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GPL patches & understeer?

7 posts by 6 people · 30 Sep 1999 - 02 Oct 1999

Guys, let me say that this may be me....and driving too little GPL lately :) But -. after the 03 patch and the new ride height, I had serious probs with understeer in the sense that the car "washes out" sideways. Especcially in high speed corners - like Woodcote at Silverstone. If you enter at the limit, you could usually control it on the gas, and correct it. Now I feel like it doesn't help to give it full whack on the gas or a heave of lock on the wheel, it only seems to help if I slow down. Tried a lot of setups, but get the same result. I used to be able to turn in, and balance the tail out nicely on the throttle, now I only get push, then too much oversteer, and when I let up to give some grip back to the front, the front yaws around as if there were a set of small wheels or a mechanic's board stuck under the car. Hmmm, maybe this is my problem? Tried both the Ferrari and the Lotus.... Any thoughts? Can't wait to give 1.2 a whizz online, though! :-) Matt -- --------------------------------- Matthew B. Knutsen The GPL Preservation Society http://www.gpl.netti.nu -- GPLEA Member -- Cheek Racing Cars; http://www.cheekracing.electra.no
Andrew Olle 30 Sep 1999#496421
Making your excuses for our little hotlap comp already eh Matt? tsk tsk
Hi Matt, Yes, with the taller rideheight the cars understeers a lot more than with lower ride. I find that you totally have to change your set-ups to make the car work. All my "hotlaps" are are actually with 1.1 and I find that I'm actually a little bit quicker than with the lower-ride height. If you want, I'll send you some 'tall" setups and give them a do. Though few tips: - If you want the back to be loser, then give the back more positive toe at the back. Also, raise the rear tyre pressure (lower front if youy need to). -Another thing, if your back is coming around under braking than it is because of your spring/height/damper settings (brake bias needs to be further front now). The Dampers make a huge difference now as far as the stability under braking goes. Do you want my setups? Regards, David Mocnay
Quoted text (23 lines)>Guys, let me say that this may be me....and driving too little GPL >lately :) >But -. after the 03 patch and the new ride height, I had serious probs >with understeer in the sense that the car "washes out" sideways. >Especcially in high speed corners - like Woodcote at Silverstone. If you >enter at the limit, you could usually control it on the gas, and correct >it. Now I feel like it doesn't help to give it full whack on the gas or >a heave of lock on the wheel, it only seems to help if I slow down. >Tried a lot of setups, but get the same result. I used to be able to >turn in, and balance the tail out nicely on the throttle, now I only get >push, then too much oversteer, and when I let up to give some grip back >to the front, the front yaws around as if there were a set of small >wheels or a mechanic's board stuck under the car. Hmmm, maybe this is my >problem? >Tried both the Ferrari and the Lotus.... >Any thoughts? >Can't wait to give 1.2 a whizz online, though! :-) >Matt
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:16:14 +0200, Matthew Birger Knutsen >Guys, let me say that this may be me....and driving too little GPL >lately :) <snip> >Any thoughts? I had that same understeer when I first tried the US patch. I tried the Ferrari at Monaco and I was getting bad understeer through the tunnel and T1. I tried playing around with the setup and that cured it. Then I quit the game and changed some settings in core.ini went back and tried Kyalami with my old 1.1 setup. The car felt perfectly normal. I changed all the values in core.ini back to their old values and tried again. The handling was normal. Have to try Monaca again tomorrow. I suspect that it might've been my setup, it was a little "pushy" before but not by that much. Well, maybe I was just imagining things because the car felt normal at Kyalami. :) It's great! We had 20-player field in Finnish GPL Championship practise race and it was really smooth! No warping at all and with the new synch method the collision detection is so much better. I thought we were racing on LAN. :) -- Greger Huttu
Quoted text (16 lines)> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:16:14 +0200, Matthew Birger Knutsen > >Guys, let me say that this may be me....and driving too little GPL > >lately :) > <snip> > >Any thoughts? > I had that same understeer when I first tried the US patch. I tried > the Ferrari at Monaco and I was getting bad understeer through the > tunnel and T1. I tried playing around with the setup and that cured > it. Then I quit the game and changed some settings in core.ini went > back and tried Kyalami with my old 1.1 setup. The car felt perfectly > normal. I changed all the values in core.ini back to their old values > and tried again. The handling was normal.
Could you please fill us in in more detail what changes you did in core.ini that resulted with better handling ? I gave the 1.2 a try yesterday and I didn't notice any difference in the handling. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
Quoted text (13 lines)>> I had that same understeer when I first tried the US patch. I tried >> the Ferrari at Monaco and I was getting bad understeer through the >> tunnel and T1. I tried playing around with the setup and that cured >> it. Then I quit the game and changed some settings in core.ini went >> back and tried Kyalami with my old 1.1 setup. The car felt perfectly >> normal. I changed all the values in core.ini back to their old values >> and tried again. The handling was normal. >Could you please fill us in in more detail what changes you did in core.ini >that resulted with better handling ? >I gave the 1.2 a try yesterday and I didn't notice any difference in the >handling.
I don't think that those changes affected the handling because I changed them back to normal and it felt the same. But I tried enabling and disabling the steer_ratio. I don't know if that works in 1.2 anymore because I didn't notice a difference. Then I tried changing the synch_method, that shouldn't affect single player but you never know (especially after the 1.1 patch). As I said, after tweaking with them I changed them back to normal and there was no difference. -- Greger Huttu

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