N3 and win98 dial up networking

HI there, now that N3 has dropped the modem play, (damm pity) I have some mates that I used to race N2 with, who dont have internet connections so has any one tried the dial up networking over a modem that win98/win95 supports to play N3 with, the IPX protocol can be bound to your dial up adaptor ?? Would it work with N3, I have played Quake 2 using this method. Its a pity that all the new games are dropping modem play.

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>HI there, now that N3 has dropped the modem play, (damm pity) I have >some mates that I used to race N2 with, who dont have internet >connections so has any one tried the dial up networking over a modem >that win98/win95 supports to play N3 with, the IPX protocol can be >bound to your dial up adaptor ?? Would it work with N3, I have played >Quake 2 using this method. Its a pity that all the new games are >dropping modem play.

You might need Kali to get it to work, but if Quake works by binding IPX to your dialup then in "theory" it should work with N3, too. Gunner

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>HI there, now that N3 has dropped the modem play, (damm pity) I have >some mates that I used to race N2 with, who dont have internet >connections so has any one tried the dial up networking over a modem >that win98/win95 supports to play N3 with, the IPX protocol can be >bound to your dial up adaptor ?? Would it work with N3, I have played >Quake 2 using this method. Its a pity that all the new games are >dropping modem play.

Me and my brother have been racing against each other by modem play since N1. It at first, seems a shame that they dropped modem play. Use the dialup!!!!!!!!!! No more not being able to pit, warping, heavily screwed up scoring, and other assorted problems. You can now pick which cars you want to race in, and the lists only have to match, you and your opponent don't have to be the first on the list! If you have already figured out how to use the dial-up server and have it stable, you're all set! Now that is another story. I wish MS would have given a little more thought to the setup of it. No modem init strings(prepare to use regedit to change them), but oh well. Go for it. It's much better! Later. -Mark

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>>HI there, now that N3 has dropped the modem play, (damm pity) I have >>some mates that I used to race N2 with, who dont have internet >>connections so has any one tried the dial up networking over a modem >>that win98/win95 supports to play N3 with, the IPX protocol can be >>bound to your dial up adaptor ?? Would it work with N3, I have played >>Quake 2 using this method. Its a pity that all the new games are >>dropping modem play. > You might need Kali to get it to work, but if Quake works by >binding IPX to your dialup then in "theory" it should work with N3, >too. >Gunner

I have the process written up here- [link lost in import] Cheers, Chris "What is real? Are you certain you know what reality is? How do you know at this second you aren't asleep in your bed, dreaming that you are here..." -The Wizard of*** Mortado's Page of Filth- http://www.shadows.com/mortado/

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:18:19 -0700, Mortado Filth

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>>>HI there, now that N3 has dropped the modem play, (damm pity) I have >>>some mates that I used to race N2 with, who dont have internet >>>connections so has any one tried the dial up networking over a modem >>>that win98/win95 supports to play N3 with, the IPX protocol can be >>>bound to your dial up adaptor ?? Would it work with N3, I have played >>>Quake 2 using this method. Its a pity that all the new games are >>>dropping modem play. >> You might need Kali to get it to work, but if Quake works by >>binding IPX to your dialup then in "theory" it should work with N3, >>too. >>Gunner >I have the process written up here- >[link lost in import] >Cheers, >Chris >"What is real? Are you certain you know what reality >is? How do you know at this second you aren't asleep >in your bed, dreaming that you are here..." >-The Wizard of*** >Mortado's Page of Filth- http://www.shadows.com/mortado/

Thanks im off there now

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>how do you this >>>HI there, now that N3 has dropped the modem play, (damm pity) I have >>>some mates that I used to race N2 with, who dont have internet >>>connections so has any one tried the dial up networking over a modem >>>that win98/win95 supports to play N3 with, the IPX protocol can be >>>bound to your dial up adaptor ?? Would it work with N3, I have played >>>Quake 2 using this method. Its a pity that all the new games are >>>dropping modem play.

*snip* IPX Emulation via Dial Up Networking for NASCAR 3 It is possible to play NASCAR 3 ?modem to modem? bypassing slow ISP?s by emulating an IPX network environment over a Dial-Up Networking Server. However the DUN Connection does require some advanced system configuration. Please read through this entire document before attempting these instructions. If you are unsure about any of the steps I recommend that you don?t even attempt this. Have your Windows 95 or Windows 98 CD ready and reboot each machine each time Windows asks you to. Some of these components may not be available in Windows 95 unless the Plus! Pack is installed. Install Dial-Up Server and Dial-Up Networking? 1. Click Start ? Settings ? Control Panel ? Add/Remove Programs ? Windows Setup 2. Highlight the Communication line and click on the Details button 3. Check the Dial-Up Server and Dial-Up Networking boxes If the boxes are already checked then the options are already installed and this step can be skipped Dial-Up Server may not be available in Windows 95 unless the Plus! Pack is installed 4. Click on OK to accept the new Windows Communications Options and Apply the changes 5. Follow the on screen prompts and reboot if asked Install the necessary Networking Components: 1. Click on Start ? Settings ? Control Panel ? Network 2. Select Components Note: If any of these options are already installed they shouldn?t need to be re-installed 3. Install Client for Microsoft Networks Click Add ? Clients ? Microsoft - Client for Microsoft Networks 4. Ensure that Dial-Up Adapter is installed 5. Install IPX/SPX Compatible protocol Click Add ? Protocol ? Microsoft - IPX/SPX Compatible protocol 6. Install File and Print Sharing for Microsoft Networks Click File and Print Sharing and check both boxes. 7. Apply the changes, follow the on screen prompts and reboot if asked If you feel uncomfortable with this next section I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you do not continue! It may be necessary to unbind any Ethernet Adapters from IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol and TCP/IP (this step isn?t always necessary, or you may have to go farther, it depends on the systems): 1. Select your Ethernet Card (i.e. Linksys LNEPCI II or 3Com Fast EtherLink XL 10/100mb TX Ethernet Adapter) and click Properties 2. Select the Bindings Tab 3. Uncheck both IPX/SPX-compatible Protocol and TCP/IP Protocol 4. Click OK, OK and reboot if asked If this doesn?t work it may be necessary to completely unload the Ethernet Card from this hardware profile temporarily: 1. Click Start ? Settings ? Control Panel ? System 2. Select the Device Manager tab 3. Double click on Network Adapters 4. Highlight the Adapter and click Properties 5. Select the General tab 6. Under Device Usage select Disable In This Hardware Profile 7. Uncheck Exist In All Profiles 8. Click on OK a couple of times and reboot if asked Note: This simply keeps Windows from loading the drivers for this device. Simply reversing the steps will undo the process. Create Dial-Up Networking Accounts for the other machine: 1. Double click My Computer and then Dial-Up Networking 2. Double click Make a New Connection and name it NASCAR 3 (you can rename it, this is just or our reference) 3. Follow the rest of the on screen prompts 4. Once the new connection is created it will be necessary to edit it?s setup 5. Click the RIGHT mouse button on the new Icon and select Properties 6. Select Server Types 7. Under Type select PPP: Internet, Windows NT Server, Windows 95/98 8. Uncheck everything except Log On to Network and IPX/SPX Compatible Protocol Note: It may not be necessary to uncheck Software Compression, but it is unselected on this machine. Disable any network applications or Internet Pagers. Programs like ICQ, Yahoo Pager or AOL Instant Messenger may wreak havoc on this process by attempting to connect while you are racing. Ok, that is it for the background setup. Now lets try out the new ?Dial-Up Network?. Set up one machine as a Dial-Up Networking Server (this is the HOST machine): 1. Double click My Computer and then Dial-Up Networking 2. Click the Connection menu and select Dial-Up Server 3. Click Allow Caller Access 4. Leave the default Server Type settings like this: Server Type: Default Advanced Options: [X] Enable Software Compression [X] Require encrypted password Note: The server will run on the task bar as a ?blue screen?, clicking on it will bring the monitor window back up if you accidentally click OK. Connect to the Dial-Up Server with the other machine (this is the CLIENT machine): 1. Double click My Computer and then Dial-Up Networking 2. Double click on the new NASCAR 3 connection Note: Some times you may need to connect 3, 4 or even 5 times before this is successful. Be patient and try again. Start and then immediately Exit NASCAR 3 on both machines before continuing. I can?t explain it but this seems to make everything more stable once you start racing. I?m sure it has no bearing but that is how I always do it. The machines will be connected when the Server Status changes from Monitoring to ?UserName? Connected Since ?Time?. Once this happens the two machines are connected with the IPX Protocol via Dial-Up Networking and it is time to start racing. 1. Insert the NASCAR Racing 3 CD-ROM into the drive (it is required for Multiplayer racing) 2. Start NASCAR Racing 3 3. Select Driver Info and change to the Multi List then click Exit 4. Select Multiplayer 5. Have the HOST machine Host an IPX Network Race and have the CLIENT machine Join an IPX Network Race 6. The Client should see the created game and be able to join 7. The Host should then see the Client connect You should be off an running. Hopefully this will provide a much stronger connection than you get with your ISP. It will take the ?middle man? ISP completely out of the picture greatly improving performance. I hope all this helps. I'm sure these steps won't work for everyone (every computer has its own problems) but hopefully they will work for most. If you have any problems I would make sure there is no other software or hardware that might be conflicting. In some cases, but not all, Ethernet cards can cause problems. The client computer name would eventually come on but when they tried to "race" the client machine would lock-up. Cheers, Chris "What is real? Are you certain you know what reality is? How do you know at this second you aren't asleep in your bed, dreaming that you are here..." -The Wizard of*** Mortado's Page of Filth- http://www.shadows.com/mortado/

how do you this On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:50:06 -0500, "Mark Gums"

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>>HI there, now that N3 has dropped the modem play, (damm pity) I have >>some mates that I used to race N2 with, who dont have internet >>connections so has any one tried the dial up networking over a modem >>that win98/win95 supports to play N3 with, the IPX protocol can be >>bound to your dial up adaptor ?? Would it work with N3, I have played >>Quake 2 using this method. Its a pity that all the new games are >>dropping modem play. >Me and my brother have been racing against each other by modem play >since N1. It at first, seems a shame that they dropped modem play. >Use the dialup!!!!!!!!!! No more not being able to pit, warping, >heavily screwed up scoring, and other assorted problems. You can >now pick which cars you want to race in, and the lists only have to match, >you and your opponent don't have to be the first on the list! If you have >already figured out how to use the dial-up server and have it stable, >you're all set! Now that is another story. I wish MS would have given >a little more thought to the setup of it. No modem init strings(prepare to >use regedit to change them), but oh well. Go for it. It's much better! >Later. -Mark