shows the Monster as one of the display adapters. So apparently it > didn't "Uninistall" completely. > I downloaded and installed the newest drivers for the Voodoo 3. And also > DirectX 7. > One note...my FS98 Flight Simulator runs a LOT smoother on the new Voodoo

3. > And it doubled in frame rates from the old Monster 3D. So it's working fine

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> on that one. And my GPL runs smoother too...although everything is a lot > darker. > After reading this book...are there any suggestions out there for me? > Thanks in advance... > Jim Tester

You will need to upgrade your main unit. The K6 or any non Intel cpu cause less performance from the Voodoo boards (all 3 series). With the Celeron 400 and the V3 2000 1024*768 GPL has 35-37 frames (except the start) while N3 rocks around 30 frames... -- Oliver Nikolic DP-MAX Computers http://www.dp-max.co.yu/ BeoRocket Racing Team (retired) http://www.beorocket.co.yu/ > Ok...I just installed a new Voodoo3 2000 PCI in an AMD K6 2-350 "3D Now". > And I'm not all that impressed. I should be impressed, so there must be > something I'm doing wrong. My old 3D card was the "Monster 3D"...the > original first version. > I didn't get an appreciable jump in frame rates over my Monster 3D. It > would run around 15 to 20 fpms running around Dega. Now the new Voodoo 3 > 2000 is showing a few frames higher...about 17 to 22 fpms. Is this normal > to have only a few frame rate jump? > Also...I did Disable my onboard ATI Rage Pro with no problem. It's showing > a big red "X" in the properties section for it in the Device Manager. > But...after I uninstalled my Monster 3D, I thought the tabs would be gone in > my Display settings. They're still there. I can even do the same tests on > it that I could before. The new Voodoo 3 has it's own tabs displayed too. > How do I get rid of the Monster 3D tabs. I checked my Registry, and it > still shows the Monster as one of the display adapters. So apparently it > didn't "Uninistall" completely. > I downloaded and installed the newest drivers for the Voodoo 3. And also > DirectX 7. > One note...my FS98 Flight Simulator runs a LOT smoother on the new Voodoo 3. > And it doubled in frame rates from the old Monster 3D. So it's working fine > on that one. And my GPL runs smoother too...although everything is a lot > darker. > After reading this book...are there any suggestions out there for me? > Thanks in advance... > Jim Tester

I suspect you should remove all of your Monster 1 drivers, then re-install the V3 drivers. The following procedure for removing the Monster 1 drivers is from the Diamond page: http://www.diamondmm.com/products/faqs/current/monster_fusion-faq.htm... "You need to remove the original Voodoo Graphics card and clean out all the old references to the card. 3Dfx provides an .INF file to remove these references. It can be found here: http://www.3dfx.com/view_io.asp?ID=96 Alternatively, you can follow these steps: Go to Start, Run, and type: regedit In the registry editor under: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Enum/PCI delete the VEN_121A&DEV folder HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software delete the 3Dfx Interactive Folder HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Diamond delete the Monster3D folder HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current Version/ControlsFolder/Display/shellex/Property Sheet Handlers delete the folders pertaining to the original voodoo card Then in c:\windows\inf\other delete any *.inf file pertaining to the Monster3D, 3Dfx Interactive, the Monster Fusion, etc. Then, make sure your system is setup to show all hidden files (in windows explorer, click on view, options, folder options, and select show all files) Then go to Start, Find, Files or Folders and search for glide on the C: drive searching all sub-folders. Delete anything you find. Then search for dd3dfx.drv, dd3dfx16.dll, and dd3dfx32.dll and mm3dfx*.*, delete them if you find them. Then search for fxmemmap.vxd and delete it as well. Then search for SST1INIT*.* and delete it as well." Then restart your computer and install your V3 drivers again. Hope this helps. Zog

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> Ok...I just installed a new Voodoo3 2000 PCI in an AMD K6 2-350 "3D Now". > And I'm not all that impressed. I should be impressed, so there must be > something I'm doing wrong. My old 3D card was the "Monster 3D"...the > original first version. > I didn't get an appreciable jump in frame rates over my Monster 3D. It > would run around 15 to 20 fpms running around Dega. Now the new Voodoo 3 > 2000 is showing a few frames higher...about 17 to 22 fpms. Is this normal > to have only a few frame rate jump? > Also...I did Disable my onboard ATI Rage Pro with no problem. It's showing > a big red "X" in the properties section for it in the Device Manager. > But...after I uninstalled my Monster 3D, I thought the tabs would be gone in > my Display settings. They're still there. I can even do the same tests on > it that I could before. The new Voodoo 3 has it's own tabs displayed too. > How do I get rid of the Monster 3D tabs. I checked my Registry, and it > still shows the Monster as one of the display adapters. So apparently it > didn't "Uninistall" completely. > I downloaded and installed the newest drivers for the Voodoo 3. And also > DirectX 7. > One note...my FS98 Flight Simulator runs a LOT smoother on the new Voodoo 3. > And it doubled in frame rates from the old Monster 3D. So it's working fine > on that one. And my GPL runs smoother too...although everything is a lot > darker. > After reading this book...are there any suggestions out there for me? > Thanks in advance... > Jim Tester

did u have a voodoo1 monster 3d? Well something is wrong, something is super wrong. CHeck your drivers. Wishkah

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> Ok...I just installed a new Voodoo3 2000 PCI in an AMD K6 2-350 "3D Now". > And I'm not all that impressed. I should be impressed, so there must be > something I'm doing wrong. My old 3D card was the "Monster 3D"...the > original first version. > I didn't get an appreciable jump in frame rates over my Monster 3D. It > would run around 15 to 20 fpms running around Dega. Now the new Voodoo 3 > 2000 is showing a few frames higher...about 17 to 22 fpms. Is this normal > to have only a few frame rate jump? > Also...I did Disable my onboard ATI Rage Pro with no problem. It's

showing > a big red "X" in the properties section for it in the Device Manager. > But...after I uninstalled my Monster 3D, I thought the tabs would be gone in > my Display settings. They're still there. I can even do the same tests on

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> it that I could before. The new Voodoo 3 has it's own tabs displayed too. > How do I get rid of the Monster 3D tabs. I checked my Registry, and it > still shows the Monster as one of the display adapters. So apparently it > didn't "Uninistall" completely. > I downloaded and installed the newest drivers for the Voodoo 3. And also > DirectX 7. > One note...my FS98 Flight Simulator runs a LOT smoother on the new Voodoo

3. > And it doubled in frame rates from the old Monster 3D. So it's working fine

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> on that one. And my GPL runs smoother too...although everything is a lot > darker. > After reading this book...are there any suggestions out there for me? > Thanks in advance... > Jim Tester

I had a similar experience. Using AMD 450 and Asus P5 ab motherboard I find my framerates only went up by about 2 frames with the Voodoo3 3000 AGP card over my Voodoo 2 card. Part of the problem lies in not being able to use triple burrering (maybe) and I am also perplexed by not being able to enable "delayed transaction" in BIOS. Perhaps we have to live with this in the AMD world. R Alexander