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Buy GPL...............again??

7 posts by 7 people · 15 Sep 1999 - 17 Sep 1999

MacWu 15 Sep 1999#492551
Hi there, I thought I'd send this post to explain a problem I had lately. My GPL CD would no longer function, all other CD's work so my drive is ok. I had no other solution (except maybe a pirate copy) than to buy GPL again.......... I did this with a little bit of regret, money is money, but GPL is being sold over here (France) with Viper Racing fo free, (It says "Buy GPL, Viper Racing Offered", so It's definately not the other way round), for the modest fee of 249Ffr, thats 25,,, $40 if Im not too far off. I think thats pretty good, but several things crossed my mind: 1> Is GPL going to be taken off the shelves completely? <Thats what the salesman told me when I took some interest In asking about GPL sales etc, he has no idea to what point so many of us are ***ed to this sim, but thats besides the point, what Im getting at is what will happen if another CD goes kapoot and I cant find GPL in the stores? Then I'll be forced to think ahead and Pirate the thing.....which brings me to my second point 2> Sierra have made it impossible to us Europeans to play (offline) GPL without the CD in the drive, which means in , out , in, out and what happens to the CD?? It gets scratched of course. Its not that I dont take care of my CDs, but it's obvious to me that Its because I play GPL so much, but then I listen to Music on my PC, install other programs, that after so many in-outs of the CD drive, that its surface has degraded.But then Sierra didnt think of this did they? So... 3> The point in penalising us Europeans is because they are scared we lend CD to friends, they copy it, pirating under whatever form, but have they thought that this prevention might actually become the cause of Pirating? If I was rich,(which I'm not <G>) I'd be happy to buy a load of GPL original CD's, because its the BEST SIM THERE IS. But I'd prefer by far buying it straight from papyrus, for their hard work, than from Sierra. 4> So I demand of Sierra that either they send me a GPL CD every time it ends up kapoot , OR they bring a patch out, so that our European versions work without the cd OR they give me permission to make copies of it, I know that officially Its allowed to make one back-up copy, but however little it costs for a blank cd(and you need a CDR), It really shouldnt be my problem should it? Or am I talking a load of bollocks? :o) I should put smileys everywhere on this letter, I'm not taking this seriously so dont write ***in letters back guys please Ross "The Boss" MacGregor (alias MacWun on GSB) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) : o):o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) PS: <G> PPS<BG> PPPS<VBG> PPPPS..........LOL
Han Monsees 16 Sep 1999#492838
> ... > >My GPL CD would no longer function, all other CD's work so my drive > >is ok. I had no other solution (except maybe a pirate copy) than to buy GPL > >again.. I think there is another solution: Send the CD to the manufacturer of importer. They will replace the CD (virtually) free. I think they are even legally forced to do that (you should ask de consumentenbond). Furthermore, it is NOT illegal to copy (let copy) a CD for backup purposes. I think it is a good idea to backup the most important CD's, store them in a safe place and use the copied CD's to use. So it is legal to copy your new CD to replace the original one and to sell the new CD. Then you have a licensed version, a backup for your own purposes and (partly) your money back! Anyone who (dis)agrees with my intepretation of (Dutch) laws? greetings, hgrm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- drs. H.G.R. Monsees tel : 035-6 83 33 80 GSM : 06-23 57 92 48 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent using 100% recycled electrons. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoted text (7 lines)> 2> Sierra have made it impossible to us Europeans to play (offline) GPL > without the CD in the drive, which means in , out , in, out and what happens > to the CD?? It gets scratched of course. Its not that I dont take care of my > CDs, but it's obvious to me that Its because I play GPL so much, but then I > listen to Music on my PC, install other programs, that after so many in-outs > of the CD drive, that its surface has degraded.But then Sierra didnt think > of this did they? So...
I found a NoCD patch somewhere, maybe it was at www.theuspits.com. I haven't tried it though. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying
You will be able to install from the copied CD but you will NOT be able to play the game with that CD! The protection system prevents it. > > ... > > >My GPL CD would no longer function, all other CD's work so my drive > > >is ok. I had no other solution (except maybe a pirate copy) than to buy GPL
Quoted text (34 lines)> > >again.. > I think there is another solution: Send the CD to the manufacturer of > importer. They will replace the CD (virtually) free. I think they are even > legally forced to do that (you should ask de consumentenbond). > Furthermore, it is NOT illegal to copy (let copy) a CD for backup > purposes. I think it is a good idea to backup the most important CD's, > store them in a safe place and use the copied CD's to use. > So it is legal to copy your new CD to replace the original one and to sell > the new CD. Then you have a licensed version, a backup for your own > purposes and (partly) your money back! > Anyone who (dis)agrees with my intepretation of (Dutch) laws? > greetings, > hgrm > > .. > > >2> Sierra have made it impossible to us Europeans to play (offline) GPL > > >without the CD in the drive, > > You just have to tweak 1 little byte... > > And you can just backup those 133Mb of the GPL directory, and copy it > > back later on if you lose it. It doesn't seem to do a lot with the > > registry. > > Ruud van Gaal > > MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl > > Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[snip] :) Nice attempt at eqivocation, but I don't think Dutch laws are that rotten. It's not as if we were talking about Belgi... (duck and take cover). Seriously, if you read the license agreemanet of virtually any piece of software, you will see that you did not "buy the software" or "buy the CD". What you bought is usually the right to *run* the software on one computer at a time. You bought a license - the physical objects that come with it (CD, box, manual, etc.) are not the most important objects of your purchase, the license is. Now, if you somehow get hold of two CDs, but have only one license, and you sell one of the CDs to somebody else and keep using the other, one of you two is using a pirated copy, even if you both have original CDs. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.
Remco Moedt 17 Sep 1999#493194
Quoted text (18 lines)>> ... >> >My GPL CD would no longer function, all other CD's work so my drive >> >is ok. I had no other solution (except maybe a pirate copy) than to buy GPL >> >again.. >I think there is another solution: Send the CD to the manufacturer of >importer. They will replace the CD (virtually) free. I think they are even >legally forced to do that (you should ask de consumentenbond). >Furthermore, it is NOT illegal to copy (let copy) a CD for backup >purposes. I think it is a good idea to backup the most important CD's, >store them in a safe place and use the copied CD's to use. >So it is legal to copy your new CD to replace the original one and to sell >the new CD. Then you have a licensed version, a backup for your own >purposes and (partly) your money back! >Anyone who (dis)agrees with my intepretation of (Dutch) laws?
I disagree. When you buy software, you buy the right to use the software. That's why you're allowed to create a backup of the original CD. So when you sell the original CD, you actually sell the rights to use the software, ergo you're not allowed anymore to use the software, even if you've a working CD.... Remco

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