Wheel Reviews

Is there a site with wheel reviews anywhere ? I'm after reviews from the more sim orientated player. I've googled like a mad thing, but all I seem to get are arcade type reviews or really out of date ones. The last thing I remember was that the Act Labs wheel was the one to have, but that's from way back when! Thanks S

Try here: http://schooner.gotdns.com/eracer/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=6&tabid=8 Sean "S�an Connolly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cPMrb.6578$[email hidden]...

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> Is there a site with wheel reviews anywhere ? I'm after reviews from the > more sim orientated player. I've googled like a mad thing, but all I seem > to get are arcade type reviews or really out of date ones. > > The last thing I remember was that the Act Labs wheel was the one to have, > but that's from way back when! > > Thanks > > S > >

> Try here: > http://schooner.gotdns.com/eracer/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=6&tabid=8 spot on, thanks!

Glad to help. Sean "S�an Connolly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1p1sb.6892$[email hidden]...

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> > Try here: > > http://schooner.gotdns.com/eracer/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=6&tabid=8 > > > spot on, thanks! > >

Séan Connolly wrote:

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> The last thing I remember was that the Act Labs wheel was the one to have, > but that's from way back when! > > Thanks > > S >

Check the date on any AL wheel reviews. They changed the cartridge around July 2001 for the worse (steering resolution is just awful). If they say the steering is smooth and precise then it's either an earlier wheel or they don't know what they are talking about. Watch out for the logitech wheels as well, the original Momo was much better than the 2nd version. Ken

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> Check the date on any AL wheel reviews. They changed the cartridge aroun > d July > 2001 for the worse (steering resolution is just awful). If they say the > > steering is smooth and precise then it's either an earlier wheel or they > don't > know what they are talking about. Watch out for the logitech wheels as w > ell, > the original Momo was much better than the 2nd version.

So whats the current fave wheel these days then ?

>Watch out for the logitech wheels as well,the original Momo was muchbetter >than the 2nd version. Better in what way ?

DrLargePants wrote: >>Watch out for the logitech wheels as well,the original Momo was much > > better >than the 2nd version. > > Better in what way ? Just going by the reviews, the original had more metal parts (steering shaft, ball bearings, aluminum pedals, etc). The newer version was mostly plastic, but still a decent wheel from what I've heard, and some liked the pedals better than on the original version. Also see where a few claim the FF was better on the newer version. Again, this is what I've read, not actually used one. Someone that's actually tried both could confirm this. The original red Momo seems to be the one to get, if FF is a must. These may be getting hard to find these days. Ken

The MSFFW is awfully good at $39.95 :) -Larry "DrLargePants" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Check the date on any AL wheel reviews. They changed the cartridgearoun > > d July > > 2001 for the worse (steering resolution is just awful). If they say the > > > > steering is smooth and precise then it's either an earlier wheel or they > > don't > > know what they are talking about. Watch out for the logitech wheels asw > > ell, > > the original Momo was much better than the 2nd version. > > > So whats the current fave wheel these days then ?

> Just going by the reviews, the original had more metal parts (steering shaft, > ball bearings, aluminum pedals, etc). The newer version was mostly plastic, but > still a decent wheel from what I've heard, and some liked the pedals better than > on the original version. Yes apparently the pedals are better as is the accuracy of the wheel. Its also half the price and has no leather on it so I'm quite tempted actually! >Also see where a few claim the FF was better on the > newer version. Again, this is what I've read, not actually used one. Someone > that's actually tried both could confirm this. > > The original red Momo seems to be the one to get, if FF is a must. These may be > getting hard to find these days. I actually found a place that will ship these to the UK/Europe from Denmark, as for the US I dunno its still listed on logitech's website so I presume you can still buy it.

> The MSFFW is awfully good at $39.95 :) Yeah does seem pretty good value at that price, unfortunately after the whole Microsoft/Saitek debacle I aint touching one with a barge pole!

S�an Connolly : > > The MSFFW is awfully good at $39.95 :) > > Yeah does seem pretty good value at that price, unfortunately after the > whole Microsoft/Saitek debacle I aint touching one with a > barge pole! Can you (or somebody) explain to me what this is about? -- Mario

San Connolly : Can you (or somebody) explain to me what this is about? -- Mario

> Can you (or somebody) explain to me what this is about? -- Mario Don't panic! Basically Saitek released a FF wheel a while back that was powered by 'Microsoft Force Feedback' technology. After this partnership was ended, Saitek dropped all support for the wheel (apparently cos of licensing issues with Microsoft), which included developing drivers so the damn thing would work with 2000/XP. So unless you wanted to use Windows 9x you were stuck with a very expensive and usless lump of plastic and metal. Hardly an issue if you have a current Microsoft/Saitek wheel, but it pissed me off no end so I'm not buying another wheel from either of them again!

S�an Connolly :

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> > Can you (or somebody) explain to me what this is about? -- Mario > > Don't panic! > > Basically Saitek released a FF wheel a while back that was powered by > 'Microsoft Force Feedback' technology. After this partnership > was ended, Saitek dropped all support for the wheel (apparently cos of > licensing issues with Microsoft), which included developing > drivers so the damn thing would work with 2000/XP. So unless you wanted > to use Windows 9x you were stuck with a very expensive and > usless lump of plastic and metal. > > Hardly an issue if you have a current Microsoft/Saitek wheel, but it > pissed me off no end so I'm not buying another wheel from > either of them again!

Oh! Thanks, : ). -- Mario

LOL sean... I have to laugh though, if I adapted this attitude about every component that ended up with drivers issues and or microsoft problems, well erm I dont even think I would be able to own a Macintosh... :) But I aplaud your resolve, long time ago I felt very strongly about something, hell I even tried a hunger strike, but back then mom just whipped my arse, so I have not attempted to be a 'radical' since :) S�an Connolly wrote:

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>> Can you (or somebody) explain to me what this is about? -- >> Mario > > > Don't panic! > > Basically Saitek released a FF wheel a while back that was powered by > 'Microsoft Force Feedback' technology. After this partnership was > ended, Saitek dropped all support for the wheel (apparently cos of > licensing issues with Microsoft), which included developing drivers > so the damn thing would work with 2000/XP. So unless you wanted to > use Windows 9x you were stuck with a very expensive and usless lump > of plastic and metal. > > Hardly an issue if you have a current Microsoft/Saitek wheel, but it > pissed me off no end so I'm not buying another wheel from either of > them again!

More for me :) -Larry "S�an Connolly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yyYyb.15695$[email hidden]... > > The MSFFW is awfully good at $39.95 :) > > Yeah does seem pretty good value at that price, unfortunately after thewhole Microsoft/Saitek debacle I aint touching one with a > barge pole! > >

More for me :) -Larry whole Microsoft/Saitek debacle I aint touching one with a

> More for me :) Why, how many do you need at one time ;-)

Sting32 :

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> LOL sean... I have to laugh though, if I adapted this attitude about > every > component that ended up with drivers issues and or microsoft problems, > well > erm I dont even think I would be able to own a Macintosh... :) > > But I aplaud your resolve, long time ago I felt very strongly about > something, hell I even tried a hunger strike, but back then mom just > whipped > my arse, so I have not attempted to be a 'radical' since :) > > S�an Connolly : > > Basically Saitek released a FF wheel a while back that was powered by > > 'Microsoft Force Feedback' technology. After this partnership was > > ended, Saitek dropped all support for the wheel (apparently cos of > > licensing issues with Microsoft), which included developing drivers > > so the damn thing would work with 2000/XP. So unless you wanted to > > use Windows 9x you were stuck with a very expensive and usless lump > > of plastic and metal. > > > > Hardly an issue if you have a current Microsoft/Saitek wheel, but it > > pissed me off no end so I'm not buying another wheel from either of > > them again!

I have similar feeling about Logitech. I had red Logitech. Excellent FF, but really crapy pedals. I really had problems with them, sometimes. One respectible company should knew better. Now I have Thrustmaster, what a difference. Next time I'll be buying a Logitech wheel I'll think more than twice. -- Mario

Well, I have three now :) An old GameCard version I retired about 3 years ago. My current USB model I've been using for three years. It is still working fine except for a slight stickyness that started with the left shifter a couple of months ago. The new one I just got for $39 :) I plan on putting the new one in service, and when I get time I'm going to tear apart the current one, clean all the dog and cat hair that's accumulated in it over the last 3 years, hit that sticky shifter with a bit of TV Tuner Cleaner/Lube, and then put it in the box ready as a stand-by. I beat the hell out of this thing, and it's held up marvelously. -Larry "S�an Connolly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9KXzb.17057$[email hidden]... > > More for me :) > > > Why, how many do you need at one time ;-) > >

I have a brand-new Momo in the box I bought when they were just out and cost $200. Has about 30 minutes on it. It's been on the shelf for over a year now. Same reason as you. Wonderful wheel, satanic pedals. I still aren't sure what I'm going to do with it. -Larry "Mario Petrinovich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bqpkmt$qd1$[email hidden]...

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> Sting32 : > > LOL sean... I have to laugh though, if I adapted this attitude about > > every > > component that ended up with drivers issues and or microsoft problems, > > well > > erm I dont even think I would be able to own a Macintosh... :) > > > > But I aplaud your resolve, long time ago I felt very strongly about > > something, hell I even tried a hunger strike, but back then mom just > > whipped > > my arse, so I have not attempted to be a 'radical' since :) > > > > S�an Connolly : > > > Basically Saitek released a FF wheel a while back that was powered by > > > 'Microsoft Force Feedback' technology. After this partnership was > > > ended, Saitek dropped all support for the wheel (apparently cos of > > > licensing issues with Microsoft), which included developing drivers > > > so the damn thing would work with 2000/XP. So unless you wanted to > > > use Windows 9x you were stuck with a very expensive and usless lump > > > of plastic and metal. > > > > > > Hardly an issue if you have a current Microsoft/Saitek wheel, but it > > > pissed me off no end so I'm not buying another wheel from either of > > > them again! > > I have similar feeling about Logitech. I had red Logitech.

Excellent > FF, but really crapy pedals. I really had problems with them, sometimes.One > respectible company should knew better. Now I have Thrustmaster, what a > difference. Next time I'll be buying a Logitech wheel I'll think more than > twice. -- Mario > >

Yes. Especially when, when we drive Nascar in today's so-realistic sims, we are actaully doing a lot of turning by playing with pedals (as was so nicely described in N 2003 'Driving Lessons'). -- Mario Larry :

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> I have a brand-new Momo in the box I bought when they were just out and > cost > $200. Has about 30 minutes on it. It's been on the shelf for over a year > now. > > Same reason as you. Wonderful wheel, satanic pedals. > > I still aren't sure what I'm going to do with it. -Larry > > Mario Petrinovich : > > I had red Logitech. Excellent > > FF, but really crapy pedals. I really had problems with them, sometimes. > > One > > respectible company should knew better. Now I have Thrustmaster, what a > > difference. Next time I'll be buying a Logitech wheel I'll think more > > than twice. -- Mario

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:4I5Ab.43249$yM6.39670@lakeread06: > I have a brand-new Momo in the box I bought when they were just out > and cost $200. Has about 30 minutes on it. It's been on the shelf > for over a year now. You willing to sell it? If so, how much? I could use a spare if the price were right.

Hmmm..... What are they selling for new these days ? Is it worth, oh, $80 + shipping? -Larry "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:4I5Ab.43249$yM6.39670@lakeread06: > > > I have a brand-new Momo in the box I bought when they were just out > > and cost $200. Has about 30 minutes on it. It's been on the shelf > > for over a year now. > > You willing to sell it? If so, how much? I could use a spare if the

price > were right.

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:5NaAb.44433$yM6.22464@lakeread06: > Is it worth, oh, $80 + shipping? > > -Larry Yeah drop me an email. Yours isn't listed, otherwise I'd email you.

I don't have yours either... Email me at: [email hidden] Remove the middle word for it to work :) -Larry "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:5NaAb.44433$yM6.22464@lakeread06: > > > > Is it worth, oh, $80 + shipping? > > > > -Larry > > Yeah drop me an email. Yours isn't listed, otherwise I'd email you.

I don't have yours either... Remove the middle word for it to work :) -Larry > > Is it worth, oh, $80 + shipping? > > -Larry > Yeah drop me an email. Yours isn't listed, otherwise I'd email you.