The force of the LWFF

A couple of days ago Alison or Eric Cote, can't remember exactly, wrote that the force of the LWFF is depending on the id number in joystick properties. Yesterday I tried this out, and what a H-U-G-E difference it makes! First I had my ch pedals on id #1 and the LWFF on #2, I tried Alison's ff settings and found them way to weak, I could barely feel the forces. On the other hand, Alison couldn't understand how people could drive with Eric Cote's settings, she found them way to strong. Yesterday i put my CH pedals on #2 and the LWFF on #1. I drove 5 laps on Spa in a Lotus, and the forces were way stronger than before, really much, much stronger! If I have to guess, I think an increase of about 30-40%. The forces were so strong that it was very heavy to drive the car, after 5 laps I really got tired. I then changed the id numbers again, and as expected the ff was much softer again, like I prefer. FF is to be used to feel the movement of the car, not as a workout. There were some thoughts that there are different versions of the LWFF, with different ff forces. Maybe this still is true, I'm curious to know of other LWFF experience the same big ff differences when they change their ID number. Andre.

Odd. I'll have to try it and let you know as I've only basically ever run my LWFF on id #1.

I cannot confirm this. I've always used the LWFF on #2 and my TMF1 pedals on #1. Force in core.ini at 200, in LWFF properties at 150. I tried using the LWFF on #1 after reading your post, but the only effect was, that I couldn't use my pedals on #2. The force of the wheel seemed to be exactly the same. With Alison's idea to set the damping to zero in the LWFF properties, a core.ini force of 200 just feels right for me, certainly not too weak. Seems there *are* different LWFF's around... BTW, just out of couriosity, how did you get your CH pedals to work on ID#2 ? Peter Vienna, Austria

Actually that was no problem at all for me... I first add my lwff in joystick properties, and then I add the ch pedals. Lwff gets #1, CH gets #2 automatically. Andre

LOL, not a workout??? Do you think that stockcar drivers don't get a workout with their wheels? If you dont then your wrong!

Yes, I did it the same way. What I meant was, did your CH pedals work on #2 with the LWFF on #1? Because my TM pedals are dead when I try to calibrate them in GPL and they are on #2 and the LWFF on #1. Even when they are listed OK in the Game Controller properties. Not that it matters, the other way round everything is OK, I just wondered... Peter Vienna, Austria

If I remember well Alison wrote on her FF pages that the steering in a F1 car is quite light and very sensitive... allthough I'm beaten in real life after ten minutes of cart racing :) Andre >LOL, not a workout??? Do you think that stockcar drivers don't get a workout >with their wheels? If you dont then your wrong!

The ForceFX is the same way.

Yes Peter, it works both ways in GPL. Don't know why it doesn't work with your TM pedals, but as you said, why fix it if it ain't broken :) By the way, I don't know these TM pedals. Can you compare them with the CH pedals? Andre On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:24:38 GMT, "Peter Prochazka"

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>Yes, I did it the same way. What I meant was, did your CH pedals work on #2 >with the LWFF on #1? Because my TM pedals are dead when I try to calibrate >them in GPL and they are on #2 and the LWFF on #1. Even when they are listed >OK in the Game Controller properties. Not that it matters, the other way >round everything is OK, I just wondered... >Peter >Vienna, Austria

The pedals of my old Trustmaster Formula One (think it's called Nascar Pro or something in the US). They are quite good as long as no spring breaks or a pot goes mad. Can't compare them to the CH though, since I've not even seen them in Austria. But regarding the posts on RAS, I'd assume that the CH are better. Peter Vienna, Austria

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> Yes Peter, it works both ways in GPL. Don't know why it doesn't work > with your TM pedals, but as you said, why fix it if it ain't broken :) > By the way, I don't know these TM pedals. Can you compare them with > the CH pedals? > Andre > On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:24:38 GMT, "Peter Prochazka" > >Yes, I did it the same way. What I meant was, did your CH pedals work on

#2 > >with the LWFF on #1? Because my TM pedals are dead when I try to calibrate > >them in GPL and they are on #2 and the LWFF on #1. Even when they are listed > >OK in the Game Controller properties. Not that it matters, the other way > >round everything is OK, I just wondered... > >Peter > >Vienna, Austria

He has never raced an old front wheel drive Golf (Rabbit) with an almost completely locked LS differential and without power steering. Then you can talk about workout... After 10 km are your arms like spaghetti. :) -- /M Lindqvist Spamguard: Remove .ajabaja in e-mail