Nascar 3 -Another Wheel Question

I too am now considering getting a FF Wheel and would like to know if I can get one for under $100. Also are there any with pedals that are "usable"? The pedals with my Nascar Sprint were definitely not, so I use the flappers on the wheel. Also, can you brake quickly enough with pedals? When I tried the pedals with my Sprint, it was hard to be quick enough going from gas to brake. Especially when you need to make those quick "relflex" brakes.

Ahem... Why not try left foot=break, right foot=gas? Anyway, I've only owned and used one FF setup and that's my current MS Sidewinder FF Wheel. Very nice pedals. Can't comment on other brands. /petern

I just picked up the Saitek R4 FF at compusa they have discounted from $180 to $120 so far I like everything about it. It is very accurate and the pedal base is nice and wide. I have heard some complaints online about the action of the pedals but I think they are great. You can adjust the tension on both pedals. I have used the force feedback in GPL and nascar3 and they both work very well. Since I have never had a FF wheel before I can't compare it to anything else. The wheel does seem very well built though. The way it attaches to your desk also is very nice. I have a Grand Prix Thrustmaster (Paddles Only) that I upgraded from. It will take some getting used to not wanting to grab for the paddles the FF has them also. Just remember gas with the right foot, brake with the left foot. I keep forgetting! Just my 2 cents Craig

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> > I too am now considering getting a FF Wheel and would like > > to know if I can get one for under $100. Also are there any > > with pedals that are "usable"? The pedals with my Nascar Sprint > > were definitely not, so I use the flappers on the wheel. Also, can you > > brake quickly enough with pedals? When I tried the pedals with my > > Sprint, it was hard to be quick enough going from gas to brake. > > Especially when you need to make those quick "relflex" brakes. > Ahem... Why not try left foot=break, right foot=gas? > Anyway, I've only owned and used one FF setup and that's my current MS > Sidewinder FF Wheel. Very nice pedals. Can't comment on other brands. > /petern

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>> I too am now considering getting a FF Wheel and would like >> to know if I can get one for under $100. Also are there any >> with pedals that are "usable"? The pedals with my Nascar Sprint >> were definitely not, so I use the flappers on the wheel. Also, can you >> brake quickly enough with pedals? When I tried the pedals with my >> Sprint, it was hard to be quick enough going from gas to brake. >> Especially when you need to make those quick "relflex" brakes. >Ahem... Why not try left foot=break, right foot=gas? >Anyway, I've only owned and used one FF setup and that's my current MS >Sidewinder FF Wheel. Very nice pedals. Can't comment on other brands. >/petern

Oh yeah, just remembered another thing. The MS SW FF Wheel is gear driven, which is said to give a notchy or grinding feel when you pull the wheel. This has never bothered me before (GPL, TOCA 1 & 2, CMR, Viper, SCGT, Powerslide) but with N3 you tend to "pull the wheel left for extended periods of time", if you know what I mean :-) And now this slight grinding feeling has started to bother me. So now I cast my greedy eyes at a Logitech SW FF we have at work. I think I'll have to borrow it and give it a try. /petern

You won't want to give the Logitech back!

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> Oh yeah, just remembered another thing. The MS SW FF Wheel is gear > driven, which is said to give a notchy or grinding feel when you pull > the wheel. This has never bothered me before (GPL, TOCA 1 & 2, CMR, > Viper, SCGT, Powerslide) but with N3 you tend to "pull the wheel left > for extended periods of time", if you know what I mean :-) And now > this slight grinding feeling has started to bother me. > So now I cast my greedy eyes at a Logitech SW FF we have at work. I > think I'll have to borrow it and give it a try. > /petern

If I'm not mistaken, the Saitek uses the Microsoft FF engine/electronics... -Larry > I just picked up the Saitek R4 FF at compusa they have discounted from $180 > to $120 so far I like everything about it. It is very accurate and the pedal > base is nice and wide. I have heard some complaints online about the action > of the pedals but I think they are great. You can adjust the tension on both > pedals. I have used the force feedback in GPL and nascar3 and they both work

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> very well. Since I have never had a FF wheel before I can't compare it to > anything else. The wheel does seem very well built though. The way it > attaches to your desk also is very nice. > I have a Grand Prix Thrustmaster (Paddles Only) that I upgraded from. It > will take some getting used to not wanting to grab for the paddles the FF > has them also. Just remember gas with the right foot, brake with the left > foot. I keep forgetting! > Just my 2 cents > Craig > > > I too am now considering getting a FF Wheel and would like > > > to know if I can get one for under $100. Also are there any > > > with pedals that are "usable"? The pedals with my Nascar Sprint > > > were definitely not, so I use the flappers on the wheel. Also, can you > > > brake quickly enough with pedals? When I tried the pedals with my > > > Sprint, it was hard to be quick enough going from gas to brake. > > > Especially when you need to make those quick "relflex" brakes. > > Ahem... Why not try left foot=break, right foot=gas? > > Anyway, I've only owned and used one FF setup and that's my current MS > > Sidewinder FF Wheel. Very nice pedals. Can't comment on other brands. > > /petern

Yeah, but the pedals :( -Larry

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> You won't want to give the Logitech back! > > Oh yeah, just remembered another thing. The MS SW FF Wheel is gear > > driven, which is said to give a notchy or grinding feel when you pull > > the wheel. This has never bothered me before (GPL, TOCA 1 & 2, CMR, > > Viper, SCGT, Powerslide) but with N3 you tend to "pull the wheel left > > for extended periods of time", if you know what I mean :-) And now > > this slight grinding feeling has started to bother me. > > So now I cast my greedy eyes at a Logitech SW FF we have at work. I > > think I'll have to borrow it and give it a try. > > /petern

Ditch the pedals...the wheel kicks a** don [|]-(_)-[|]

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>Yeah, but the pedals :( >-Larry >> You won't want to give the Logitech back! >> > Oh yeah, just remembered another thing. The MS SW FF Wheel is gear >> > driven, which is said to give a notchy or grinding feel when you pull >> > the wheel. This has never bothered me before (GPL, TOCA 1 & 2, CMR, >> > Viper, SCGT, Powerslide) but with N3 you tend to "pull the wheel left >> > for extended periods of time", if you know what I mean :-) And now >> > this slight grinding feeling has started to bother me. >> > So now I cast my greedy eyes at a Logitech SW FF we have at work. I >> > think I'll have to borrow it and give it a try. >> > /petern