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GP500 Full version out!

22 posts by 14 people · 27 Sep 1999 - 22 Oct 1999

GP500 frame rate problems and real bike sounds

A buyer of the full GP500 release reported unplayable frame rates on a P3-450 with a Voodoo3, and others suggested disabling force feedback and checking sound settings. The thread soon turned into motorcyclists comparing the sounds of two-stroke GP bikes, inline fours, Ducati twins and V4s.

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TRUSRS85 27 Sep 1999#495644
I got GP500 today and the framerate is terrible on my puppy. p3-450, voodoo 3 2000 128 mb ram blah blah it's so bad that it's unplayable any ideas?
You have FF? It works good on a PII 300mhz without FF. Try getting the newest drivers from the people that designed the product or try turning off FF to see if it works better now. -- Kenneth Verburg Webmaster/Editor-in-chief High Gear http://www.simracingnews.com
I've visited the Marlboro Masters where Max drove his Yamaha, I think the sound is spot on. Those bikes just don't make a lot of noise.
Mark C Dod 27 Sep 1999#495647
With a full field of 24 bikes at max graphics level I get over 45FPS ona Voodoo 2 SLI, P3 450 setup. The cullprit for the slow frame rate is usually one of two things. 1) Have you enabled force feedback? 2) What sound card are you using what settings have you set it too. > I got GP500 today and the framerate is terrible on my puppy. p3-450, voodoo 3 > 2000 128 mb ram blah blah > it's so bad that it's unplayable > any ideas?
TRUSRS85 27 Sep 1999#495649
No FF here TM Nascar pro wheel SB Live Value everything is set accordingly to my system specs. Yet AMA runs flawlessly
Quoted text (19 lines)>With a full field of 24 bikes at max graphics level I get over 45FPS ona >Voodoo 2 >SLI, P3 450 setup. The cullprit for the slow frame rate is usually one of two >things. >1) Have you enabled force feedback? >2) What sound card are you using what settings have you set it too. >> I got GP500 today and the framerate is terrible on my puppy. p3-450, voodoo >3 >> 2000 128 mb ram blah blah >> it's so bad that it's unplayable >> any ideas?
I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison to my 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. However, I have ridden 2-stroke dirtbikes all my life and have also ridden the old Yamaha RZ350 (2-stroke street bike) and I know they could have done better.....MUCH better. At the very least they could have sampled a real engine instead of the swarm of bees sound they chose. Even Motocross Madness had a better 2-stroke sound. At least it was a real sampled sound and had that true 2-stroke pipey sound to it. Oh well...maybe one of you guys will figure out how to extract their sounds and add in our own new ones similar to how people have reverse engineered GPL, N2, ICR2 etc etc. Chris
Mike 28 Sep 1999#495882
Eh this must be a typo?? ;-) Mike
Doug Hillma 28 Sep 1999#495883
> > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison to > my > > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. > Eh this must be a typo?? > ;-) > Mike He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore 4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even come close to the audio thrill. dsh
Thanks for clearing that up Doug.....couldn't have said it better myself! Chris
Quoted text (15 lines)> > > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison > to > > my > > > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. > > Eh this must be a typo?? > > ;-) > > Mike > He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore > 4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the > whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even > come close to the audio thrill. > dsh
Doug Hillma 28 Sep 1999#495885
Heheh. I've got a Katana with a worked GSXR motor in it, running through a Kerker race pipe. I've got a handful of other bikes also, both race & street. That Kat though is my favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. Other than maybe a pack of similar beasts blasting down the back straight. :) Doug
Mike 29 Sep 1999#496112
Well I have heard both ;-) Some like the revs, I wouldnt call the repsol whiney though. Although yes my F3 above 12K sounds good too -- Mike www.aloha.net/~flying sorry about the fake reply address < Tired of Spam> real folks can e-mail me at flying<at>aloha<dot>net > > > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison > to > > my > > > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. > > Eh this must be a typo?? > > ;-) > > Mike > He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore > 4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the > whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even > come close to the audio thrill. > dsh
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison > to > > my > > > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. > > Eh this must be a typo?? > > ;-) > > Mike > He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore > 4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the > whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even > come close to the audio thrill.
have you heard a two-stroke racer in RL? just curious. 'coz where I come from three of these bikes warming up would mask the sound of an entire Superbike-field 0.5 seconds before the flag drips. -- Gunnar -- '98 Super Primerbird '92 G00F2 #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo: 2 de vakreste ord p? jord: saldo i Deres fav?r
> > Thanks for clearing that up Doug.....couldn't have said it better myself!
Quoted text (8 lines)> Heheh. I've got a Katana with a worked GSXR motor in > it, running through a Kerker race pipe. I've got a handful of > other bikes also, both race & street. That Kat though is my > favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor > blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical > motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. > Other than maybe a pack of similar beasts blasting down the > back straight. :)
You should hear my ZZ-R 1100 with a Yoshimura race pipe :) Hena
Bj.O.rn 29 Sep 1999#496115
> favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor > blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical > motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-) /Bj.O.rn, SDK #1225
Doug Hillma 29 Sep 1999#496116
> > favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor > > blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical > > motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. > My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-) While I do love the distinctive sound of those twins, they just don't SCREAM to me like a 4 does. I will admit though, that a Ducati is next in line on my bike purchasing list. I think I might go with a used Monster though. If I'm gonna pay more to go slower than an equal displacement Japanese bike, I might as well get something a little different. ;) -dobe-
Doug Hillma 29 Sep 1999#496117
Yep, plenty of times. And closer than most folks have, I'd imagine. Louder doesn't equal better. :) -dobe-
don hodgdon 29 Sep 1999#496118
I love my inline 4s for their reliability and smoothness, but whenever I pull in behind a Duc at speed I still get chills. The Italians still produce the finest sounding machines on two wheels or four. don [|]-(_)-[|]
Quoted text (7 lines)>> favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor >> blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical >> motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. >My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-) >/Bj.O.rn, SDK #1225
>> My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-) > While I do love the distinctive sound of those twins, they >just don't SCREAM to me like a 4 does. > -dobe- They all sound great, but my favorite is my 86 VFR750 Honda. It has that V8 rumble that the RC30s lost with there crank configuration. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
Mike 30 Sep 1999#496402
V8 *would* be a rumble on a bike ;-) I agree though typo aside the V4 has that straight cut gear whir.
Andrew See 14 Oct 1999 01:11 UTC#292513
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:27:04 +0200, "Harjan Brand" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I've visited the Marlboro Masters where Max drove his Yamaha, I think the >sound is spot on. Those bikes just don't make a lot of noise. Thats right, they are 2 strokes, and each of the 4 cylinders is only 125cc each. They are not going to sound like a Harley, or a Superbike.
Jesse San 22 Oct 1999#498678
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:10:30 +0300, "Hena Hakkanen"
Quoted text (15 lines)>> > Thanks for clearing that up Doug.....couldn't have said it better >myself! >> Heheh. I've got a Katana with a worked GSXR motor in >> it, running through a Kerker race pipe. I've got a handful of >> other bikes also, both race & street. That Kat though is my >> favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor >> blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical >> motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. >> Other than maybe a pack of similar beasts blasting down the >> back straight. :) >You should hear my ZZ-R 1100 with a Yoshimura race pipe :) >Hena
Or mine with a Micron race pipe...a lot throatier than the Gixxers. Jesse Spam filter: remove bob to reply

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