Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing all of Steve's latest F2 setups. Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race, Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups, the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb, readily recover from seriously sideways sides. Midcorner understeer is almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank. And they respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go. Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups! If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up enjoying them more than the F1 cars! Most of my time now is spent in F2 cars. With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967 Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble! Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL. You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC. Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did! You'll find them at: [link lost in import] I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone. Mmmmm! Alison [link lost in import]

Thanks for the Info Alison. :)

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> Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing > Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing > all of Steve's latest F2 setups. > Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race, > Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups, > the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb, > readily recover from seriously sideways sides. Midcorner understeer is > almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank. And they > respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go. > Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't > suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are > superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups! > If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced > Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's > physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started > using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up > enjoying them more than the F1 cars! Most of my time now is spent in F2 > cars. > With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver > performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly > quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967 > Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision > - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and > they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble! > Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are > fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because > of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some > tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of > racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL. > You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my > GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or > against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC. > Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did! > You'll find them at: > [link lost in import] > I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone. > Mmmmm! > Alison > [link lost in import]

So you are still alive and kicking Alan. Guess the rumors weren't true then <VBG> BTW I downloaded Steve's setups (as well as putting a link to it on my site) so you better watch out next time you're lapping me. I might actually be able to stay on your tail momentarily <G> -- Michael Horton Webmaster of http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl GPL F2/F3 Hotlaps and [link lost in import] HTML for Begineers > Thanks for the Info Alison. :) > > Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing > > Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing > > all of Steve's latest F2 setups. > > Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race, > > Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups, > > the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb, > > readily recover from seriously sideways sides. Midcorner understeer is > > almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank. And they > > respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go. > > Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't > > suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are > > superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups! > > If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced > > Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's > > physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started > > using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up > > enjoying them more than the F1 cars! Most of my time now is spent in F2 > > cars. > > With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver > > performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly > > quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967 > > Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision > > - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and > > they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble! > > Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are > > fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because > > of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some > > tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of > > racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL. > > You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my > > GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or > > against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC. > > Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did! > > You'll find them at: > > [link lost in import] > > I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone. > > Mmmmm! > > Alison > > [link lost in import]

Thanks for the tip. I just downloaded the set-ups and tried a few tracks - great fun. I tried the F3 cars a while back and found them a bit too tame (not enough power to use the throttle to steer). With the F2 cars, I can actually race side-by-side and pass the AI at the Ring - even along that narrow downhill section with the sticky bushes on the left! Brian

Hehe, Mike. I'm around just not as much as before, i'm getting bored with GPL I guess you could say. :( But these setup's are good. I ran a test at silverstone with a ferrari, I found out my old setup's suck. I posted a New PB by almost a full second with the new setups. I'll probably stop in for a F2 race in the near future to check these things out thoroughly. Cya soon. Don't under estimate yourself, Mike. You smoked me in the point standings. :)

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> So you are still alive and kicking Alan. Guess the rumors weren't true then > <VBG> BTW I downloaded Steve's setups (as well as putting a link to it on my > site) so you better watch out next time you're lapping me. I might actually > be able to stay on your tail momentarily <G> > -- > Michael Horton > Webmaster of > http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl > GPL F2/F3 Hotlaps > and > [link lost in import] > HTML for Begineers > > Thanks for the Info Alison. :) > > > Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing > > > Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing > > > all of Steve's latest F2 setups. > > > Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race, > > > Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups, > > > the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb, > > > readily recover from seriously sideways sides. Midcorner understeer is > > > almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank. And they > > > respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go. > > > Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't > > > suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are > > > superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups! > > > If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced > > > Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's > > > physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started > > > using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up > > > enjoying them more than the F1 cars! Most of my time now is spent in F2 > > > cars. > > > With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver > > > performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly > > > quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967 > > > Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision > > > - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and > > > they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble! > > > Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are > > > fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because > > > of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some > > > tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of > > > racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL. > > > You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my > > > GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or > > > against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC. > > > Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did! > > > You'll find them at: > > > [link lost in import] > > > I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone. > > > Mmmmm! > > > Alison > > > [link lost in import]

You aren't trying hard enough. :)

I dunno about the new F2 setups. I tried it but my Microsoft FF wheel went all over the place. Most unusual. The cars wanted to fish tail all the time. :( Using the default FF settings. Any solutions? Roger

> > I tried the F3 cars a while back and found them a bit too tame > > (not enough power to use the throttle to steer). > You aren't trying hard enough. :) Another possible reason why they feel so dull/underpowered/slow/ect.. could be because of the sound file that originally came with the Racing Sim. Download an F2F3 engine sound from the net. Believe me it make a word of difference! -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

I can't believe you wimps are still running those training wheels Barlow! ;) ROFLMAO Scott PA-Scott -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

> I can't believe you wimps are still running those training wheels Barlow! ;) > ROFLMAO If I can brag a bit.. I've converted a couple of the GPL pro's to dedicated F3 pro's ;-)) They may be slow, but they put on a better show then the F1's normally do ;-) -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Whats the URL of the F2 guide? I went to my bookmark for Simracing Online and the site looked like it hadn't been updated since 1998. I "must/may" have an out of date address??? dave henrie

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> Thanks for the tip. I just downloaded the set-ups and tried a few tracks - > great fun. I tried the F3 cars a while back and found them a bit too tame > (not enough power to use the throttle to steer). With the F2 cars, I can > actually race side-by-side and pass the AI at the Ring - even along that > narrow downhill section with the sticky bushes on the left! > Brian > > Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing > > Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing > > all of Steve's latest F2 setups. > > With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver > > performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly > > quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967 > > Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision > > - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and > > they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble!

Agreed, the F2's can be *extremely* entertaining... I've had some superb races with them on and offline. I can't stand the F3's but the F2's are great. Although they do tend to mess up my F1 driving if I stick with them for too long :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

Come and join us Scott. Be warned though. Ya might find yourself getting smoked <G> Mark

Download an F2F3 engine sound from the net. Believe me it make a I'm having trouble finding F2 sounds, any URL suggestions? Also, do the F2 sounds have to be put in to replace the existing F1 sounds?

> Download an F2F3 engine sound from the net. Believe me it make a > >word of difference! > >-- > I'm having trouble finding F2 sounds, any URL suggestions? Also, do the F2 > sounds have to be put in to replace the existing F1 sounds? Try Mike Hortons site.. [link lost in import] And, no, they don't replace anything with the F1's. -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= http://members.xoom.com/BarlowRacing/ Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

There has been so many posts in reference to the F2s that I went and got the setups. Now on to Game Spyboy/VROC. Joel Willstein

I downloaded Steve's setups and I'd love to give them a try but I don't know how to install them. It's my first time trying to do that. Kinda of a "downloaded setup ***" as it were. :-D I'm assuming that you have to put the appropriate files in the various track directories. I've looked in there and saw file like "setup.fe1". Steve's files are named something like "WG_fe2.fe2". I extracted that file into the Watkins Glen directory but when I went into Car Setup all I could see was the default setup. Do I have to rename the files or what? Or is there something else I have to do? If someone could give me detailed instructions I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Phil * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!

You need to extract the files to the dir \gpl\players\(your name)\setups\(track)\ Also check that you have selected the right type of car otherwise the setup won't show. The .fe2 shows that it is a Ferrari advanced trainer(F2) setup. You are either extracting to the wrong dir or you have selected the wrong car. Make sure the files arent zipped with a path, so there aren't any subdirectories in the above dir. -Bj?rn