what road circuits in GPL have nice long straights?

Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with GPL. Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead!

Is there a Paul Ricard for GPL? Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kV_sb.52527$Ws6.28807@edtnps84... > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with GPL. > Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead! > >

Is there a Paul Ricard for GPL? Ash [link lost in import]

Rich wrote in news:kV_sb.52527$Ws6.28807@edtnps84: > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes > with GPL. Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead! > > I'd go to the GPL Track Database and just work my way through the tracks, looking at the maps. There's that track in East Germany -- Avus? -- that is nothing but a long straight, hairpin corner, and a long straight back again to another hairpin. http://magnust.d2g.com/ HTH, -- Darryl

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> Rich wrote in news:kV_sb.52527$Ws6.28807@edtnps84: > > > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes > > with GPL. Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead! > > > > > > I'd go to the GPL Track Database and just work my way through the > tracks, looking at the maps. There's that track in East Germany -- > Avus? -- that is nothing but a long straight, hairpin corner, and a > long straight back again to another hairpin. > > http://magnust.d2g.com/ > > HTH, > -- > Darryl

oops I forgot to mention I have that one too. Its hard to judge by those maps how long the straights are because their scales are not always entirely accurate. Download, trial and error I guess. I haven't had a lot of success trying to keep up with the AI cars unless I'm drafting, and I was wondering whether this is normal. I could draft @220mph in a Weslake Eagle but if I fell out of it I could only manage about 204 using the available setups. How do those AI cars go so fast? Anyone?

"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xi8tb.60753$Ws6.6807@edtnps84... > > I haven't had a lot of success trying to keep up with the AI cars unlessI'm > drafting, and I was wondering whether this is normal. > I could draft @220mph in a Weslake Eagle but if I fell out of it I could > only manage about 204 using the available setups. > How do those AI cars go so fast? Anyone? The gpl AI don't use the same physics model that you do, and their top speed is determined by the 'hype' not the car's ability. The best I can recall managing was 209mph at Milano in a Honda while slipstreaming (drafting) an Eagle. Actually that's not quite true, I've gone faster in a Bronda at Spa, but it wasn't in a race (or even a draft ;-)) Malc.

"Rich" wrote... > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and > what comes with GPL. Looking for suggestions on others. > Thanks ahead! Off the top of my head I'd list Anderstorp, Snetterton67, Riverside, Zeltweg, Grenslandring, Bathurst and Chimay (has thread the needle chicanes in the longest sides of the rectangle, though) as having decent sized straights. But the daddy of GPL straights has got to be the back straight at Solitude with its "dont blink", absolutely flat in 5th hump/kink and sphincter cramp inducing brakingzone for Schatten at the end. A straight which seperates the men from the boys, IMO. Jan. =---

Try an oval. Just when you think you're done, you're back where you started! -Larry "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kV_sb.52527$Ws6.28807@edtnps84... > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with GPL. > Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead! > >

Rich wrote: > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with GPL. > Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead! Ridgehill (you should definitely try Ridgehill!), Buenos Aires 67 (# 15), VIR (Virginia), Dessauer, Salzburgring is great fun too. Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -16)

Reims, Le Mans "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kV_sb.52527$Ws6.28807@edtnps84... > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with GPL. > Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead! > >

"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<Xi8tb.60753$Ws6.6807@edtnps84>... > Its hard to judge by those maps how long the straights are because their > scales are not always entirely accurate. > Download, trial and error I guess. All tracks have their lenghts displayed too so the map plus that should give you a decent idea :-) You can actually sort your results on track length too.. Cheers! /Magnus T - - - - GPL Track Database - - - http://magnust.d2g.com - - - -

Steve Smith wrote: Um, Steve, you might wanna read your answer again (and/or use the really big font type for geezers, grin ;) Regards, Rudy > Reims, Le Mans > > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with GPL.

Oopsies, sorry, didn't see that. Shoulda, woulda, dint. I was wondering why the obvious weren't there. (And what abt. Avus, or do I have to go back and read 'em all over again.) BTW, the fastest Vmax I ever saw recorded @ Mulsanne was ca. 547 mph in a hot-rodded BRM. "Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bp6639$slu$[email hidden]...

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> Steve Smith wrote: > > Um, Steve, you might wanna read your answer again (and/or use the > really big font type for geezers, grin ;) > > Regards, Rudy > > > > Reims, Le Mans > > > > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with

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Steve Smith wrote: > BTW, the fastest Vmax I ever saw recorded @ Mulsanne was ca. 547 mph in a > hot-rodded BRM. ?!? Erm, and you were smoking what exactly at the time? <g> Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -16)

Send me yer addy and I'll send you the replay. Better yet, send me some of Amsterdam's finest, and I'll send you the hack. [Just KIDDING, Mr. Ashcroft!] "Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bp6huo$mn9$[email hidden]... > Steve Smith wrote: > > BTW, the fastest Vmax I ever saw recorded @ Mulsanne was ca. 547 mph ina

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> > hot-rodded BRM. > > ?!? Erm, and you were smoking what exactly at the time? <g> > > Regards, Rudy > (GPLRank -16) >

Steve Smith wrote: >>>BTW, the fastest Vmax I ever saw recorded @ Mulsanne was ca. 547 mph in > Send me yer addy and I'll send you the replay. Better yet, send me some of > Amsterdam's finest, and I'll send you the hack. Amsterdam's finest? Hmmm... Ok! <Dumps a truckload of Ajax footie hooligans on Steve's doorstep, who, not used to such ungentlemanly treatment, start gnarling and looking for the nearest person to turn into a vegetable - Oh look, looks like they've found out how to take out Steve's doorhandle already> <G> Well, you DID ask for it... I'm from Tilburg in the Deep South, btw! ;) Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -16)

In article <d_Ltb.112549$[email hidden]>, "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> writes: >Send me yer addy and I'll send you the replay. Better yet, send me some of >Amsterdam's finest, and I'll send you the hack. [Just KIDDING, Mr. >Ashcroft!] > No worries Steve, we're in a grace period right now, anything goes. Ashcroft has the entire Justice Department concentrating on sending Tommy Chong to jail for selling rolling papers. Don McCorkle

In article <kV_sb.52527$Ws6.28807@edtnps84>, [email hidden] (Rich) wrote: > Already have leMans, Bloodbath, Reims, Hockenheim and what comes with > GPL. > Looking for suggestions on others. Thanks ahead! Bathurst (Mount Panarama) - long back straight Isle of Man TT circuit Avus - two v.long straights! I seem to remember that Glacier (sp?) also has a long straight? 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~pjgtech/home.html

In article <zz9tb.23277$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >But the daddy of GPL straights has got to be the back straight at Solitude >with its "dont blink", absolutely flat in 5th hump/kink and sphincter cramp >inducing brakingzone for Schatten at the end. A straight which seperates the >men from the boys, IMO. Flat in 5th?!? I guess I'll go play outside with the rest of the boys...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <zz9tb.23277$[email hidden]>, "Jan > Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: > >>But the daddy of GPL straights has got to be the back straight at >>Solitude with its "dont blink", absolutely flat in 5th hump/kink >>and sphincter cramp inducing brakingzone for Schatten at the end. >>A straight which seperates the men from the boys, IMO. > > Flat in 5th?!? > I guess I'll go play outside with the rest of the boys...<g> > > Eldred

Not sure if I'm "flat out" in 5th, but I am in 5th and motoring along pretty good. About 25% of the time I end off in the trees at the right, but if you get it right.... Now, Masta is still just a conundrum for me. I have yet to get the right approach that will let me go through there at speed with any sort of confidence. -- Darryl

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>Not sure if I'm "flat out" in 5th, but I am in 5th and motoring along >pretty good. About 25% of the time I end off in the trees at the >right, but if you get it right.... > >Now, Masta is still just a conundrum for me. I have yet to get the >right approach that will let me go through there at speed with any >sort of confidence.

Masta I can do fairly confidently, as long as I can see the track well. The Monaco chicane is *my* nemesis. Although, I just finished a race there Sunday without crashing there. Maybe I'm getting better? Nah...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Not sure if I'm "flat out" in 5th, but I am in 5th and motoring along > pretty good. About 25% of the time I end off in the trees at the > right, but if you get it right.... > > Now, Masta is still just a conundrum for me. I have yet to get the > right approach that will let me go through there at speed with any > sort of confidence.

Easy (sort of). In the Eagle (I use Peter Jensen's stable setups) just lift a bit past the last brake marker, and at the same time, steer in, and smoothly put on throttle again. Stay LEFT LEFT in this first bit, until your focus shifts to the armco barrier on the right. Then I just whack the weel all the way to the right and keep it there until I'm sure I'm gonna make it past the frietkot (that's the french fries bar on the left where we all do regular interior redesign with F1 cars flying into the living at full speed...) and straighten out. Well, helps me nearly always make the turn, anyway... Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -18)

EldredP wrote: > Masta I can do fairly confidently, as long as I can see the track well. The > Monaco chicane is *my* nemesis. Although, I just finished a race there Sunday > without crashing there. Maybe I'm getting better? Nah...<g> If you finished a race at Monaco you're way better than ME..! :) I found out two things about the Monaco chicane though, let's see if it's the same for others: - you *need* to be on the lefthand side entering it, one wheel on the (pink) pavement usually. Otherwise, it's crunch time. - you *need* to aim right through it without steering at all. If you steer while in or near it, your rear end gets unstable (especially since it's in the air a lot due to those darn bumps) and it's crunch time again. (- and if you make it, you're in extreme danger of being so relieved that you're miss your braking point and crash right out of Tabac ;) Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -18)

In article <bqc896$qb9$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> writes: >If you finished a race at Monaco you're way better than ME..! :) I've actually finished SEVERAL. :-) > >I found out two things about the Monaco chicane though, let's see if >it's the same for others: > >- you *need* to be on the lefthand side entering it, one wheel on the >(pink) pavement usually. Otherwise, it's crunch time. I don't think I was all the way on the left. I'd barely clip the curb on the left, but I couldn't run as close as others seem to. If I do, the car wants to hit the left wall on exit. I don't see how guys can be farther over that curb, as fast as they are, and *still* keep it off the left wall. Doesn't seem possible. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Member Screamers Racing League IICC League GPLRank -2.4 MoGPL rank +302.38 ChallengeRank +54.48 MoC +743.77 Hist. +82.82 MoH in progress N2k3 rank:in progress Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <bqc896$qb9$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >If you finished a race at Monaco you're way better than ME..! :) > > I've actually finished SEVERAL. :-) >

I have actually won a league race (IGPS/1) there. Tony Rickard and Graeme Nash were right on my ass coming out of the hairpin on the final lap, too. That was one of the most fun races in which I ever participated in GPL.

Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bqc896$qb9$[email hidden]: > I found out two things about the Monaco chicane though, let's see if > it's the same for others: > > - you *need* to be on the lefthand side entering it, one wheel on the > (pink) pavement usually. Otherwise, it's crunch time.Aliens... entering on the left and riding the curb in addition to it! I may survive riding the curb on the right side, but not on the left. And anyway I prefer not to ride the curb at all and just enter from the right side. > > - you *need* to aim right through it without steering at all. If you > steer while in or near it, your rear end gets unstable (especially > since it's in the air a lot due to those darn bumps) and it's crunch > time again. Actually, it's a simple straight with a bump in the middle, though it's well camouflaged as a chicane :-) Alex.

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> > <snip> > I have actually won a league race (IGPS/1) there. Tony > Rickard and Graeme Nash were right on my ass coming out > of the hairpin on the final lap, too. > > That was one of the most fun races in which I ever > participated in GPL.

Rickard is indeed very quick and consistent there. Last season in MARA-E, I got the drop on him at the start and managed to hold him off to the finish. That was a loooong race!! ;-) Jan. =---

Late reply, missed it first time around, sorry. "EldredP" wrote... > > <snip> > Flat in 5th?!? Yeah, well, obviously this a qualifying only thing and one does lift to prevent an overrev when the rear wheels momentarily get airborne, but basically, yes, flat in 5th. Keep your foot in it, aim to cut it slightly (just noticed apex is blind as well <g>) and burp the throttle as the car "sails" over the hump (wouldn't call it a jump). I think it's possible to keep one's foot buried all the way, but you will bang it off the rev limiter when you do. I've put an example here... http://users.skynet.be/bs175993/backstretch.rpy You'll note I'm about a tyre-width wide (left front should hover over verge), but I still make it with plenty to spare. > I guess I'll go play outside with the rest of > the boys...<g> Observe chickenshit braking for Schatten in above replay ;-)... 'cos that's the scary part. The hump is basically setup and a bit of confidence in the car. Jan. =---