After GPL and Spirit of Speed 1937...

We will get an authentic 1910 Ford T (flame me if it doesn't fit with the time period) racing game! Or how about a Roman chariot racing sim? "You can customise you chariots by adding wheel spikes to attack other chariots, buy a longer whip to get rid of the adversaries, etc. When you loose, fear for your life a you will be feed to the lions at the coliseum..." What will they think of next? Sorry, I'm a bit tired right now. What type of racing wasn't done yet? Your opinion (seriously). Philster

Here in the US we have a rich tradition of road racing which began just after the turn of the century (where did we go wrong!). In Savannah, Goergia, beginning in 1908 and ending in 1911, there was a 17.1 mile road course, in Long Island, New York, a 30.24 mile track run from 1904 to 1910. In Milwaukee, Wisconsin, a 7.88 mile circuit used only once in 1912, and here in Santa Monica, California, an 8.4 mile course used for more than 10 years beginning in 1909. All were made up of city streets. The races were showcases for the manufacturers of the time, Franklin, Peerless, Thomas Flyer, Rambler, Chalmers-Detroit, Studebaker, Cadillac, Locomobile, Buick, Maxwell, Pope-Hartford, Fiat, Isotta, Reo, Marmon and many others. A racing sim of the early days of the automobile would have very limited appeal, but I for one would jump at the chance to challange Barney Oldfield for the Vanderbilt Cup<g> don [|]-(_)-[|]

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>We will get an authentic 1910 Ford T (flame me if it doesn't fit with >the time period) racing game! Or how about a Roman chariot racing sim? >"You can customise you chariots by adding wheel spikes to attack other >chariots, buy a longer whip to get rid of the adversaries, etc. When you >loose, fear for your life a you will be feed to the lions at the >coliseum..." What will they think of next? Sorry, I'm a bit tired right >now. >What type of racing wasn't done yet? Your opinion (seriously). >Philster

90's--Rally cars with real physics 80's--F1 Turbos --Yeah! 70's--Can Am: monster motors, fat tires and big wings-- What more could you need? 60's--Targa Florio: basically lap around Sicily in a Sports Racing car-- gimme a 904 50's-- Indy -the Roadsters--the Classics 40's--Tank Races!! aka E.Rommel Desert Racing 30's--Bentley Boys at LeMans-- High Tea at midnight 20's--Motorcycle Racing on board tracks-Side valves vs t-heads 10's--Parisian Taxicab races to the Marne-Dodge the shellhole!! 00's--Strange semi agricultural devices endeavour to make it to next town without setting countryside alight 90's --Locomotive racing David

Sidecars? A proper Isle of Mann TT sim? Late 60's sports car racing (Minis, Lotus Cortinas, Alfas, A Ford Falcon or Mustang for contrast)? Stephen : We will get an authentic 1910 Ford T (flame me if it doesn't fit with : the time period) racing game! Or how about a Roman chariot racing sim? : "You can customise you chariots by adding wheel spikes to attack other : chariots, buy a longer whip to get rid of the adversaries, etc. When you : loose, fear for your life a you will be feed to the lions at the : coliseum..." What will they think of next? Sorry, I'm a bit tired right : now. : What type of racing wasn't done yet? Your opinion (seriously). : Philster

: We will get an authentic 1910 Ford T (flame me if it doesn't fit with : the time period) racing game! Or how about a Roman chariot racing sim? : "You can customise you chariots by adding wheel spikes to attack other : chariots, buy a longer whip to get rid of the adversaries, etc. When you : loose, fear for your life a you will be feed to the lions at the : coliseum..." What will they think of next? Sorry, I'm a bit tired right : now. Not such a bad idea. Star Wars Pod Racer is really just Ben Hur on speed. By the way, who didn't like the different engine sounds in that sequence? I swear there is an F1 car mixed in there somewhere, but I still like the Thub-Dub-Dub-Dub sound of the "bad guy's" racer - rather like a big fat muscle car. Stephen

That was an audio treat like no other. And your right. There were certainly F1 sounds mixed in. A lot of other stuff too. I love that scene. It could only have been done by a true racing fan and surely must appeal to all racing fans alike. The Thru-Dub-Dub-Dub is my favorite too. The dead silence when Anakin is forced up the escape ramp.... That scene was as exciting as a real race. Great work! -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA > : We will get an authentic 1910 Ford T (flame me if it doesn't fit with > : the time period) racing game! Or how about a Roman chariot racing sim? > : "You can customise you chariots by adding wheel spikes to attack other > : chariots, buy a longer whip to get rid of the adversaries, etc. When you > : loose, fear for your life a you will be feed to the lions at the > : coliseum..." What will they think of next? Sorry, I'm a bit tired right > : now. > Not such a bad idea. Star Wars Pod Racer is really just Ben Hur on speed. > By the way, who didn't like the different engine sounds in that sequence? > I swear there is an F1 car mixed in there somewhere, but I still like the > Thub-Dub-Dub-Dub sound of the "bad guy's" racer - rather like a big fat > muscle car. > Stephen

racing real cars, like a bmw m3 and a audi a4, etc..etc... Sort of like SCGT, except the cars are production cars. and then in tournament mode you would get money, then buy upgrades, like headers, turbocharged, intake, etc... combine that with midtown madness and you've got yourself a real winner...

I had the chance to hear a presention by Ben Burtt, main sound-designer on SW : Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace, and it was incredible the sheer depth of audio mixing in the movie. I've read a lot about the movie production, since Im a SW geek fan (no shame to that eh) and the research the department did for sound editing was remarkable. For those who don't know, Burtt was also the main sound designer for all the original Star Wars trilogy and the Indiana Jones trilogy, and even won a Special Achievement Award at the Oscars for his work. It is because of him that many sounds from those movies have become popular icon, from R2-D2's sounds to Lightsaber clashes to Chewie's growl. He spent more than 3 years working on the movie and two years alone for the Pod race sequence, using a sample database he has recorded during the last decade, since Ben really loves to travel all-around the world to *** places. He has great talent. The movies sound so *** but at the same time so similar to our real-world. Per example, one incredible thing in TPM is the sound of Darth Maul's lightsaber. It is very distinct from any lightsabers in the movies. It has a very loud bass and almost sounds like a buzz-saw, creating a more dangerous and *** effect to the audience. He is evil, from his gestures to the sound of his lightsaber. It really goes "that" far. The Pod Race sequence is a masterpiece of visual cinematography and also a stunning piece of sound effects. The movie has the assurance of winning both Oscars in both Best Sound and Best Effects, Sound effects editing. Each pod race (18 in total) had a distinct engine sound. You can really hear this when they "start their engines". The rumble of each Pod racer at the start; there is a nice scene where you see one of the podracer blip his throttle with his hand like on a motorcycle (bunny-looking alien). You also have Sebulba with his "Dub-dub-dub-dub" engine sound like you said, but also Anakin and his F1-alike engine sound, or others like Gasgano and his double-tone engine. George really wanted that. In fact Ben went to the Willows Race Track in Carolina to tape engine sounds, and also he recorded boat engines and helicopters. The complexity of the Pod sequence is also amplified by the quickness of the shots. It was difficult for them to create a fade-in/fade out. Instead they recorded a bunch of transitional gear sounds that stand out in a quick shot. Btw most of the crowd noise were recorded from a SF Giants Baseball game :) One of the most known sound effect in TPM is the Battle Tanks in the green hills coming to battle the Gungans at the end of the movie. Ben used an electric razor inside a frying pan and recorded it digitally to create the final sound. Sometimes the simple methods give the best results ! :) I finally suggest to any SW fan to get the Star Wars : Episode 1 Encyclopedia. It is a 2-CD encyclopedia on about everything in the movie - and more. It is so deep you will pass days without even getting back to something you have read. Great software if you want to know more about the movie production and some tidbits about the sound editing during the pod race. -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Just be glad he's not trying to put it in yours...

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> Why is your tongue in your cheek? > Marc. > > Francois, after following this NG for the past 2+ years, I must say that I > > am astonished at the vast improvement in your command of English grammar > > and the speed in which you have come to grips with its quirks and > > peculiarities. Congratulations! (he says....tongue wedged firmly in > > cheek!!)

Thanks Bruce it's an honor and I take such words with high pride. I've quite mastered, even if not perfectly, the subtleties and idioms of the English language, and use it in real-life as often as French for education reasons (McGill University). <bows and says "Ni!!!!"> Now if I could only find time to race in HMRC for Mexico :( -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you...

> Marc Collins wrote > As a fellow struggling-to-become-bilingual Canadian, I > envy Francois--his English is > about 10,000 times better than my French. I always thought bi-lingual to us English speakers meant posting a second message in caps :) Tony

I didn't mean to make fun, Marc. It's simply that I assume (rightly or wrongly) that perhaps Mr. Menard wasn't as tongue-tied as he would have had a lot of us belive two years ago. BK Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ipbL3.2090$[email hidden]... > For this forum, it probably does just fine... Sorry if I took this > personally--it just bothers me when unilingual people make fun ofsomeone's

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> language skills when that language is the person's second or third or > fourth. > > Marc. > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > My French skills?? > > Okay...how about "Rouen", "Reims", Clermont Ferrand", "Peugot",

"Renault",

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> > "Bugatti", "Rene Arnoux"......not to mention my extreme command of > > gastronomical terms such as "truffles", "escargot", "vin blanc", "vin > rouge" > > and "la pomme de terre". > > > > That do, Marc?! :o) > > > > Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:5IUK3.845$[email hidden]... > > > What??????????????? How about you give us a sample of your French > skills. > > > I'll bet you can't even put on a good act . As a fellow > > > struggling-to-become-bilingual Canadian, I envy Francois--his English

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> > > about 10,000 times better than my French. > > > > > > Marc. > > > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Because I'm pretty sure that his original "lack of English" was a > > put-on! > > > > :o) > > > > > > > > Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:pLNK3.94$[email hidden]... > > > > > Why is your tongue in your cheek? > > > > > > > > > > Marc. > > > > > > > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Francois, after following this NG for the past 2+ years, I must > say > > > that > > > > I > > > > > > am astonished at the vast improvement in your command of English > > > > grammar > > > > > > and the speed in which you have come to grips with its quirks

and > > > > > > peculiarities. Congratulations! (he says....tongue wedgedfirmly

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> in > > > > > > cheek!!) > > > > > > > > > > > > ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:J7CK3.983$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > mark jeangerard <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > > > > > That was an audio treat like no other. And your right. There > > were > > > > > > > certainly > > > > > > > > F1 sounds mixed in. A lot of other stuff too. I love that > scene. > > > It > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > only have been done by a true racing fan and surely must > appeal > > to > > > > all > > > > > > > > racing fans alike. The Thru-Dub-Dub-Dub is my favorite too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had the chance to hear a presention by Ben Burtt, main > > > > sound-designer > > > > > on > > > > > > > SW : Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace, and it was incredible the > > sheer > > > > > depth > > > > > > > of audio mixing in the movie. I've read a lot about the movie > > > > > production, > > > > > > > since Im a SW geek fan (no shame to that eh) and the research > the > > > > > > department > > > > > > > did for sound editing was remarkable. For those who don't

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> > > Burtt > > > > > was > > > > > > > also the main sound designer for all the original Star Wars > > trilogy > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Indiana Jones trilogy, and even won a Special Achievement

Award > at > > > the > > > > > > > Oscars for his work. It is because of him that many soundsfrom

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> > > those > > > > > > > movies have become popular icon, from R2-D2's sounds to > Lightsaber > > > > > clashes > > > > > > > to Chewie's growl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He spent more than 3 years working on the movie and two years > > alone > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > Pod race sequence, using a sample database he has recorded > during > > > the > > > > > last > > > > > > > decade, since Ben really loves to travel all-around the world

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> > > > exotic > > > > > > > places. He has great talent. The movies sound so exotic but > at > > > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > time so similar to our real-world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Per example, one incredible thing in TPM is the sound of Darth > > > Maul's > > > > > > > lightsaber. It is very distinct from any lightsabers in the > > movies. > > > > It > > > > > > has > > > > > > > a very loud bass and almost sounds like a buzz-saw, creating a > > more > > > > > > > dangerous and nasty effect to the audience. He is evil, from > his > > > > > gestures > > > > > > > to the sound of his lightsaber. It really goes "that" far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Pod Race sequence is a masterpiece of visual

cinematography > > and > > > > also > > > > > a > > > > > > > stunning piece of sound effects. The movie has the assuranceof

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> > > > winning > > > > > > > both Oscars in both Best Sound and Best Effects, Sound effects > > > > editing. > > > > > > > Each pod race (18 in total) had a distinct engine sound. You > can > > > > really > > > > > > > hear this when they "start their engines". The rumble of each > Pod > > > > racer > > > > > > at > > > > > > > the start; there is a nice scene where you see one of the > podracer > > > > blip > > > > > > his > > > > > > > throttle with his hand like on a motorcycle (bunny-looking > alien). > > > > You > > > > > > also > > > > > > > have Sebulba with his "Dub-dub-dub-dub" engine sound like you > > said, > > > > but > > > > > > also > > > > > > > Anakin and his F1-alike engine sound, or others like Gasgano

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> > his > > > > > > > double-tone engine. George really wanted that. In fact Ben > went > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > Willows Race Track in Carolina to tape engine sounds, and also > he > > > > > recorded > > > > > > > boat engines and helicopters. The complexity of the Pod > sequence > > is > > > > > also > > > > > > > amplified by the quickness of the shots. It was difficult for > > them > > > to > > > > > > > create a fade-in/fade out. Instead they recorded a bunch of > > > > > transitional > > > > > > > gear sounds that stand out in a quick shot. Btw most of the > crowd > > > > noise > > > > > > > were recorded from a SF Giants Baseball game :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most known sound effect in TPM is the Battle Tanks

in > > the > > > > > green > > > > > > > hills coming to battle the Gungans at the end of the movie.Ben > > > used > > > > an > > > > > > > electric razor inside a frying pan and recorded it digitallyto > > > create > > > > > the > > > > > > > final sound. Sometimes the simple methods give the bestresults > ! > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I finally suggest to any SW fan to get the Star Wars : Episode1 > > > > > > > Encyclopedia. It is a 2-CD encyclopedia on about everythingin > > the > > > > > > movie - > > > > > > > and more. It is so deep you will pass days without evengetting

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> > > back > > > > to > > > > > > > something you have read. Great software if you want to know > more > > > > about > > > > > > the > > > > > > > movie production and some tidbits about the sound editing

during

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> > the > > > > pod > > > > > > > race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > > > > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they > don't > > > > > realise > > > > > > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > > > > > ==---------- > > > > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in > the > > > > World! > > > > > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries > > > Servers > > > > > ==----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > > > ==---------- > > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the > > World! > > > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries > Servers > > > ==----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > ==---------- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the

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belive = beeleeve :o) Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I didn't mean to make fun, Marc. > It's simply that I assume (rightly or wrongly) that perhaps Mr. Menard > wasn't as tongue-tied as he would have had a lot of us belive two yearsago.

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> BK > > Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ipbL3.2090$[email hidden]... > > For this forum, it probably does just fine... Sorry if I took this > > personally--it just bothers me when unilingual people make fun of > someone's > > language skills when that language is the person's second or third or > > fourth. > > > > Marc. > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > My French skills?? > > > Okay...how about "Rouen", "Reims", Clermont Ferrand", "Peugot", > "Renault", > > > "Bugatti", "Rene Arnoux"......not to mention my extreme command of > > > gastronomical terms such as "truffles", "escargot", "vin blanc", "vin > > rouge" > > > and "la pomme de terre". > > > > > > That do, Marc?! :o) > > > > > > Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:5IUK3.845$[email hidden]... > > > > What??????????????? How about you give us a sample of your French > > skills. > > > > I'll bet you can't even put on a good act . As a fellow > > > > struggling-to-become-bilingual Canadian, I envy Francois--his

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> is > > > > about 10,000 times better than my French. > > > > > > > > Marc. > > > > > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Because I'm pretty sure that his original "lack of English" was a > > > put-on! > > > > > :o) > > > > > > > > > > Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:pLNK3.94$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Why is your tongue in your cheek? > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Francois, after following this NG for the past 2+ years, I

must > > say > > > > that > > > > > I > > > > > > > am astonished at the vast improvement in your command ofEnglish

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> > > > > grammar > > > > > > > and the speed in which you have come to grips with its quirks > and > > > > > > > peculiarities. Congratulations! (he says....tongue wedged > firmly > > in > > > > > > > cheek!!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:J7CK3.983$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > mark jeangerard <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > > > > > > That was an audio treat like no other. And your right.

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> > > were > > > > > > > > certainly > > > > > > > > > F1 sounds mixed in. A lot of other stuff too. I love that > > scene. > > > > It > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > only have been done by a true racing fan and surely must > > appeal > > > to > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > racing fans alike. The Thru-Dub-Dub-Dub is my favorite

too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had the chance to hear a presention by Ben Burtt, main > > > > > sound-designer > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > SW : Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace, and it was incrediblethe > > > sheer > > > > > > depth > > > > > > > > of audio mixing in the movie. I've read a lot about themovie > > > > > > production, > > > > > > > > since Im a SW geek fan (no shame to that eh) and theresearch

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> > the > > > > > > > department > > > > > > > > did for sound editing was remarkable. For those who don't > know, > > > > Burtt > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > also the main sound designer for all the original Star Wars > > > trilogy > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Indiana Jones trilogy, and even won a Special Achievement > Award > > at > > > > the > > > > > > > > Oscars for his work. It is because of him that many sounds > from > > > > those > > > > > > > > movies have become popular icon, from R2-D2's sounds to > > Lightsaber > > > > > > clashes > > > > > > > > to Chewie's growl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He spent more than 3 years working on the movie and two

years

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> > > alone > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Pod race sequence, using a sample database he has recorded > > during > > > > the > > > > > > last > > > > > > > > decade, since Ben really loves to travel all-around the

world > to > > > > > exotic > > > > > > > > places. He has great talent. The movies sound so exoticbut > > at > > > > the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > time so similar to our real-world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Per example, one incredible thing in TPM is the sound ofDarth > > > > Maul's > > > > > > > > lightsaber. It is very distinct from any lightsabers in the > > > movies. > > > > > It > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > a very loud bass and almost sounds like a buzz-saw, creatinga > > > more > > > > > > > > dangerous and nasty effect to the audience. He is evil,from

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> > his > > > > > > gestures > > > > > > > > to the sound of his lightsaber. It really goes "that" far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Pod Race sequence is a masterpiece of visual > cinematography > > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > stunning piece of sound effects. The movie has the

assurance > of > > > > > winning > > > > > > > > both Oscars in both Best Sound and Best Effects, Soundeffects > > > > > editing. > > > > > > > > Each pod race (18 in total) had a distinct engine sound.You > > can > > > > > really > > > > > > > > hear this when they "start their engines". The rumble ofeach

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> > Pod > > > > > racer > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the start; there is a nice scene where you see one of the > > podracer > > > > > blip > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > throttle with his hand like on a motorcycle (bunny-looking > > alien). > > > > > You > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > have Sebulba with his "Dub-dub-dub-dub" engine sound like

you

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> > > said, > > > > > but > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > Anakin and his F1-alike engine sound, or others like Gasgano > and > > > his > > > > > > > > double-tone engine. George really wanted that. In fact Ben > > went > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Willows Race Track in Carolina to tape engine sounds, and

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> > > them > > > > to > > > > > > > > create a fade-in/fade out. Instead they recorded a bunch of > > > > > > transitional > > > > > > > > gear sounds that stand out in a quick shot. Btw most of the > > crowd > > > > > noise > > > > > > > > were recorded from a SF Giants Baseball game :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most known sound effect in TPM is the Battle

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> in > > > the > > > > > > green > > > > > > > > hills coming to battle the Gungans at the end of the movie. > Ben > > > > used > > > > > an > > > > > > > > electric razor inside a frying pan and recorded it digitally > to > > > > create > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > final sound. Sometimes the simple methods give the best > results > > ! > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I finally suggest to any SW fan to get the Star Wars :

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> 1 > > > > > > > > Encyclopedia. It is a 2-CD encyclopedia on about everything > in > > > the > > > > > > > movie - > > > > > > > > and more. It is so deep you will pass days without even > getting > > > > back > > > > > to > > > > > > > > something you have read. Great software if you want to know > > more > > > > > about > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > movie production and some tidbits about the sound editing > during > > > the > > > > > pod > > > > > > > > race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > > > > > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they > > don't > > > > > > realise > > > > > > > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet

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For this forum, it probably does just fine... Sorry if I took this personally--it just bothers me when unilingual people make fun of someone's language skills when that language is the person's second or third or fourth. Marc. Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My French skills?? > Okay...how about "Rouen", "Reims", Clermont Ferrand", "Peugot", "Renault", > "Bugatti", "Rene Arnoux"......not to mention my extreme command of > gastronomical terms such as "truffles", "escargot", "vin blanc", "vinrouge"

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> and "la pomme de terre". > > That do, Marc?! :o) > > Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5IUK3.845$[email hidden]... > > What??????????????? How about you give us a sample of your French

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> > I'll bet you can't even put on a good act . As a fellow > > struggling-to-become-bilingual Canadian, I envy Francois--his English is > > about 10,000 times better than my French. > > > > Marc. > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Because I'm pretty sure that his original "lack of English" was a > put-on! > > > :o) > > > > > > Marc Collins <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:pLNK3.94$[email hidden]... > > > > Why is your tongue in your cheek? > > > > > > > > Marc. > > > > > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Francois, after following this NG for the past 2+ years, I must

say > > that > > > I > > > > > am astonished at the vast improvement in your command of English > > > grammar > > > > > and the speed in which you have come to grips with its quirks and > > > > > peculiarities. Congratulations! (he says....tongue wedged firmlyin

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> > > > > cheek!!) > > > > > > > > > > ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:J7CK3.983$[email hidden]... > > > > > > mark jeangerard <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > > > > That was an audio treat like no other. And your right. There > were > > > > > > certainly > > > > > > > F1 sounds mixed in. A lot of other stuff too. I love that

scene. > > It > > > > > could > > > > > > > only have been done by a true racing fan and surely mustappeal

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> to > > > all > > > > > > > racing fans alike. The Thru-Dub-Dub-Dub is my favorite too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had the chance to hear a presention by Ben Burtt, main > > > sound-designer > > > > on > > > > > > SW : Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace, and it was incredible the > sheer > > > > depth > > > > > > of audio mixing in the movie. I've read a lot about the movie > > > > production, > > > > > > since Im a SW geek fan (no shame to that eh) and the research

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> > > > > department > > > > > > did for sound editing was remarkable. For those who don't know, > > Burtt > > > > was > > > > > > also the main sound designer for all the original Star Wars > trilogy > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > Indiana Jones trilogy, and even won a Special Achievement Award

at > > the > > > > > > Oscars for his work. It is because of him that many sounds from > > those > > > > > > movies have become popular icon, from R2-D2's sounds toLightsaber

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> > > > clashes > > > > > > to Chewie's growl. > > > > > > > > > > > > He spent more than 3 years working on the movie and two years > alone > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > Pod race sequence, using a sample database he has recorded

during > > the > > > > last > > > > > > decade, since Ben really loves to travel all-around the world to > > > exotic > > > > > > places. He has great talent. The movies sound so exotic butat

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> > the > > > > same > > > > > > time so similar to our real-world. > > > > > > > > > > > > Per example, one incredible thing in TPM is the sound of Darth > > Maul's > > > > > > lightsaber. It is very distinct from any lightsabers in the > movies. > > > It > > > > > has > > > > > > a very loud bass and almost sounds like a buzz-saw, creating a > more > > > > > > dangerous and nasty effect to the audience. He is evil, from

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> > > > gestures > > > > > > to the sound of his lightsaber. It really goes "that" far. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Pod Race sequence is a masterpiece of visual cinematography > and > > > also > > > > a > > > > > > stunning piece of sound effects. The movie has the assurance of > > > winning > > > > > > both Oscars in both Best Sound and Best Effects, Sound effects > > > editing. > > > > > > Each pod race (18 in total) had a distinct engine sound. You

can > > > really > > > > > > hear this when they "start their engines". The rumble of eachPod > > > racer > > > > > at > > > > > > the start; there is a nice scene where you see one of thepodracer > > > blip > > > > > his > > > > > > throttle with his hand like on a motorcycle (bunny-lookingalien).

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> > > You > > > > > also > > > > > > have Sebulba with his "Dub-dub-dub-dub" engine sound like you > said, > > > but > > > > > also > > > > > > Anakin and his F1-alike engine sound, or others like Gasgano and > his > > > > > > double-tone engine. George really wanted that. In fact Ben

went > to > > > the > > > > > > Willows Race Track in Carolina to tape engine sounds, and alsohe > > > > recorded > > > > > > boat engines and helicopters. The complexity of the Podsequence

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> is > > > > also > > > > > > amplified by the quickness of the shots. It was difficult for > them > > to > > > > > > create a fade-in/fade out. Instead they recorded a bunch of > > > > transitional > > > > > > gear sounds that stand out in a quick shot. Btw most of the

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> > > noise > > > > > > were recorded from a SF Giants Baseball game :) > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the most known sound effect in TPM is the Battle Tanks in > the > > > > green > > > > > > hills coming to battle the Gungans at the end of the movie. Ben > > used > > > an > > > > > > electric razor inside a frying pan and recorded it digitally to > > create > > > > the > > > > > > final sound. Sometimes the simple methods give the best results

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> > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > I finally suggest to any SW fan to get the Star Wars : Episode 1 > > > > > > Encyclopedia. It is a 2-CD encyclopedia on about everything in > the > > > > > movie - > > > > > > and more. It is so deep you will pass days without even getting > > back > > > to > > > > > > something you have read. Great software if you want to know

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> > > about > > > > > the > > > > > > movie production and some tidbits about the sound editing during > the > > > pod > > > > > > race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > > > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > > > > > > > > > > > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they

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> > > > realise > > > > > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > > > > ==---------- > > > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in

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No problem, I got quite a few chuckles from this thread. I don't mind people poking me about some bizarre sentence turns or use of weird words in some situations but I guess it's the price to pay ;-) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you...

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You forgot the Berta Benz Rally - refueling at the pharmacy Jens On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 02:09:19 GMT, "David Erb" <[email hidden]> wrote: >90's--Rally cars with real physics<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

You forgot the Berta Benz Rally - refueling at the pharmacy Jens >90's--Rally cars with real physics <snip> --------------------------------------------- Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address

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>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! LOL!! >Nice one, Tony! :o) >> > Marc Collins wrote >> > As a fellow struggling-to-become-bilingual Canadian, I >> > envy Francois--his English is >> > about 10,000 times better than my French. >> I always thought bi-lingual to us English speakers meant posting a second >> message in caps :) >> Tony

Best of all: at least somebody in this thread that knows how to trim down article quotes. Congrats! ;-) Uwe