Logi Formula Force & N3 - disappointing effects?

I picked up the Logitech Formula Force last night, and I was pumped to try it in N3, since the force fx were excellent with my MS FF stick. While the car was definitely easier to drive with the wheel, the force fx were disappointing. There was a period of several minutes where I even wondered if FF were even turned on at all. Is there any way to increase the force fx in N3? In my win98 control panel, all the force sliders are set to 100%, and the test fx are great. Also the fx in my other games are far better than N3. jeff

you don't have the latest Logitech drivers installed. The new driver (v3.25 I believe) for one thing allows you to set forces up to 150%. Jan. PS: you can check for a new driver update from within the profiler: It'll check automatically on the Logitech site whether you're up to date! J.H.Hovius.vcf < 1K Download

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> I picked up the Logitech Formula Force last night, and I was pumped to try > it in N3, since the force fx were excellent with my MS FF stick. While the > car was definitely easier to drive with the wheel, the force fx were > disappointing. There was a period of several minutes where I even wondered > if FF were even turned on at all. > Is there any way to increase the force fx in N3? In my win98 control panel, > all the force sliders are set to 100%, and the test fx are great. Also the > fx in my other games are far better than N3. > jeff

You need to change the .ini file settings. Check the readme.txt for N3 to tell you how to do this. Ligitech is a great wheel, just dosn't have the same FF feel in N3 as say...... Viper..... Hitch-Hiker

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>I picked up the Logitech Formula Force last night, and I was pumped to try >it in N3, since the force fx were excellent with my MS FF stick. While the >car was definitely easier to drive with the wheel, the force fx were >disappointing. There was a period of several minutes where I even wondered >if FF were even turned on at all. >Is there any way to increase the force fx in N3? In my win98 control panel, >all the force sliders are set to 100%, and the test fx are great. Also the >fx in my other games are far better than N3.

Be sure to select the UPGRADE SOFTWARE option in the Logitech START menu. You need version 3.20. Then you can crank everything up to 150%. I have Overall and dampening set to 130% while spring is set to 100%. I should point out that Nascar cars have power steering. So the real cars may not have as much force as you might otherwise think. I find the effects with the Logitech wheel to be among the very best. Second only to GPL. -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

So if the power steering pump goes, you should have to really work the wheel :-D Just thinking out loud, I doubt if they implemented it. Jason.

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> I should point out that Nascar cars have power steering. So the > real cars may not have as much force as you might otherwise think. > I find the effects with the Logitech wheel to be among the very best. > Second only to GPL. > -- > Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. > cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

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This is some info on force feedback settings taken from the readme file of Nascar3 FORCE FEEDBACK VARIABLES Users with force feedback devices can tune the forces by adding the following two variables to their N3.INI: FORCE_SCALE_PERCENT n FORCE_DAMPING_PERCENT n Both can be set to the range of 0-200 and will scale the existing parameters accordingly. Force Scale is used to determine how strong a force is, and can be used to try to adjust the amount of force the game provides. Force Damping is a factor in determining how much resistance the wheel provides to turning. It would primarily be used to decrease the tendency of a wheel to oscillate under certain conditions. Jim

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>>I picked up the Logitech Formula Force last night, and I was pumped to try >>it in N3, since the force fx were excellent with my MS FF stick. While the >>car was definitely easier to drive with the wheel, the force fx were >>disappointing. There was a period of several minutes where I even wondered >>if FF were even turned on at all. >>Is there any way to increase the force fx in N3? In my win98 control

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>>all the force sliders are set to 100%, and the test fx are great. Also the >>fx in my other games are far better than N3. >Be sure to select the UPGRADE SOFTWARE option in the Logitech >START menu. You need version 3.20. Then you can crank everything >up to 150%. I have Overall and dampening set to 130% while spring >is set to 100%. >I should point out that Nascar cars have power steering. So the >real cars may not have as much force as you might otherwise think. >I find the effects with the Logitech wheel to be among the very best. >Second only to GPL. >-- >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

Thanks. My wheel was fresh from the factory I guess, because it came with the 3.25 drivers. It also has a USB connector (which I'm using) and I understand some of the previous Logi FF wheels shipped without USB capability. Anyway, thanks to you and all who provided info.