Hello,
I just had to post something today, and since N3 is not released yet in Europe
I can't join in yet :)
Thanks to Remco's advices on gearing setup on GSB-chat yesterday i finally
got that 1.29.95 at Monza with the Eagle. Now there is only one way to go,
faster :)
And i still have that 3:30 limit an Spa to beat.
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Breaking the 1:30 barrier at Monza in GPL
Olav Malmin celebrated his first sub-1:30 lap at Monza, crediting gearing advice from Remco Moedt. Others shared how they broke through lap time plateaus by changing setups, driving the F3 car for an hour to become smoother, comparing replays, and racing all the tracks rather than a favourite few. Several recommended learning the Nurburgring, and one explained how he bought a discontinued Aura Interactor vibrating seat.
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> Hello, > I just had to post something today, and since N3 is not released yet in Europe > I can't join in yet :) > Thanks to Remco's advices on gearing setup on GSB-chat yesterday i finally > got that 1.29.95 at Monza with the Eagle. Now there is only one way to go, > faster :)Quoted text (14 lines)
> > Hello, > > I just had to post something today, and since N3 is not released yet in Europe > > I can't join in yet :) > > Thanks to Remco's advices on gearing setup on GSB-chat yesterday i finally > > got that 1.29.95 at Monza with the Eagle. Now there is only one way to go, > > faster :) > Hey - me too - I just got 1.29.76 and 1.29.84 on successive laps with > the default Lotus 1.1 setup. > Looks we're gonna kick ass on VROC soon (unless the others are getting > faster as well)!> I spent a lot of time at Spa before i got my MSFF wheel, but it is easier to
> train many laps at Monza than Spa.
Funny thing is, Spa is the one track where I instantly went faster with
the Aura Interactor vibrating seat thingie - purely because I was more
pumped up than usual!
It was incredible to be blasting down those straights forgetting that it
was only a sim, and I found myself wanting to go even faster rather than
wimping out on the fast kinks.
Normally I prefer tracks like Zandvoort where I'm busy for the whole
lap, rather than trundling down the straight thinking about how badly I
took that last corner!
I've been running the lotus w/pretty much default setups, although i just
started tweaking them, and I've gotten to around 1:32. Do I need to trail
brake to break 1:30 or can it be done w/out?
Curse you Olav, you swine! ;-)))
I've been stuck at 1:30 for ages! best lap 1:30.15. Must admit lately I
have been spending more time at Spa after having the same 3:30 barrier as
you. Finally modified some of Senor Nunnini's setups for the Lotus and have
managed a P.B. of 3:27.2 - IN A RACE!. Might spend some more time at Monza
tonight to see if I can beat the elusive 1:30
Cheers..
Phillip...
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> Curse you Olav, you swine! ;-))) > I've been stuck at 1:30 for ages! best lap 1:30.15. Must admit lately I > have been spending more time at Spa after having the same 3:30 barrier as > you. Finally modified some of Senor Nunnini's setups for the Lotus and have > managed a P.B. of 3:27.2 - IN A RACE!. Might spend some more time at Monza > tonight to see if I can beat the elusive 1:30 > Cheers.. > Phillip...Quoted text (15 lines)
> > Hello, > > I just had to post something today, and since N3 is not released yet in > Europe > > I can't join in yet :) > > Thanks to Remco's advices on gearing setup on GSB-chat yesterday i finally > > got that 1.29.95 at Monza with the Eagle. Now there is only one way to go, > > faster :) > > And i still have that 3:30 limit an Spa to beat. > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove spam when replyingQuoted text (14 lines)
>> I spent a lot of time at Spa before i got my MSFF wheel, but it is easier to >> train many laps at Monza than Spa. >Funny thing is, Spa is the one track where I instantly went faster with >the Aura Interactor vibrating seat thingie - purely because I was more >pumped up than usual! >It was incredible to be blasting down those straights forgetting that it >was only a sim, and I found myself wanting to go even faster rather than >wimping out on the fast kinks. >Normally I prefer tracks like Zandvoort where I'm busy for the whole >lap, rather than trundling down the straight thinking about how badly I >took that last corner!> Could I ask where you got your interactor from. I, like you, am in
> the UK and haven't been able to find a UK source for this bit of h/w.
I ordered it over the internet (eek) from this email address:
I think they have a stock of 6000 of the (discontinued) Aura
Interactors, and are selling them for $20 + $45 shipping to the UK
(takes 6-8 weeks) = $65 total.
I gave him my visa number by email (you can send the two halves in
separate emails for some security).
Make sure you specify the 220volt version - I got the 110 volt version
and had to buy a special mains transformer for 35!
He also has a web site but I can't remember the URL, I'm afraid.
I find it very interesting that I always have a kind of 'limit' on a track I
practice often. When I break one limit I'm immediately stuck on the next
one. In Monza the first one was of course the 1:30. Then suddenly I managed
a 1:29:8x. Well, that was the next one. I don't know how much laps I did
with times that were just a few hundreths away from that time. Then, boom
out of the blue sky, suddenly a 1:29:25. Well, there I'm stuck now, with a
PB of 1:29:20 and about 30 times betwen 1:29:20 and 1:29:30. (And I know,
the 1:28 will come suddenly and unexpected... ;-) The interesting part is,
when I compare (with SpyGirl) 2 good laps that are very close in time and
one time I had the feeling for example the Parabolica was very good and on
the other lap perhaps the Lesmos, I find out out that they are driven almost
exactly the same. No very good Parabolica or Lesmos, just the same ***as
in the other lap. Strange, how quick one can get used to a way to drive the
particular turns and how hard it is to unlearn one's habits to get a bit
quicker again...
Peter
Vienna, Austria
I picked one up at a place in Phoenix called MacFrugals (sp?)
It's aplace that sells discount stuff, store buyouts, . Most cities
have a similar place. Back in Massachusetts and RI there was one
called Ocean State Job Lot
anyway, they had them for only $9.99
Mike Lewis
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>> Could I ask where you got your interactor from. I, like you, am in >> the UK and haven't been able to find a UK source for this bit of h/w. >I ordered it over the internet (eek) from this email address: >I think they have a stock of 6000 of the (discontinued) Aura >Interactors, and are selling them for $20 + $45 shipping to the UK >(takes 6-8 weeks) = $65 total. >I gave him my visa number by email (you can send the two halves in >separate emails for some security). >Make sure you specify the 220volt version - I got the 110 volt version >and had to buy a special mains transformer for 35! >He also has a web site but I can't remember the URL, I'm afraid.Remco also gave some very sound advice on VROC one night. If I've got it
correct he said, "For those who are still above 130 at Monza; take an F3 out
for an hour solid. When you come back to the F1 you will have lost a
second."
I took my F3 out for one hour and have been making 29's ever since. :-)
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Very reckognizable for me, your story. I'm stuck at 1.28.45 at this
moment, but like you I also got stuck at 1.30, 1.29.80, 1.29.70 etc.
For me the best way to keep improving is this:
I drive 30 laps on Monza. Then I save each lap to a replay.
Then I compare each lap to my 1.28.45 lap, and make notes which cornes
I took good in which lap, and in which corners I absolutely screwed
up.
Then I go back to GPL and watch each replay again, trying to find out
why I took a certain corner to well. With these times, a very minor
difference in taking a corner can make tenths of seconds of
difference.
I try to remeber how I took the corner, and then try it again and
again, untill I can keep driving that corner like I did it before in
my best lap.
This is how I got from 1.29.80 to 1.28.45... and I still see lots of
room for improvement.
The corner which is most difficult for me is the 2nd lesmo, still
can't get that one right. Another difficult corner for me was the
Curva Grande. Finally I felt how I should drive this corner, I
compared my laps with the WR of Woeger, and finally I'm able to drive
it as fast as he does :)
Hope this helps,
Andre
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:16:04 GMT, "Peter Prochazka"
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>I find it very interesting that I always have a kind of 'limit' on a track I >practice often. When I break one limit I'm immediately stuck on the next >one. In Monza the first one was of course the 1:30. Then suddenly I managed >a 1:29:8x. Well, that was the next one. I don't know how much laps I did >with times that were just a few hundreths away from that time. Then, boom >out of the blue sky, suddenly a 1:29:25. Well, there I'm stuck now, with a >PB of 1:29:20 and about 30 times betwen 1:29:20 and 1:29:30. (And I know, >the 1:28 will come suddenly and unexpected... ;-) The interesting part is, >when I compare (with SpyGirl) 2 good laps that are very close in time and >one time I had the feeling for example the Parabolica was very good and on >the other lap perhaps the Lesmos, I find out out that they are driven almost >exactly the same. No very good Parabolica or Lesmos, just the same ***as >in the other lap. Strange, how quick one can get used to a way to drive the >particular turns and how hard it is to unlearn one's habits to get a bit >quicker again... >Peter >Vienna, AustriaIs it me, or do a lot of guys here just drive on the same 2 or 3 tracks
trying to improve their PBs. If this is the case then it doesn't
surprise me that you are eventually hitting a "wall" timewise.
I've been playing GPL pretty regularly for the past 3 months and the way
I play it is to do a Grand Prix season so that I am regularly visiting
each track in turn. I have found that by doing this, everytime I return
to each track, it is with a fresh outlook and renewed enthusiasm and, as
a consequence, I have been able to improve my PB at every circuit during
the first practice round. Then, once I have set what I would call a
decent enough qualifying time - one that has improved on my previous PB
by at least .5 of a second - I then concentrate on getting my race day
car setup. In this way my times have been tumbling, and the last time I
was at Monza I managed a 1:28.77 and have done 3:21.xx at Spa and still
see room for improvement at all circuits.
One sad note though, since I have gone the whole hog with the Grand Prix
distance race with my last season, whereas I used to be able to finish
races at the other distances, I am yet to complete a race. I've come
close on a few occasions, managing about 3/4 distance before one slip in
concentration has seen me ploughing out of the race. :-(
Except, that is, for when I was racing at Silverstone and was lapping a
Ferrari just before Woodcot, went slightly deep into the corner but
thought I had still managed the pass, only to be clipped by the
b*ast*rd. This spun me round and he then rammed my front end taking my
right wheel off. When I checked the replay I discovered that the
Ferrari had actually driven on to the pit lane "cobbles" in order to get
on the inside line and, despite my starting to pull away from him as my
Lotus accelerated onto the straight, the *** had drifted out and
clipped my back wheel with his front. This was only 20 laps from the
finish.
Anyway, I digress, as I said, if you are not racing on all the tracks
then try it, it doesn't take that long to learn a new one - apart from
the ring of course - and it certainly stops things from getting too
stale. ;-)
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Peter Ives
After reading your post, I felt that urge, that I *must* get rid of my
'barrier' in Monza and finally set a 1:28 time. But because I'm a lazy guy
and analyzing dozens of laps in detail seemed too much work, I tried a
different approach:
Setup change! I was using Nunnini's Lotus 3.1 setup, which feels very
comfortable and quite fast, but I thought it could use a little bit more
oversteer in Monza. So I tweaked around and suddenly, after a promising
1:29:14, a 1:28:88 ! Yippie!:-) And the best thing is, using SpyGirl and
GPLDump, I found out, that I lost nearly half a second in the Parabolica in
this lap vs. my old PB. So there is room for improvement, there is *hope*,
finally!
Well, then I made the old mistake again, trying to push too hard to improve
further. So I went to the Glen with my setup. Having a PB of 1:06.07, a 1:05
is the time I long for. And yesss!, after falling off the Big Bend in lap 2,
lap 3 was a 1:05:99 and lap 5 a 1:05.85. After some other high 1:05's and
the old 'overcooking' issue, I thought, let's try something different:
Zandy!
I love and hate that track: It's so much fun to drift around through these
turns, hardly ever braking or gear shifting, but it's sooo easy to fly over
the dunes when setting a wheel off the track. My PB there was a lonely
1:28.58 among a lot of crappy 1:29's. Well, after some laps of small and
big mistakes, which prevented me from telling the value of my new setup,
there it was: On lap 12, I nailed a 1:26.73 into the sands of Holland !!! I
was so happy, that I forgot to brake for Tarzan after I saw the pitboard!
What a day, 3 new PB's on different tracks, each breaking a limit to a new
second and all without doing hundrets of laps! :-))))
Well, all I want to say (besides congratulating myself :-)) is, if you're
stuck on a lap time and cannot improve it further, try to tweak your setup.
Another setup forces you to drive different and maybe faster.
So I'm off to Spa, there's a crappy 3:25.xx to beat... ;-)
Well..., please forgive me this lengthy post, but I'm somewhat euphoric
today!
Peter
Vienna, Austria
Don't know, what other guys do, but I drive quite regularly Monza, Glen,
Silverstone, Zandy, Spa and Rouen. I play GPL for 2 1/2 months now and I've
yet to try Kyalami, Mexico and Mosport. Monaco and the Ring I do, well...,
sometimes :-)
But you're right, I should drive all tracks (and race on them), but I've the
problem, that there's so much to try and learn in GPL. The different tracks,
the different cars, different setups, racing and trying to learn a proper
technique to get fast and consistent. (and somewhere in between getting used
to FF;-)
So I often drive a track I know instead of trying a new one. It's more fun
for me, when I know the track and can concentrate on getting it right
instead of having to wonder, how the next turn is. But tomorrow is Sunday, a
lot of time to fill some gaps... :-)
Peter
Vienna, Austria
Let me know when you usually run. I'm always the last of the finishers....
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Ok, so I'm at 3:29 at Spa. But it will probably be easier for you to find one
second at Spa than for ME to find THREE seconds at Monza(1:32 avg.)...<g>
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>Remco also gave some very sound advice on VROC one night. If I've got it
>correct he said, "For those who are still above 130 at Monza; take an F3 out
>for an hour solid. When you come back to the F1 you will have lost a
>second."
>I took my F3 out for one hour and have been making 29's ever since. :-)
Why does that help? Just curious, not ***ing.
Running an F3 for THREE hours won't get me under 1:30.(1:32's right now).
<g>
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>Anyway, I digress, as I said, if you are not racing on all the tracks
>then try it, it doesn't take that long to learn a new one - apart from
>the ring of course - and it certainly stops things from getting too
>stale. ;-)
No, I'll just be in last place in ALL 11 tracks... :-)
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>>Remco also gave some very sound advice on VROC one night. If I've got it
>>correct he said, "For those who are still above 130 at Monza; take an F3 out
With F3 you can improve your drivingstyle without going wide in every turn.
You can easily discover the idea _how_ you can improve your speed and also
it is easier to practice being smooth with the car. When you go back to F1
you'll notice that you are smoother with brakes and cornering. Also in F3
you have been braking much later into the corners and almost automatically
you brake later in F1 after the test. One important thing in F3 is to
maintain good speed thru the whole corner and only way to do it is by being
smoother and smoother, not only with the wheel, but with brakes and
accelerating and that is _the_ thing that improves your times in F3, and by
transfering this information to F1 will also improve your times with F1 car.
Also when you are modifying car setups. You can see the results more
dramatically with F3 car in the time. You can see better what the current
modification does to your car and also here, by transfering this information
to F1 will help you in F1.
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>>for an hour solid. When you come back to the F1 you will have lost a >>second." >>I took my F3 out for one hour and have been making 29's ever since. :-) >Why does that help? Just curious, not ***ing. >Running an F3 for THREE hours won't get me under 1:30.(1:32's right now). ><g> >EldredEldred, you have a serious self-confidence problem :)
Andre
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As far as setups go, what I found was, once I had got a setup at one
track that seemed to suit my style of driving, I was then able to apply
the same kind of changes to all the default setups and found that the
car would still handle in a very similar way. The only track this
didn't apply was Brands Hatch which is sooo slippy. I couldn't find
anything that worked there and eventually used Alison Hine's Ferrari
setup for my Lotus. I've tried her setups on other tracks by the way,
but they don't suit my driving.
The kind of changes I'm referring to - and I'm definitely no expert -
are:-
The relationship between the front/rear wheel rates. (In other words the
number of lbs/in difference between the two - for instance I prefer my
rear wheel rate to be only 10lbs/in more than the default front setting)
The amount of bump and rebound. (Whether I had more/less bump than
rebound - I normally have bump on the fronts set to 3)
The relationship between front and rear ARB. (Again the average
difference between the two - I generally like my rear ARB to be half the
setting at the front)
I found that if these were similar at all tracks then the car would
generally handle ok. I then had a starting frame of reference which I
could then improve on as I became more familiar with the track.
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Peter Ives
Peter,
What setup changes?
I like the Nunnini's setup, as you said, very comfortable, but for me
not that fast. I can do 29.xx with Alison Ferrari setups in the Lotus,
and I probe the Nunnini's, more easily handling the car, but I do
30.xx, seems slower that Alison's for me.
Can you tell me the changes in the Nunnini's setup?
Thanks.
JaviF
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I had the exact incident happen to me the other night at Silverstone. Where I
tried to overtake a car on the outside at Woodcot. He bobbled, then slid up and
took me out. As they say......."that's racin'!" I have never raced in any series
that the backmarkers were as slow as they are in GPL. Jack Rambo where are you?
The ONLY complaint I ever had about GPL was the diversity of the field. Well
maybe the lack of OpenGL support too. But I agree with you on hitting the wall by
confining yourself to just a few of the tracks in GPL. The only way to understand
the physics of racing is to expose yourself and your car to as many differing
circumstances as posible. There is alot more to GPL than Monza. Mexico and Zandy
are my favorite tracks.
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> >I find it very interesting that I always have a kind of 'limit' on a track I > >practice often. When I break one limit I'm immediately stuck on the next > >one. In Monza the first one was of course the 1:30. Then suddenly I managed > >a 1:29:8x. Well, that was the next one. I don't know how much laps I did > >with times that were just a few hundreths away from that time. Then, boom > >out of the blue sky, suddenly a 1:29:25. Well, there I'm stuck now, with a > >PB of 1:29:20 and about 30 times betwen 1:29:20 and 1:29:30. (And I know, > >the 1:28 will come suddenly and unexpected... ;-) The interesting part is, > >when I compare (with SpyGirl) 2 good laps that are very close in time and > >one time I had the feeling for example the Parabolica was very good and on > >the other lap perhaps the Lesmos, I find out out that they are driven almost > >exactly the same. No very good Parabolica or Lesmos, just the same ***as > >in the other lap. Strange, how quick one can get used to a way to drive the > >particular turns and how hard it is to unlearn one's habits to get a bit > >quicker again... > Is it me, or do a lot of guys here just drive on the same 2 or 3 tracks > trying to improve their PBs. If this is the case then it doesn't > surprise me that you are eventually hitting a "wall" timewise. > I've been playing GPL pretty regularly for the past 3 months and the way > I play it is to do a Grand Prix season so that I am regularly visiting > each track in turn. I have found that by doing this, everytime I return > to each track, it is with a fresh outlook and renewed enthusiasm and, as > a consequence, I have been able to improve my PB at every circuit during > the first practice round. Then, once I have set what I would call a > decent enough qualifying time - one that has improved on my previous PB > by at least .5 of a second - I then concentrate on getting my race day > car setup. In this way my times have been tumbling, and the last time I > was at Monza I managed a 1:28.77 and have done 3:21.xx at Spa and still > see room for improvement at all circuits. > One sad note though, since I have gone the whole hog with the Grand Prix > distance race with my last season, whereas I used to be able to finish > races at the other distances, I am yet to complete a race. I've come > close on a few occasions, managing about 3/4 distance before one slip in > concentration has seen me ploughing out of the race. :-( > Except, that is, for when I was racing at Silverstone and was lapping a > Ferrari just before Woodcot, went slightly deep into the corner but > thought I had still managed the pass, only to be clipped by the > b*ast*rd. This spun me round and he then rammed my front end taking my > right wheel off. When I checked the replay I discovered that the > Ferrari had actually driven on to the pit lane "cobbles" in order to get > on the inside line and, despite my starting to pull away from him as my > Lotus accelerated onto the straight, the *** had drifted out and > clipped my back wheel with his front. This was only 20 laps from the > finish. > Anyway, I digress, as I said, if you are not racing on all the tracks > then try it, it doesn't take that long to learn a new one - apart from > the ring of course - and it certainly stops things from getting too > stale. ;-) > -- > Peter IvesQuoted text (7 lines)
>> Let me know when you usually run. I'm always the last of the finishers.... >> Eldred >Nope, you're wrong here Eldred! That was me, you remember? >Jan.You suggest the Ring to improve confidence?!? You're a cruel man, Andre...<g>
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In my opinion the Ring really is the best track to learn GPl... it
offers everything. Drive it again and again and again, until you know
the road by head, and then improve your times. When you're able to
drive to Ring, all the other tracks become a lot easier...
Andre
> In my opinion the Ring really is the best track to learn GPl... it
> offers everything. Drive it again and again and again, until you know
> the road by head, and then improve your times. When you're able to
> drive to Ring, all the other tracks become a lot easier...
Sure, but how long does that take!?
I really got into the Nurburgring for a while and just drove it
exclusively in training mode.
Finally I got down to about 8:40, and it was a great experience, but the
problem is that my system can't cope with any other cars on the circuit
at all.
Even with only one AI opponent (using n_ai_cars=1) it was too slow and
kept pausing at certain points on the track.
As for online ... you can imagine!
I now hardly ever race there and have to skip it when doing a world
championship - there's no way I could beat Jim Clarke there anyway!
Perhaps when I get a P9 4000.... ;-)
> In my opinion the Ring really is the best track to learn GPl... it
> offers everything. Drive it again and again and again, until you know
> the road by head, and then improve your times. When you're able to
> drive to Ring, all the other tracks become a lot easier...
> Andre
And it keeps you from developing bad habits since it is close to
impossible to get a clean lap if you try to go over your limit.
It's like doing 5-in-a-row hotlaps at most other tracks :-)
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>> In my opinion the Ring really is the best track to learn GPl... it >> offers everything. Drive it again and again and again, until you know >> the road by head, and then improve your times. When you're able to >> drive to Ring, all the other tracks become a lot easier... >> Andre >And it keeps you from developing bad habits since it is close to >impossible to get a clean lap if you try to go over your limit. >It's like doing 5-in-a-row hotlaps at most other tracks :-)> You know the Ring by MEMORY?!? Ok, you're a better man than *I* am...
Funny thing is, I think Jackie Stewart said it was impossible to drive
the whole of the Ring by memory - the best way was to learn the rhythm
of each section and do it like that.
Of course, with current simracing technology you can get in far more
laps and it certainly *is* possible to learn the whole of the circuit -
it just takes a long time!
It's really not that difficult. Remember and learn the track section
by section, study real life maps of the ring, and watch the
surroundings of the track for refering points.
The Ring indeed exists of different sections, each with their own
rhythm. Of all the tracks available, I like the Ring the best.
Eldred, don't concentrate on superb lap times in the beginning, it's
more important that you stay on the track. If you drive carefull, and
don't spin, a sub 10 minutes lap is really not that difficult.
Andre
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>> You know the Ring by MEMORY?!? Ok, you're a better man than *I* am... >Funny thing is, I think Jackie Stewart said it was impossible to drive >the whole of the Ring by memory - the best way was to learn the rhythm >of each section and do it like that. >Of course, with current simracing technology you can get in far more >laps and it certainly *is* possible to learn the whole of the circuit - >it just takes a long time!<snip>
Gotta say that now I know it pretty well my fav. has got to be the Ring.
Funny really considering that, along with Brands Hatch, its a track
where I currently have no chance of competing with the AI. My PB is
only 8:39 whilst they're in the 8:20s. Mind you that was on a pretty
full fuel load - it was actually better than my best qualifying time -
and was an improvement of over 15 seconds from the previous time I'd
raced there and it was only 4 races ago that I was still trying to get
under 10 minutes.
I do also like Zandy and Mexico, though I used to hate Mexico at first.
Thought the twisty section awful and wondered how the AI could get
through it so quickly. Now I'm just as quick as them. <g> And that
first corner at the end of the start/finish straight used to give me the
willys, but now I can fly into it with confidence.
You could say, when it comes to racing on all the tracks, it's the old
"is the glass half empty or half full" scenario. For me, to not to have
tried out every track on such a great game is definitely in the half
empty category, whereas others may be happy to be competitive on the
tracks that they have raced at.
--
Peter Ives
