Adding the 'Oval' track to Monza in GPL? Possible?

I've often marvelled at what is possible with the GPL track engine. Many tracks have offshoots that are not accessible due to fences etc. Monza has an oval that shares the pit straight. From the looks of things the oval is *there* but the fences block it off. Maybe it's just the graphics engine but it looks like the oval goes off into the distance and it *is* there. Possible to remove the fences and do some oval action? :-) T.

Tony, this subject has been flogged to death here at least once......prossibly more. Or maybe it seemed like more because the thread just meandered along like a small mountain stream for so long. I think that the concensus of informed opinion at the time concluded that it was not possible to simply "open the barrier" and speed off into the distance, any more so than it is possible to move the barrels at the 'Ring and use the short "pit loop" road rather than warming the tyres up via a full lap!

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> I've often marvelled at what is possible with the GPL track > engine. Many tracks have offshoots that are not accessible > due to fences etc. > Monza has an oval that shares the pit straight. From the looks > of things the oval is *there* but the fences block it off. > Maybe it's just the graphics engine but it looks like the > oval goes off into the distance and it *is* there. > Possible to remove the fences and do some oval action? :-) > T.

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Now THAT would be convience :) Chris <snip>

And that's what they did in real life. Apparently they would use it a lot to get the cars set up for the weather conditions before embarking on the full lap. Its a pity we can't use it - partly to warm the tyres and partly to avoid 8.5 wasted minutes doing a lap. Especially since that one always seems to be my best lap:-) - Michael

Actually, both are possible Bruce if you have intense knowledge of TRK editing. It's very hard work (moving the whole Nurburgring start complex as the "inside-only section of the track" object so you can loop the track in two ways, kinda like Rouen you have a secondary road), and as for the Monza Oval, it is possible. Requires you to do a complete restructuration of the track.dat. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

It's not all there. The banking that you pass under doesn't extend very far; turn the detail way down so that the trees go away, and you'll see. Monza is a completely different place on a slow Pentium- it looks like it's in the middle of a plain, the only grandstand is on the home stretch, and most of the banking is torn down. It could be in Kansas. I wonder how far the parts that link into the home stretch really go - obviously, not too far, since they don't link into the banking. But they certainly give the illusion. Since the track editing would be pretty extensive, buying Spirit of Speed 1937 is probably the easiest way. What is it about the mix of oval and road circuit that is so appealing? Is it everyone, or mostly Americans who grew up with ovals? I, for one, enjoy road and street races more on TV, but there's still nothing quite like a superspeedway. -- Jonathan Bishop Remove "nospam" to reply

I'm from the UK, but I'd still like to try Monza + oval. I think part of it for me is reading how much drivers of the time hated it and found it incredibly scary. And it's a "what-if" scenario, because the 3 litre F1 cars never raced on it. - Michael