I got GP500 today and the framerate is terrible on my puppy. p3-450, voodoo 3
2000 128 mb ram blah blah
it's so bad that it's unplayable
any ideas?
GP500 frame rate problems and real bike sounds
A buyer of the full GP500 release reported unplayable frame rates on a P3-450 with a Voodoo3, and others suggested disabling force feedback and checking sound settings. The thread soon turned into motorcyclists comparing the sounds of two-stroke GP bikes, inline fours, Ducati twins and V4s.
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I've visited the Marlboro Masters where Max drove his Yamaha, I think the
sound is spot on. Those bikes just don't make a lot of noise.
With a full field of 24 bikes at max graphics level I get over 45FPS ona Voodoo 2
SLI, P3 450 setup. The cullprit for the slow frame rate is usually one of two
things.
1) Have you enabled force feedback?
2) What sound card are you using what settings have you set it too.
> I got GP500 today and the framerate is terrible on my puppy. p3-450, voodoo 3
> 2000 128 mb ram blah blah
> it's so bad that it's unplayable
> any ideas?
Thrustmaster Nascar Pro here
No FF here
TM Nascar pro wheel
SB Live Value everything is set accordingly to my system specs. Yet AMA
runs flawlessly
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>With a full field of 24 bikes at max graphics level I get over 45FPS ona >Voodoo 2 >SLI, P3 450 setup. The cullprit for the slow frame rate is usually one of two >things. >1) Have you enabled force feedback? >2) What sound card are you using what settings have you set it too. >> I got GP500 today and the framerate is terrible on my puppy. p3-450, voodoo >3 >> 2000 128 mb ram blah blah >> it's so bad that it's unplayable >> any ideas?I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison to my
600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. However, I have
ridden 2-stroke dirtbikes all my life and have also ridden the old Yamaha
RZ350 (2-stroke street bike) and I know they could have done better.....MUCH
better. At the very least they could have sampled a real engine instead of
the swarm of bees sound they chose. Even Motocross Madness had a better
2-stroke sound. At least it was a real sampled sound and had that true
2-stroke pipey sound to it. Oh well...maybe one of you guys will figure out
how to extract their sounds and add in our own new ones similar to how
people have reverse engineered GPL, N2, ICR2 etc etc.
Chris
Eh this must be a typo??
;-)
Mike
> > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison to
> my
> > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter.
> Eh this must be a typo??
> ;-)
> Mike
He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore
4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the
whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even
come close to the audio thrill.
dsh
Thanks for clearing that up Doug.....couldn't have said it better myself!
Chris
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> > > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison > to > > my > > > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. > > Eh this must be a typo?? > > ;-) > > Mike > He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore > 4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the > whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even > come close to the audio thrill. > dshHeheh. I've got a Katana with a worked GSXR motor in
it, running through a Kerker race pipe. I've got a handful of
other bikes also, both race & street. That Kat though is my
favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor
blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical
motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better.
Other than maybe a pack of similar beasts blasting down the
back straight. :)
Doug
Well I have heard both ;-)
Some like the revs, I wouldnt call the repsol whiney though.
Although yes my F3 above 12K sounds good too
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> > > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in
comparison
> to
> > my
> > > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter.
> > Eh this must be a typo??
> > ;-)
> > Mike
> He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore
> 4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the
> whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even
> come close to the audio thrill.
> dsh
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> > > I don't disagree that a 500cc 2-stroke GP bike will pale in comparison > to > > my > > > 600cc 4 stroke or any AMA superbike for that matter. > > Eh this must be a typo?? > > ;-) > > Mike > He's talking about the sound. And if you've heard full bore > 4-strokes through a racing pipe, you'll agree that the > whiney sound of a two-stroke (even a GP bike) doesn't even > come close to the audio thrill.> > Thanks for clearing that up Doug.....couldn't have said it better myself!
You should hear my ZZ-R 1100 with a Yoshimura race pipe :)
Hena
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> Heheh. I've got a Katana with a worked GSXR motor in > it, running through a Kerker race pipe. I've got a handful of > other bikes also, both race & street. That Kat though is my > favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor > blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical > motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. > Other than maybe a pack of similar beasts blasting down the > back straight. :)> favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor
> blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical
> motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better.
My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-)
/Bj.O.rn, SDK #1225
> > favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor
> > blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical
> > motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better.
> My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-)
While I do love the distinctive sound of those twins, they
just don't SCREAM to me like a 4 does. I will admit though,
that a Ducati is next in line on my bike purchasing list. I
think I might go with a used Monster though. If I'm gonna pay
more to go slower than an equal displacement Japanese
bike, I might as well get something a little different. ;)
-dobe-
Yep, plenty of times. And closer than most folks have, I'd
imagine. Louder doesn't equal better. :)
-dobe-
I love my inline 4s for their reliability and smoothness, but whenever I
pull in behind a Duc at speed I still get chills. The Italians still produce
the finest sounding machines on two wheels or four.
don
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>> favorite, both to ride and listen to. An early GSXR motor >> blasting through a Kerker or V & H race pipe is the prototypical >> motorcycle sound. Very little on the planet sounds better. >My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-) >/Bj.O.rn, SDK #1225>> My humble Ducati 900SS with open race cans :-)
> While I do love the distinctive sound of those twins, they
>just don't SCREAM to me like a 4 does.
> -dobe-
They all sound great, but my favorite is my 86 VFR750 Honda. It has that
V8 rumble that the RC30s lost with there crank configuration.
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Vancouver,B.C.
V8 *would* be a rumble on a bike ;-)
I agree though typo aside the V4 has that
straight cut gear whir.
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:27:04 +0200, "Harjan Brand" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I've visited the Marlboro Masters where Max drove his Yamaha, I think the
>sound is spot on. Those bikes just don't make a lot of noise.
Thats right, they are 2 strokes, and each of the 4 cylinders is only 125cc
each. They are not going to sound like a Harley, or a Superbike.
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:10:30 +0300, "Hena Hakkanen"
Or mine with a Micron race pipe...a lot throatier than the Gixxers.
Jesse
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