Dx 7.0

Can we have an "official" word from Papyrus on DX 7.0 ??? Affect on N3 and GPL (who cares about anything else???...just kidding). Now that the official Microsoft (retail) release has been made....this is not an install that's easily "undone!" Thanks in advance..... Tom -- Tom Pabst

Hi Ed, I guess the question is do you see any differences? Gene

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> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:44:55 GMT, > >Can we have an "official" word from Papyrus on DX 7.0 ??? > >Affect on N3 and GPL (who cares about anything else???...just kidding). > DX7.0 works fine with N3 on my system. > Voodoo3, TB MontegoII, TSW, ..etc. > -- > * rrevved at mindspring dot com > * unit.26 s.p.u.t.u.m. > * http://www.cabal.net

So far, I have only ran N3 since my DX7 install, but the 3D sound in N3 seems alot smoother. I mean the transitions from, say, a car on my L/R moving to my R/R is more fluid. Before, I could hear it move from side to center to other side, now the sound seems to just "slide across". Cool. Some day, I'll try other games again...

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> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:19:36 -0500, > >Hi Ed, > >I guess the question is do you see any differences? > >Gene > Gene, I don't have anything definitive, but the games and sims > I have used since installing it seem smoother. Again, I have > no proof, just a feeling that framerate is smoother and better. > >> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:44:55 GMT, > >> >Can we have an "official" word from Papyrus on DX 7.0 ??? > >> >Affect on N3 and GPL (who cares about anything else???...just

kidding).

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> >> DX7.0 works fine with N3 on my system. > >> Voodoo3, TB MontegoII, TSW, ..etc. > >> -- > >> * rrevved at mindspring dot com > >> * unit.26 s.p.u.t.u.m. > >> * http://www.cabal.net > -- > * rrevved at mindspring dot com > * unit.26 s.p.u.t.u.m. > * http://www.cabal.net

So far I've tried GPL, N3, MGPRS2, TOCA2, CMR, SCGT and Viper Racing. The most noticible things to me were that SCGT doesn't seem to stutter when leaving the pits any longer and there doesn't seem to be the same Microsoft 5% dead zone in the controller. PII 400/128mg/SB Live(thanks Tom P. for the setup tips!)/Banshee/LWFF don [|]-(_)-[|] >Can we have an "official" word from Papyrus on DX 7.0 ??? >Affect on N3 and GPL (who cares about anything else???...just kidding). >Now that the official Microsoft (retail) release has been made....this is not an

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>install that's easily "undone!" >Thanks in advance..... >Tom >-- >Tom Pabst

>Affect on N3 and GPL I had to change over from my Dx driver to the Papy generic driver in N3 because no matter how I calibrated, I was 3 mph slower at Dega with the Dx driver but back up to the previous speed with the generic. I have no idea why...

I could not calibrate at all using papys drivers. For those who need to remove ( or think they do :) ) DX7 check this url. http://www.heise.de/ct/ftp/99/03/204/english.shtml They have a utility to remove it. >>Affect on N3 and GPL >I had to change over from my Dx driver to the Papy generic driver in >N3 because no matter how I calibrated, I was 3 mph slower at Dega with >the Dx driver but back up to the previous speed with the generic. I >have no idea why...

Would this utility remove other versions of DirectX ? Thx 471

> Gene, I don't have anything definitive, but the games and sims > I have used since installing it seem smoother. Again, I have > no proof, just a feeling that framerate is smoother and better. The flight-sim newsgroup has several posts stating that they increased their framerates in EAW by about 10-15%.

yes

Craig, Thanks a million for your timely post. I installed DX 7.0 and immediately had all kinds of trouble with Win recognizing my wheel. Couldn't get any sim using DirectX joystick driver to work. I had tried just re-installing DX 6.1, but that didn't work. Soon as I ran the removal program your URL points to, and then re-installed DX 6.1 all is well again. Thanks again, Bob

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> I could not calibrate at all using papys drivers. > For those who need to remove ( or think they do :) ) DX7 check this > url. http://www.heise.de/ct/ftp/99/03/204/english.shtml > They have a utility to remove it. > >>Affect on N3 and GPL > >I had to change over from my Dx driver to the Papy generic driver in > >N3 because no matter how I calibrated, I was 3 mph slower at Dega with > >the Dx driver but back up to the previous speed with the generic. I > >have no idea why...

Just Some Fyi; {probably only important to me though...eh?} I wasn't as fortunate as you Bob & Craig to get the utility before I installed DX7.0 & found out that it would do a major' video mess with many of my sims & games! 'i.e. Sbk, MotoRacer2, NFS3 & more! Even MS's Midtown Madness had the same problem! Gpl & Quake2 ran great though!! Weird?? All was well with DX6.1 but I assumed if it is from "MS" it had to be ok...Wrong!! What a mess I went through; Checking all video options, in & out of control panel to change this & that etc! I finally used my tape-back-up.. While in Windows 98 I deleted everything in Windows98, System, System32 and Systembak. I then restored it back to these directories! I am really glad I have a tape-back-up! But I still have no idea why Windows 98 didnt crash when I deleted all these directories & kept running? Odd? Anyway I have DXback utility now!! Next time {if there will be a next time!} I'll use it!! Thanx Craig for posting the url!! Cheers Thom_j.

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> Craig, > Thanks a million for your timely post. I installed DX 7.0 and immediately > had all kinds of trouble with Win recognizing my wheel. Couldn't get any > sim using DirectX joystick driver to work. > I had tried just re-installing DX 6.1, but that didn't work. Soon as I

ran > the removal program your URL points to, and then re-installed DX 6.1 all is

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> well again. > Thanks again, Bob > > I could not calibrate at all using papys drivers. > > For those who need to remove ( or think they do :) ) DX7 check this > > url. http://www.heise.de/ct/ftp/99/03/204/english.shtml > > They have a utility to remove it. > > >>Affect on N3 and GPL > > >I had to change over from my Dx driver to the Papy generic driver in > > >N3 because no matter how I calibrated, I was 3 mph slower at Dega with > > >the Dx driver but back up to the previous speed with the generic. I > > >have no idea why...

I'm not Papy, but I haven't had any problems with DX7 yet. -Larry > Can we have an "official" word from Papyrus on DX 7.0 ??? > Affect on N3 and GPL (who cares about anything else???...just kidding). > Now that the official Microsoft (retail) release has been made....this is not an

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> install that's easily "undone!" > Thanks in advance..... > Tom > -- > Tom Pabst

If it ain't broke...Don't mess with it!

DX7 is OK for both. However, I realized that GPL does not have antialiasing while N3 does. Is this going to be addressed? -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com >I'm not Papy, but I haven't had any problems with DX7 yet. >-Larry >> Can we have an "official" word from Papyrus on DX 7.0 ??? >> Affect on N3 and GPL (who cares about anything else???...just kidding). >> Now that the official Microsoft (retail) release has been made....this is >not an >> install that's easily "undone!" >> Thanks in advance..... >> Tom >> -- >> Tom Pabst