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N3 and Hercules Thriller

15 posts by 12 people · 15 Sep 1999 - 17 Sep 1999

Shawn Wi 15 Sep 1999#492624
You may have some luck using the Rendition Beta 5 reference drivers. We were able to keep it from crashing with these drivers, but they still were unable to run the the graphics to their full potential. You can find the drivers at; http://www.rendition.com/usersupport.html You need to make sure that you have the proper bios version for your card and thoroughly read the information about using reference drivers versus the ones your card manufacturer supplies. These are "Beta" drivers, so your mileage may vary. Shawn Wise/Papyrus >Hi all, just wanted to let everyone know, the Hercules Thriller will NOT work >with N3. I can run N3 in software mode, but when trying to use the D3D option >in N3, the game locks up when I go to the track. I called Sierra tech support, >and they basically said they knew about this, and that they couldn't help me >with it. >Q
Otis 15 Sep 1999#492625
> You may have some luck using the Rendition Beta 5 > reference drivers. We were able to keep it from crashing > with these drivers, but they still were unable to run the > the graphics to their full potential. Since my card is no longer useful can you guys give me some suggestions on a new card. First assumption. Money is no object. Video card will run N3, and GPL plus the normal other business apps stuff. This is the "mother of all video cards". Top of the line stuff here. Second assumption. Money is a slight option. Which middle of the road card will run both N3 and GPL?I'm cheap option. Can I just keep my current Herc. Thriller card and live with the lessor graphics in N3 if I don't feel like spending a boat load of new money on a new card? Otis
Infoco 16 Sep 1999#492909
Hi all, just wanted to let everyone know, the Hercules Thriller will NOT work with N3. I can run N3 in software mode, but when trying to use the D3D option in N3, the game locks up when I go to the track. I called Sierra tech support, and they basically said they knew about this, and that they couldn't help me with it. Q
TRUSRS85 16 Sep 1999#492910
why is it that PAPY fully endorced rendition in ICR2, N2, N99, and GPL, but not in N3. I bought a card to run PAPY games, and now you abondon us??
Larry 16 Sep 1999#492911
That doesn't make much sense. It's a standard TNT2 board, right? Or is that a different type of board? Are you overclocking it? If so, what happens if you put it at the factory defaults? If it is a TNT2 board, what about trying reference nVidia drivers? FWIW... -Larry
Larry 16 Sep 1999#492912
Ok, never mind. It's a Rendition board. Forget my previous reply :) -Larry
Larry 16 Sep 1999#492913
I know it hurts, but frankly D3D is the future of *** on Pc's, and I'm glad to finally see Papyrus adopt it. Now we just need GPL 2.0 :) -Larry
Dave Henrie 16 Sep 1999#492914
If you read the beta report at one of the sites, then you should have known the thriller wouldn't work with N3. The Rendition chipset is two generations behind most others, heck even Matrox has surpassed the Rendition chips, ATI Rage 128, all of em are faster in D3D. Time to ***and realize that except for ICR2 and GPL, there is no reason to own a Rendition based video card anymore. dave henrie
Quoted text (18 lines)> >You may have some luck using the Rendition Beta 5 > >reference drivers. We were able to keep it from crashing > >with these drivers, but they still were unable to run the > >the graphics to their full potential. > >You can find the drivers at; > >http://www.rendition.com/usersupport.html > >You need to make sure that you have the proper bios > >version for your card and thoroughly read the information > >about using reference drivers versus the ones your card > >manufacturer supplies. These are "Beta" drivers, so your > >mileage may vary. > >Shawn Wise/Papyrus > why is it that PAPY fully endorced rendition in ICR2, N2, N99, and GPL, but not > in N3. I bought a card to run PAPY games, and now you abondon us??
Brian Short 16 Sep 1999#492915
> > You may have some luck using the Rendition Beta 5 > > reference drivers. We were able to keep it from crashing > > with these drivers, but they still were unable to run the > > the graphics to their full potential. > Since my card is no longer useful can you guys give me some suggestions on a > new card. > First assumption. Money is no object. Video card will run N3, and GPL plus > the normal other business apps stuff. This is the "mother of all video > cards". Top of the line stuff here. The Riva GeForce 256 is coming out very soon now, within the next month. This card, from reports I've read, is VERY VERY VERY fast. It's too bad Papy doesnt support OpenGL though... luckily the card supports DirectX, and I hear DirectX 7 will have special support for this card. Check out the Riva TNT 2. Should word very well... Wish I could get on (no agp for me on my aging 266) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Voodoo3 3500. Unless you got a monster p3-600 and then you could look at the TNT2 Ultra running D3D for N3 and OpenGL beta2 driver for GPL. Voodoo3 2000 or 3000. You could also get a Voodoo2 card, but they are running about the same price as a Voodoo3 card and its performance is about roughly half of that of a Voodoo3 2000. But since the Voodoo2 is a 3D card, it means you can run the Herc as your 2D card and use the Voodoo2 as your 3D card.
JTRIV 16 Sep 1999#492917
Thank you very much. I had even pulled my rendition card, but my onboard video wasn't much better. I reinstalled my Blitz V2200 with the beta drivers and now I am running in D3D mode. My frame rate is good and everything looks great. I'm still going to get a V3, but at least this will hold me over till I decide which card and find the best deal. Thanks again... JTRIV
Quoted text (29 lines)> You may have some luck using the Rendition Beta 5 > reference drivers. We were able to keep it from crashing > with these drivers, but they still were unable to run the > the graphics to their full potential. > You can find the drivers at; > http://www.rendition.com/usersupport.html > You need to make sure that you have the proper bios > version for your card and thoroughly read the information > about using reference drivers versus the ones your card > manufacturer supplies. These are "Beta" drivers, so your > mileage may vary. > Shawn Wise/Papyrus > >Hi all, just wanted to let everyone know, the Hercules Thriller will NOT > work > >with N3. I can run N3 in software mode, but when trying to use the D3D > option > >in N3, the game locks up when I go to the track. I called Sierra tech > support, > >and they basically said they knew about this, and that they couldn't help > me > >with it. > >Q
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Huh? All the latest games work excellent with my 8MB AGP Hercules Thriller card, so why should I buy a new videocard for N3? If it was one hell of new racing game then I would but not for a upgraded N2 ( is all I read, even from those who like N3) regards, Harald
Your going to see more and more "latest" games struggling with the rendition cards I'm afraid. They really screwed themselves when the shelved the 3300 chip . -- Don Burnette Dburn on Ten [link lost in import: /%204.htm] > >Time to > > ***and realize that except for ICR2 and GPL, there is no reason to > > own a Rendition based video card anymore. > > dave henrie > Huh? All the latest games work excellent with my 8MB AGP Hercules Thriller > card, so why should I buy a new videocard for N3? If it was one hell of new > racing game then I would but not for a upgraded N2 ( is all I read, even > from those who like N3) > regards, > Harald
Terry Welch 17 Sep 1999#493258
That will work just fine, though you can find the 3000 at lower prices over the Internet. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
JTRIV 17 Sep 1999#493259
Well, everything looked great, but the frame rate turned out the be the killer here. In D3D mode, I'm getting between 10-15 fps, dropping to 5 in heavy traffic. It is totally unplayable. I switched to software mode and it ran between 15 and 20 fps with drops to 10 in heavy traffic. I've got a PIII 450 with Matrox G200 that it looks great on. I'm using it for work, but I guess I'll swap this weekend. It gets a solid 30 fps in D3D. I'm dissapointed with Papy bailing on rendition. It has been passed by the other video mfgs, but since GPL supported it, I expected N3 to also. This is really N2 updated, and to get the full effect I need a TNT2 or a 3dfx V2000,V3000 for video and an MX300 for the full effect of sound. Along with some speakers, I'm already over $200 (could easily push $400 with the TNT2's). I'm going to have to decide what to do. I raced multiplayer tonight with a friend, and it got ugly..lol. The AI cars were slow at 100% and irratic. I got a black flag because a car would not pass me and get back in his position under caution. It was fun, and the new graphics looks awesome, just slow on my system. The sound is better even though I just have an Awe 64. Indy looks cool. I'm still working it out.. but so far I'm dissapointed. JTRIV
Quoted text (58 lines)> Thank you very much. I had even pulled my rendition card, but my onboard > video wasn't much better. I reinstalled my Blitz V2200 with the beta > drivers and now I am running in D3D mode. My frame rate is good and > everything looks great. > I'm still going to get a V3, but at least this will hold me over till I > decide which card and find the best deal. > Thanks again... > JTRIV > > You may have some luck using the Rendition Beta 5 > > reference drivers. We were able to keep it from crashing > > with these drivers, but they still were unable to run the > > the graphics to their full potential. > > You can find the drivers at; > > http://www.rendition.com/usersupport.html > > You need to make sure that you have the proper bios > > version for your card and thoroughly read the information > > about using reference drivers versus the ones your card > > manufacturer supplies. These are "Beta" drivers, so your > > mileage may vary. > > Shawn Wise/Papyrus > > >Hi all, just wanted to let everyone know, the Hercules Thriller will NOT > > work > > >with N3. I can run N3 in software mode, but when trying to use the D3D > > option > > >in N3, the game locks up when I go to the track. I called Sierra tech > > support, > > >and they basically said they knew about this, and that they couldn't help > > me > > >with it. > > >Q > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > jtriv > Netscape Conference Address > Netscape Conference DLS Server > Additional Information: > Last Name > First Name jtriv > Version 2.1
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