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RC2000 updated demo thoughts

3 posts by 3 people · 30 Sep 1999 - 30 Sep 1999

Bendito 30 Sep 1999#496450
Hi, Well, I tried out the updated Moon-and-Star demo of Rally Championship 2000. Compared to the "alpha" demo I noticed only minor changes (mostly interface and setup). The physics model is still sorely lacking. Collisional and off-track physics are almost non-existent, while on-track it seems very inconsistent and unnatural. From memory it seems about as good as Need For Speed in this respect. Everything else about the game is excellent, so if you're looking for an arcade rally car game, then this one is it. Marko;
Rexv 30 Sep 1999#496451
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:58:20 +1000, Marko Peric
Quoted text (10 lines)>Hi, > Well, I tried out the updated Moon-and-Star demo of Rally >Championship 2000. Compared to the "alpha" demo I noticed only minor >changes (mostly interface and setup). The physics model is still sorely >lacking. Collisional and off-track physics are almost non-existent, >while on-track it seems very inconsistent and unnatural. From memory it >seems about as good as Need For Speed in this respect. Everything else >about the game is excellent, so if you're looking for an arcade rally >car game, then this one is it.
I just posted my thoughts on it prior to finding this one. (see New Rally 2000 Demo above). I have not played the previous demo nor any current variations of Need for Speed so those I can't comment on. The collisional and off track effects are indeed sorely lacking. If a car hits a tree at 100+mph the tree is taken for a ride along with the car.. not instant stop and drive around. The sounds also get me.. what is that sound when you are on the grass? It reminds me of a waterfall or something.. Are not rally cars a bit higher off the ground than normal cars and thus should be able to cruise over grass with nearly the same speeds as they would on regular roads? Especially the AWD versions??? I wonder when the GPL physics for Rally 2k discussion will start.. <grin> I know they would never blend, nevermind the different companies but this one at least has the eye candy that other games haven't.. but now it needs something to round out the package a bit. Better controller interface and better driving physics would go a LONG way to improve this game. Again, I look very forward to the next updates. ____________________ Never be afraid to try something new. Remember: Amateurs built the Ark, Professionals built the Titanic!
Jo B 30 Sep 1999#496452
I've combined some Rexven quotes, because they are spot on: these 3 things are EXACTLY my thoughts and ruin the game completely. And because this is the updated demo, I have no hopes left for the final game. > If you have a wheel or a joystick the responses are WAY to fast. > I tried dulling them down and ended up with a dead center then instant snap. Indeed very awfull. In Nascar 3 or even NFS there is a certain lag when you turn the wheel, which gives and idea of weight (to put it simple). This sensitive control makes me feel I'm moving pretty pictures around the screen, not driving a rally car. You can't really steer the car, you only make adjustments, aim in a certain direction, hoping you'll stay on the road. It's the very old 'moving-the-road-instead-of-the-car' feeling... And it's not only the sounds themselves, it's also the way they are programmed: I bumped into a tree (and came to a very sudden unrealistic halt). As soon as I hit the gas, even a little, the 'grass-wav' was played at full volume! So there I was, standing still, and mixing my own *** dance hit with the rhytmic movement of my gas pedal. Yikes! Also when you go from grass to tarmac or something, the sound changes too abrupt. And the 'sound' of the surface is MUCH more apparent than that of the car. After a few minutes it really gets on my nerves. After trying it a few times I just couldn't get myslef to drive the long old demo once more. It was all too irritating. This new demo is more than enough too. I think (I know) I'll pass this one. Never mind the HIGHLY irritating box-talk about 'never seen before features' (none of which are new at all!) Europress is great at creating a hype (just as they did with the previous crappy rally game), not at making games. Yak. :-( C'mon Colin McRae Rally 2!!! Jeroen

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