MGPR2

Not sure if this is the right title, but not long ago I read that Monaco GP Racing 2 was the best open wheel sim out there and that the graphics and internet racing were the best. Did I read wrong? Opinions? I saw it at Walden for $35 and wanted to know if I should pick it up. Oh, does it have a decent FF? Thanks alot dkmedic

The sound is so bad I find it un-playable. Other than that, Ahh, I never run it.

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> Not sure if this is the right title, but not long ago I read that Monaco > GP Racing 2 was the best open wheel sim out there and that the graphics > and internet racing were the best. Did I read wrong? Opinions? I saw > it at Walden for $35 and wanted to know if I should pick it up. Oh, does > it have a decent FF? > Thanks alot > dkmedic

It's not horrible, but it's not Grand Prix Legends either. The graphics are beautiful, the track modeling is ok...some problems with elevation changes and camber in some turns. The sound, as a previous post pointed out, is just awful, but like most sims, there are plenty of replacement sounds available on the net, as well as cars,***pits and track graphics. One plus is that Ubisoft included an editor with the title, making it very easy to incorporate any changes you might wish to make. I have not tried it online...but I can't imagine that it could be better than GPL in this respect. BTW...MGPRS2 seems to run much better since installing DX7 earlier this week, but I need to run more to be sure. don [|]-(_)-[|]

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>Not sure if this is the right title, but not long ago I read that Monaco >GP Racing 2 was the best open wheel sim out there and that the graphics >and internet racing were the best. Did I read wrong? Opinions? I saw >it at Walden for $35 and wanted to know if I should pick it up. Oh, does >it have a decent FF? >Thanks alot >dkmedic

Well, if you get it, I must say its a damn good sim. The FF is a little weak, except when you hit the kerbs, you get massive effects then, but all in all, in modern F1, should be really get loads of GPL style FF? I would say not, so I wouldn't criticise the fact that you don't feel hugh amounts of FF in regular driving, but its there and when you hit something you feel it, same with grass o gravel, the ff is cool there but when you loose speed the effect wears off a little for some reason. Anyway, I'd say get it and if your unsure, wait until early 2000 and you'll have the choice of GP3 and RS3...we'll be spoilt! :-)

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>Not sure if this is the right title, but not long ago I read that Monaco >GP Racing 2 was the best open wheel sim out there and that the graphics >and internet racing were the best. Did I read wrong? Opinions? I saw >it at Walden for $35 and wanted to know if I should pick it up. Oh, does >it have a decent FF? >Thanks alot >dkmedic

There is no doubt that MGPRS2 and GPL are the best F1 sims around. Despite what most people on this NG will say, GPL is not the only sim that one can get enjoyment from. Both titles are excellent and have different merits, but if you want modern F1 racing, then MGPRS2 is the best - for the moment. Iain

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:37:46 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" >There is no doubt that MGPRS2 and GPL are the best F1 sims around. Despite >what most people on this NG will say, GPL is not the only sim that one can >get enjoyment from. >Both titles are excellent and have different merits, but if you want modern >F1 racing, then MGPRS2 is the best - for the moment. You've taken the words right out of my mouth. Perhaps the only problem with MGPR2 is not the sound (I haven't noticed any problems with it), but the fact that the real team and track names aren't there, because of licensing problems. Realistic looking tracks with silly names. Tut, Tut, Tut.

Doesn't have an "Official License" because the FIA would not allow internet play during the time it was created. UbiSoft wanted to allow Internet play on their Game Service, so they said... we'll just make an editir to allow the painters out there to update the game and we'll be fine. Cheers, Shumi www.rs2league.com > On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:37:46 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" > >There is no doubt that MGPRS2 and GPL are the best F1 sims around. Despite > >what most people on this NG will say, GPL is not the only sim that one can > >get enjoyment from. > >Both titles are excellent and have different merits, but if you want modern

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> >F1 racing, then MGPRS2 is the best - for the moment. > You've taken the words right out of my mouth. > Perhaps the only problem with MGPR2 is not the sound (I haven't > noticed any problems with it), but the fact that the real team and > track names aren't there, because of licensing problems. > Realistic looking tracks with silly names. Tut, Tut, Tut.

It's a "Bernie" thing... There are many fine carsets and track updates at http://www.mgprs2.com/ don [|]-(_)-[|] >On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:37:46 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" >>There is no doubt that MGPRS2 and GPL are the best F1 sims around. Despite >>what most people on this NG will say, GPL is not the only sim that one can >>get enjoyment from. >>Both titles are excellent and have different merits, but if you want modern

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>>F1 racing, then MGPRS2 is the best - for the moment. >You've taken the words right out of my mouth. >Perhaps the only problem with MGPR2 is not the sound (I haven't >noticed any problems with it), but the fact that the real team and >track names aren't there, because of licensing problems. >Realistic looking tracks with silly names. Tut, Tut, Tut.

>There is no doubt that MGPRS2 and GPL are the best F1 sims around. Despite >what most people on this NG will say, GPL is not the only sim that one can >get enjoyment from. >Both titles are excellent and have different merits, but if you want modern >F1 racing, then MGPRS2 is the best - for the moment. Wha...? Is the full game(MGPRS2) that much better than the demo? I tried the demo, and to *me*, it SUCKED. Sorry I don't remember my specific complaints at the moment. I think I still have the file around here somewhere... I'll get back to you. Eldred __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Nice to see the '**** SUCKS' brigade back! The demo was very limited I'm afraid. Iain > >There is no doubt that MGPRS2 and GPL are the best F1 sims around. Despite > >what most people on this NG will say, GPL is not the only sim that one can > >get enjoyment from. > >Both titles are excellent and have different merits, but if you want modern > >F1 racing, then MGPRS2 is the best - for the moment. > Wha...? Is the full game(MGPRS2) that much better than the demo? I tried the > demo, and to *me*, it SUCKED. Sorry I don't remember my specific complaints at > the moment. I think I still have the file around here somewhere... I'll get

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> back to you. > Eldred > __ > Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc > If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? > remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well, for a demo I'd say it's okay, of course it doesn't show not even a fraction of the true potential of the game but still miles better than i.e. the first GPL demo... ;) Based on that one, Papyrus would have needed to put some extra money in the box. --Tel

> >Well, at least I didn't put it in the title, and I admitted that I didn't > >remember my specific gripes...<g> > >But why on EARTH would they put out a demo that didn't show the program well, > >and turns off pontential customers. In other words, based solely on the demo, > >I don't even WANT the game. That sounds like a bad (business?) decision. Let

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> >me check the demo again, and I'll ask you about my dislikes... > Well, for a demo I'd say it's okay, of course it doesn't show not even > a fraction of the true potential of the game but still miles better > than i.e. the first GPL demo... ;) Based on that one, Papyrus would > have needed to put some extra money in the box. > --Tel

Tel, What's the deal with the digital (stairstep) acceleration in Ubi's F1 titles? How can you even compare them (with GPL) based on this one huge fault? Have you driven ANY car equipped with an internal combustion engine that behaved this way during acceleration/de-acceleration? MGPR2 is well done in many areas.......unfortunately It lacks a realistic physics model that IMO should be the basis that is built upon, i.e. GPL ;-) DN

Ok, I tried the demo again. The sound is HORRIBLE, but there are other sounds on the web, right? Is there any way to CALIBRATE your controller? I know you can set the sensitivity, but that's it. I had a couple more gripes, but I can't find my list. On second look, it's not as bad as I thought before. Although, I have a Voodoo3 now... :-) Eldred __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Calibration is all taken from Win98. No need to recalibrate. Does the demo allow high res or is it restricted to 640x480? Higher res great on V3! Iain

<Shrug> whatever... AFAIK he was asking for the demo quality and here GPL was really lacking something. Of course there are flaws in MGP but so are in any game, including GPL. --Tel

>Calibration is all taken from Win98. No need to recalibrate. Does the demo >allow high res or is it restricted to 640x480? Higher res great on V3! >Iain Well, maybe I need to adjust the sensitivity. The pedals(and sometimes the steering) seem to go from OFF to FULL with very little travel... Also, I didn't see any adjustment for hi-res. The only graphics options you can change is how much detail you can see. Farther field of vision, etc. Eldred __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Touch it up with all patches you can get and you have the best actual F1-sim with nice FF-effects. I like it very much some don't. Jens On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:13:17 +0000, David Bainbridge

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|Not sure if this is the right title, but not long ago I read that Monaco |GP Racing 2 was the best open wheel sim out there and that the graphics |and internet racing were the best. Did I read wrong? Opinions? I saw |it at Walden for $35 and wanted to know if I should pick it up. Oh, does |it have a decent FF? | |Thanks alot |dkmedic

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Check your local Wal-MArt. I picked up a copy last night for $17 Canadian (about $11 US). I only just loaded it up this morning and it seems OK...I think I can get my money's worth out of it. BTW, based on my experience with the demo some time ago, it is extremely difficult to play with a joystick. If you don't own a wheel you might be very frustrated with it. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.