Really wacky problem with GPL

I'm having a really weird problem with GPL. Soon after I start driving, usually 3-5 minutes. The screen freezes but the sound continues and I can still control the car ie the revs when I push the accelerator and I can hear the car hitting the wall. I need to CTRL-ALT-DEL to get back to the desktop and everything's fine. I can then restart GPL and drive until it freezes again and the whole process is repeated. I have tried several different glide dlls (2.50, 2.53, the hacked one that speeds up the side mirrors) in the GPL directory but there is no change. My system is as follows GPL 1.1 192 Megs Ram V2 SLI with latest drivers MX300 with latest Aureal Reference Drivers (2040) DX7 installed Logitech WFF Everything else runs fine just this prob with GPL. Has anyone had a similar prob or does anyone even know what the hell could be causing this? Thanks Luke

Must be your screen saver or another program that wants to display a window. Bart Westra

My screen saver is disabled and I only have the WFF profiler running in the background. Anyway, I have since tried the OpenGL patch on my i740 card and it works fine with no lockups at all. The only problem is there is major flickering and visual artefacts in the menus and in the top and bottom of the game display. The actual game looks fine and runs faster than I expected on a i740. Obviously there is a problem with my 3dfx drivers. They are the latest Creative 3D Blaster drivers. So I dont know what the prob is with them.

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>Must be your screen saver or another program that wants to display a window. >Bart Westra >> I'm having a really weird problem with GPL. Soon after I start >> driving, usually 3-5 minutes. The screen freezes but the sound >> continues and I can still control the car ie the revs when I push the >> accelerator and I can hear the car hitting the wall >>.....

I just realised, when I ctrl-alt-delete there is something called "papywindow' or something similar in the taskmanager box. After I close that 'gpl' apears in the box. This sounds like an error window is comming up but I cant see it and this is what is freezing GPL. Does GPL have any kind of error logging so I can see what happened?

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>My screen saver is disabled and I only have the WFF profiler running >in the background. Anyway, I have since tried the OpenGL patch on my >i740 card and it works fine with no lockups at all. The only problem >is there is major flickering and visual artefacts in the menus and in >the top and bottom of the game display. The actual game looks fine and >runs faster than I expected on a i740. Obviously there is a problem >with my 3dfx drivers. They are the latest Creative 3D Blaster drivers. >So I dont know what the prob is with them. >>Must be your screen saver or another program that wants to display a window. >>Bart Westra >>> I'm having a really weird problem with GPL. Soon after I start >>> driving, usually 3-5 minutes. The screen freezes but the sound >>> continues and I can still control the car ie the revs when I push the >>> accelerator and I can hear the car hitting the wall >>>.....

I had this exact problem and in my case it was somehow caused by local Windows network. Solved it by removing the Client for Microsoft Networks from Control Panel's Network settings. Don't ask me to explain any of it. The only answer I've managed to get from the administrators is a laconic "Windows networks plain suck" comment. Still, I had the client installed for at least 3 years and it was only last summer that I started having these "freeze-ups". My neighbor also experienced the same problem. No idea what actually caused it, maybe some network component (or Linux guys) gone wild? If you got the client installed but don't depend on sharing folders/peripherals in your LAN, give it a try. --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken

Hi! Had the same problem as you. Was caused by overheating V2. Open your computercase and check if your V2's still have their coolers on their chips (if any were mounted). If so, try to cool them with an additional fan or underclock them to 85-80 MHz. Both ways should work. If the coolers have become lose, try to fix them first. Bye! Crash lephraums schrieb:

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> I'm having a really weird problem with GPL. Soon after I start > driving, usually 3-5 minutes. The screen freezes but the sound > continues and I can still control the car ie the revs when I push the > accelerator and I can hear the car hitting the wall. I need to > CTRL-ALT-DEL to get back to the desktop and everything's fine. I can > then restart GPL and drive until it freezes again and the whole > process is repeated. I have tried several different glide dlls (2.50, > 2.53, the hacked one that speeds up the side mirrors) in the GPL > directory but there is no change. My system is as follows > GPL 1.1 > 192 Megs Ram > V2 SLI with latest drivers > MX300 with latest Aureal Reference Drivers (2040) > DX7 installed > Logitech WFF > Everything else runs fine just this prob with GPL. Has anyone had a > similar prob or does anyone even know what the hell could be causing > this? > Thanks > Luke

Had this problem too and fixed it. I think it has to do with heat buildup on your Voodoo II. I found that by turning down the Voodoo II refresh rate from 90Hz to like 65Hz seemed to fix it for me. Fortunately didnt seem to make much difference in the frame rates. -Mark

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> I'm having a really weird problem with GPL. Soon after I start > driving, usually 3-5 minutes. The screen freezes but the sound > continues and I can still control the car ie the revs when I push the > accelerator and I can hear the car hitting the wall. I need to > CTRL-ALT-DEL to get back to the desktop and everything's fine. I can > then restart GPL and drive until it freezes again and the whole > process is repeated. I have tried several different glide dlls (2.50, > 2.53, the hacked one that speeds up the side mirrors) in the GPL > directory but there is no change. My system is as follows > GPL 1.1 > 192 Megs Ram > V2 SLI with latest drivers > MX300 with latest Aureal Reference Drivers (2040) > DX7 installed > Logitech WFF > Everything else runs fine just this prob with GPL. Has anyone had a > similar prob or does anyone even know what the hell could be causing > this? > Thanks > Luke

I had this problem and thought it was a cooling problem of my Voodoo 3000. I put some fans on it and it didn't help. It appears that it happens if I run at 800x600. If I run at the resolution below that (640x480?) or the resolution above that, I have no problems. Russell Keating

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>GPL 1.1 >192 Megs Ram >V2 SLI with latest drivers >MX300 with latest Aureal Reference Drivers (2040) >DX7 installed >Logitech WFF >Everything else runs fine just this prob with GPL. Has anyone had a >similar prob or does anyone even know what the hell could be causing >this?

I had similar problems a while back when I still had a V2. My problems were caused by the V2 overheating. Try reducing your V2 / CPU overclocking to cool it down a bit (or use better cooling for your computer). -- Greger Huttu

Damn, looks like you could warm the house using those Voodoos. At least that's the impression one gets reading this thread. Anyways, for those experiencing this problem AND not using a Voodoo card, try that network thing, sure worked for me. --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken

I have the same problem much too often on my Thriller 3D. I just changed the network settings, hopefully it will work! If so, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! /Torkel http://www.algonet.se/~torkel_b (Very race oriented site!!)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:05:54 +0100, "Torkel B?rjeson" Thanks for all the response. Ok, i'm running my v2s at the default 90 mhz and the case fan at the bottom front of the case blows straight on them. However, this morning I removed the Client for Microsoft Networks and it all seemed fine. I got to race for about 15 mins and then it happened again. I played straight after putting my computer on so it seems that V2s were cool and then when they heated up, freeze. Its strange that no other game is having probs but i'll try some extra cooling and see what happens.

I used to have no problems at all whilst I had my V2 running with an AMD k6/300. I was able to run it at 90mhz and was thinking of o/c it to see if it would improve things. However, just over a month ago I upgraded to a k6-2/450 and new motherboard and since then I get this problem also. I've had to reduce my V2 to 85mhz to avoid this happening quite alot. What bugs me is why there should be such a difference in heat problems caused by changing processors. :-( -- Peter Ives

Do you have your video card overclocked? -Larry

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> I'm having a really weird problem with GPL. Soon after I start > driving, usually 3-5 minutes. The screen freezes but the sound > continues and I can still control the car ie the revs when I push the > accelerator and I can hear the car hitting the wall. I need to > CTRL-ALT-DEL to get back to the desktop and everything's fine. I can > then restart GPL and drive until it freezes again and the whole > process is repeated. I have tried several different glide dlls (2.50, > 2.53, the hacked one that speeds up the side mirrors) in the GPL > directory but there is no change. My system is as follows > GPL 1.1 > 192 Megs Ram > V2 SLI with latest drivers > MX300 with latest Aureal Reference Drivers (2040) > DX7 installed > Logitech WFF > Everything else runs fine just this prob with GPL. Has anyone had a > similar prob or does anyone even know what the hell could be causing > this? > Thanks > Luke

99% sure this is a heat related problem associated with the voodoo cards. I have v2sli, and had similar lockups in the beginning, and I dont ever overclock the cards. I put in a some of those RadioShack squirrel cage fans blowing directly on the voodoo's and now I can oc the cards w/o any lockups. -- Kenny L. #14 Generic Chevy PRC Member Wall Scrapers Racing Team > Do you have your video card overclocked? > -Larry > > I'm having a really weird problem with GPL. Soon after I start > > driving, usually 3-5 minutes. The screen freezes but the sound > > continues and I can still control the car ie the revs when I push the > > accelerator and I can hear the car hitting the wall. I need to > > CTRL-ALT-DEL to get back to the desktop and everything's fine. I can > > then restart GPL and drive until it freezes again and the whole > > process is repeated. I have tried several different glide dlls (2.50, > > 2.53, the hacked one that speeds up the side mirrors) in the GPL > > directory but there is no change. My system is as follows > > GPL 1.1 > > 192 Megs Ram > > V2 SLI with latest drivers > > MX300 with latest Aureal Reference Drivers (2040) > > DX7 installed > > Logitech WFF > > Everything else runs fine just this prob with GPL. Has anyone had a > > similar prob or does anyone even know what the hell could be causing > > this? > > Thanks > > Luke