N3 replay question

I have a question about watching replays during a multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok (in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something that I am doing wrong?? Brad Rosenbaum

I have this same problem. Jim

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>I have a question about watching replays during a >multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as >the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch >views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other >car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps >scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok >(in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. >Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to >different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something >that I am doing wrong?? >Brad Rosenbaum

Are you racing as a client (not hosting the race)? I think you are seeing the only data your PC 'knows' about. The clients only have positional information for 8 or so cars ahead, and a few behind. This is the data you see during the race (especially bad when cars are in the pits and a wreck is just past them on the front stretch, pass the pits and whammo! look at all those roadblocks!). Your replay data is the same. You can only switch to a car in this 12 car moving window that surrounds your own car. When the car you are viewing moves more than 8 ahead of you on the track, or 3 behind you, the replay file no longer has the data to display, so it switches cars. I think (and gonna check in a few minutes) that a host replay file has ALL the data for all cars. Same logic. I am assuming a fair amount here, but I'm sure I will be corrected if I am wrong :-) Jim

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>>I have a question about watching replays during a >>multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as >>the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch >>views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other >>car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps >>scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok >>(in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. >>Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to >>different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something >>that I am doing wrong?? >>Brad Rosenbaum

**************************************************** I'm at jburlis at mail dot postnet dot com

That makes sense to me, and would explain why it works fine offline. Thanks, Brad Rosenbaum

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>Are you racing as a client (not hosting the race)? I think you are >seeing the only data your PC 'knows' about. The clients only have >positional information for 8 or so cars ahead, and a few behind. This >is the data you see during the race (especially bad when cars are in >the pits and a wreck is just past them on the front stretch, pass the >pits and whammo! look at all those roadblocks!). >Your replay data is the same. You can only switch to a car in this 12 >car moving window that surrounds your own car. When the car you are >viewing moves more than 8 ahead of you on the track, or 3 behind you, >the replay file no longer has the data to display, so it switches >cars. >I think (and gonna check in a few minutes) that a host replay file has >ALL the data for all cars. Same logic. >I am assuming a fair amount here, but I'm sure I will be corrected if >I am wrong :-) >Jim >>>I have a question about watching replays during a >>>multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as >>>the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch >>>views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other >>>car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps >>>scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok >>>(in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. >>>Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to >>>different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something >>>that I am doing wrong?? >>>Brad Rosenbaum >**************************************************** >I'm at jburlis at mail dot postnet dot com

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>I have this same problem. >Jim >>I have a question about watching replays during a >>multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as >>the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch >>views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other >>car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps >>scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok >>(in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. >>Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to >>different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something >>that I am doing wrong??

It's called warp folks. When a car disappears on the track during a race it disappears from the replay too. Replay switches to another car that is on the track, most likely the pace car sitting in the pits. If you keep trying to watch one particular car and it keeps switching away from it, then that car had a terrible connection and was warping all over the place. Dave Casey Casey94 (TEN)

Nope. that may be true, but the phenomonen I described has been the rule for every warp free LAN race I've run as a client (about 100 from N2 thru N3). It also "just makes sense" You are undoubtedly correct that warp will cause the same effect, but negating warp still leaves only a window of cars within 'range' of your own that you can view. When a car moves out of that window (every lap when your car is out of commission in the pits and the field is still running) you see exactly what Brad Rosenbaum describes. Also, what kind of quote is "I have the same problem. Jim" ? I never said that. Please tell me you didn't fabricate that to simplify your reply. Thanks, Jim Burlis

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>>I have this same problem. >>Jim >>>I have a question about watching replays during a >>>multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as >>>the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch >>>views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other >>>car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps >>>scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok >>>(in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. >>>Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to >>>different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something >>>that I am doing wrong?? >It's called warp folks. When a car disappears on the track during a race it >disappears from the replay too. Replay switches to another car that is on the >track, most likely the pace car sitting in the pits. If you keep trying to >watch one particular car and it keeps switching away from it, then that car >had a terrible connection and was warping all over the place. >Dave Casey >Casey94 (TEN)

**************************************************** I'm at jburlis at mail dot postnet dot com

Its part of the protocol. Remember the original bandwidth target was 9600 baud. To meet that target the client isn't constantly updated on the locations for EVERY car, only a select few ahead and behind. The host's replay however (without warping) should have every car at all times. Jim Burlis wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>Nope. > >that may be true, but the phenomonen I described has been the rule for >every warp free LAN race I've run as a client (about 100 from N2 thru >N3). > >It also "just makes sense" > >You are undoubtedly correct that warp will cause the same effect, but >negating warp still leaves only a window of cars within 'range' of >your own that you can view. When a car moves out of that window (every >lap when your car is out of commission in the pits and the field is >still running) you see exactly what Brad Rosenbaum describes. > >Also, what kind of quote is >"I have the same problem. >Jim" >? > >I never said that. Please tell me you didn't fabricate that to >simplify your reply. > >Thanks, > >Jim Burlis > > >On Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:34:53 GMT, [email hidden] (Dave >Casey) wrote: > >>>I have this same problem. >>>Jim >>> >>>Brad Rosenbaum wrote in message <7t1ile$[email hidden]>... >>>>I have a question about watching replays during a >>>>multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as >>>>the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch >>>>views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other >>>>car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps >>>>scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok >>>>(in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. >>>>Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to >>>>different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something >>>>that I am doing wrong?? >> >>It's called warp folks. When a car disappears on the track during a race

it >>disappears from the replay too. Replay switches to another car that is onthe >>track, most likely the pace car sitting in the pits. If you keep tryingto >>watch one particular car and it keeps switching away from it, then thatcar

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>>had a terrible connection and was warping all over the place. >> >> >>Dave Casey >>Casey94 (TEN) > >**************************************************** >I'm at jburlis at mail dot postnet dot com

I used to have this problem in N1 and N2. I think it's due to warping. When the car gets whacked for a moment from your perspective, you lose it in the replay, also. JMG

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> I have this same problem. > Jim > >I have a question about watching replays during a > >multiplayer event. It seems that I cannot watch other cars as > >the manual says. When I switch to a different car, it will switch > >views, but only for a minute. Then it will switch to some other > >car. After a few seconds it will switch again. It just keeps > >scrolling through different cars. I can switch views ok > >(in car, chase, etc...), but I can't keep it on a particular car. > >Also the arrow keys (next, prev) for switching the view to > >different cars does not seem to work either. Is there something > >that I am doing wrong?? > >Brad Rosenbaum