N3 Frame Rates and FR Indicator

Sounds like the top of the***pit is getting cut off. Try resizing your screen via your monitor controls. Eric

V2 12MB frame rate indicator doesn't appear in 1024 resolution, but does appear at 800 or 640. Anyone else experiencing this? What rates are you getting? I can run GPL at 800 with a full field and all options maxed out and only dip below 36/(now 37) in the pits and at starts. Based on what N3 is telling me (with all options maxed) , I have worse frame rates in N3 than in GPL!?!?! NR1999 and N2 run at full frames at all times. Thanks for any feedback. Marc. -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins Computers will never equal humans until they make mistakes and blame them on other computers. ****************************************************************************

marc, I run 36 fps consistently in GPL with my PIII 450 mhz and I run 30/30 fps in N3 which i hear is close to max. Do you have any of your textures turned off ?? Kudos to Eric Busch for being a member of the N3 team ! Tim Deatherage >V2 12MB frame rate indicator doesn't appear in 1024 resolution, but does >appear at 800 or 640. Anyone else experiencing this? >What rates are you getting? I can run GPL at 800 with a full field and all >options maxed out and only dip below 36/(now 37) in the pits and at starts. >Based on what N3 is telling me (with all options maxed) , I have worse frame >rates in N3 than in GPL!?!?! NR1999 and N2 run at full frames at all times. >Thanks for any feedback. >Marc. >-- >*************************************************************************** * >Marc Collins >Computers will never equal humans until they make mistakes and >blame them on other computers. >*************************************************************************** *

Boy do I feel dumb....but thanks! My 1024 V2 refresh rate must have got reset during one or another of some recent installs. Frame rates are still a bit below where I expected given my experience with GPL....but seem acceptable at 1024 with everything on. Seems as though there is really no hit for going to 1024 over 800--sort of like going to 800 over 640 in GPL. Eric, could you tell us what are the top 3 frame rate killers in N3? Hopefully we can short-circuit the interminable discussion that ensued with GPL where people spent months adjusting graphics options while all the time it was the number of AI cars that was making the significant difference. Any insight you have on this topic would be appreciated. By the way, so far, I am very impressed with N3. As so many have said, it isn't GPL, but it is state of the art for NASCAR sims and I guess that's all that really matters at the end of the day. As long as you are the best, what could be better is great discussion fodder, but ultimately academic. Personally I won't even bother trying the arcade settings, but I hope they work as well or better than NASCAR Revulsion, etc. If you can manage to grab the arcader market, but still include the "real" version for us r.a.s. types, we'll all be forever grateful! Hopefully you'll sell enough copies of your title to have the freedom to pursue excellence for upcoming titles. It isn't a particularly profitable pursuit (the excellence part), but it is a noble one that many of us appreciate to an extent that can never be recognised by a simple market transaction (my purchase of a single copy of N3 or GPL, e.g.). GPL is by far the most endearing (and often frustrating, too!) piece of software I have ever used. And I have a feeling, if no bugs jump out at me, that N3 is going to be a lot of fun racing. For me, GPL is for driving and practising and honing skills and after a gigantic learning curve, one can hope to race adequately. N3 is appropriately difficult, but one can actually participate in races with only a few hours of practise under their belt. That is a whole different kind of entertainment. Thanks to all at Papy for another impressive piece of work. (As I always like to remind myself and others....another Papy title that works out of the box, no sound, graphics or controller problems whatsoever). That goodness Charlie fixed the annoying spotter voice volume control "issue" from NR1999! Marc.

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> Sounds like the top of the***pit is getting cut off. Try resizing > your screen via your monitor controls. > Eric > > V2 12MB frame rate indicator doesn't appear in 1024 resolution, but > does > > appear at 800 or 640. Anyone else experiencing this?

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 06:10:19 GMT, "Marc Collins"

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>Boy do I feel dumb....but thanks! My 1024 V2 refresh rate must have got >reset during one or another of some recent installs. >Frame rates are still a bit below where I expected given my experience with >GPL....but seem acceptable at 1024 with everything on. Seems as though >there is really no hit for going to 1024 over 800--sort of like going to 800 >over 640 in GPL. Eric, could you tell us what are the top 3 frame rate >killers in N3? Hopefully we can short-circuit the interminable discussion >that ensued with GPL where people spent months adjusting graphics options >while all the time it was the number of AI cars that was making the >significant difference. Any insight you have on this topic would be >appreciated.

The manual says the #1 fps killer is the track draw ahead option, so set that to your liking first. Reading the rest of pg. 13 would suggest that crowd and asphalt textures would have the next biggest impact on fps, as well as cars drawn ahead. Bill.