Mika, watch that bump !!!!

Heartbreaking :-( Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm around the shoulder. Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. idav ps. no worries/problems regarding GP3, Crammond knows his stuff although I was a bit surprised to see an advert in this month's Edge magazine wanting programmers and artists for F1 sims at Microprose/Hasbro.Maybe they're being brought in to polish up the game quicker.... pss. downloaded a c64/amiga emulator the other night and spent hours playing Revs and Stunt car racer...aaahhhh nostalgia. psss: Did Crammond write "The Sentinel" for the spectrum ?. You know that weird game where you had to get to the top of a mountain without being seen by the Sentinel, I remember you had to morph into tree's and such like, you won the game by getting higher than the sentinel and absorbing him/her/it. pssss(again). I've no worries about Gp3's handling and graphics but I hope he includes/corrects little things such as a realistic pit-stop time when you***up and break a wing or something - I mean really, 9 secs to change a f-wing.

Jeff Crammond did write "The Sentinel". It was released on a C64 as well (loved it) and you can now get it 3d-enhanced for a PC too :-) Revs was the start of the whole sim gendre ... loved it (played it with the keyboard 'till I dropped). Stunt Car racer was brilliant too. Regards, David Mocnay

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>Heartbreaking :-( >Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm >around the shoulder. >Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, >you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. >idav >ps. no worries/problems regarding GP3, Crammond knows his stuff although I >was a bit surprised to see an advert in this month's Edge magazine wanting >programmers and artists for F1 sims at Microprose/Hasbro.Maybe they're being >brought in to polish up the game quicker.... >pss. downloaded a c64/amiga emulator the other night and spent hours playing >Revs and Stunt car racer...aaahhhh nostalgia. >psss: Did Crammond write "The Sentinel" for the spectrum ?. You know that >weird game where you had to get to the top of a mountain without being seen >by the Sentinel, I remember you had to morph into tree's and such like, you >won the game by getting higher than the sentinel and absorbing him/her/it. >pssss(again). I've no worries about Gp3's handling and graphics but I hope >he includes/corrects little things such as a realistic pit-stop time when >you***up and break a wing or something - I mean really, 9 secs to change >a f-wing.

Wanna bet Mika has a foot clutch next race??

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> Heartbreaking :-( > Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm > around the shoulder. > Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, > you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. > idav > ps. no worries/problems regarding GP3, Crammond knows his stuff although I > was a bit surprised to see an advert in this month's Edge magazine wanting > programmers and artists for F1 sims at Microprose/Hasbro.Maybe they're

being > brought in to polish up the game quicker.... > pss. downloaded a c64/amiga emulator the other night and spent hours playing > Revs and Stunt car racer...aaahhhh nostalgia. > psss: Did Crammond write "The Sentinel" for the spectrum ?. You know that > weird game where you had to get to the top of a mountain without being seen > by the Sentinel, I remember you had to morph into tree's and such like, you > won the game by getting higher than the sentinel and absorbing him/her/it. > pssss(again). I've no worries about Gp3's handling and graphics but I hope > he includes/corrects little things such as a realistic pit-stop time when > you***up and break a wing or something - I mean really, 9 secs to change > a f-wing.

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> Heartbreaking :-( > Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm > around the shoulder. > Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, > you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. > idav

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> Heartbreaking :-( > Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm > around the shoulder. I was over the moon! Ferrari supporter Frederick :)

He's a wuss! Jim Clark wouldn't have whimpered. Neither would have Gurney, Brabham, Hulme, Amon, Hill (the proper one)........etcetera. They would've turned the air blue then had a beer! > Never seen a driver this shattered since I started watching F1 in 1977. Made

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> me cringe, > Jan. > ---- > > Heartbreaking :-( > > Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the

arm > > around the shoulder. > > Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, > > you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. > > idav > <snip> -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

> pss. downloaded a c64/amiga emulator the other night and spent hours playing > Revs and Stunt car racer...aaahhhh nostalgia. C64/Amiga? Where? Cheers, /ft, still with an A500 under his desk after all these years

Reminds me of Senna at Monaco in 1998. He crashed out while nearly a minute up on Prost. His tears were not public ones although it is reported that he went back to his appartment and openly bawled out. He was not seen until the next day Mark > Never seen a driver this shattered since I started watching F1 in 1977. Made

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> me cringe, > Jan. > ---- > > Heartbreaking :-( > > Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the

arm > > around the shoulder. > > Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, > > you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. > > idav > <snip>

Yes, too much money in the sports these days. They don't take one single chance out on the track (Coulthard must be the most obvious example), and when they do one unforced error, they're devastated... The walk back to the pit and your angry team boss must be terrible... ---Asgeir--- > He's a wuss! > Jim Clark wouldn't have whimpered. Neither would have Gurney, Brabham, > Hulme, Amon, Hill (the proper one)........etcetera. They would've turned > the air blue then had a beer!

Yes, where ??? Frank > > pss. downloaded a c64/amiga emulator the other night and spent hours playing > > Revs and Stunt car racer...aaahhhh nostalgia. > C64/Amiga? Where? > Cheers, > /ft, still with an A500 under his desk after all these years

> Reminds me of Senna at Monaco in 1998. He crashed out while nearly a minute Senna died prior to 1998. Frederick

> > Heartbreaking :-( > > Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm > > around the shoulder. > I was over the moon! > Ferrari supporter > Frederick :) You...you....have no soul !!!! :-) Irvine still hasn't a prayer, car and man just aren't good enough. idav

> > pss. downloaded a c64/amiga emulator the other night and spent hours playing > > Revs and Stunt car racer...aaahhhh nostalgia. > C64/Amiga? Where? > Cheers, > /ft, still with an A500 under his desk after all these years Hello Fredrik, Ahhh nostalgia.. There are loads of emulators for different computersor consoles on the net try: http://davesclassics.warzone.com or www.zophar.net or www.emuhq.com Just go to the relevant section - say c64 and get the relevant information and emulators, remember you may need additional files as well so make sure you get everything :-) Once you get the emulator you have to then find the games, my favourite site is: for c64 - http://www.emucamp.com/c64/ and for amiga sites go to www.zophar.net links page and scroll down, try http://timewarp6.cjb.net Remember not every game works and they can be a pain to set up but nearly every good site has a forum where if you get stuck you can ask for help and advice..... Good luck and have fun hunting..... idav

[pointers to C64/Amiga emulators snipped] Thanks a lot, man. I'd completely forgotten about the UAE project and written it off as vaporware years ago. That one is going onto my Linux partition as soon as I can tear myself away from GPL for fif*** minutes. :) Cheers, /ft

>> Reminds me of Senna at Monaco in 1998. He crashed out while nearly a minute >Senna died prior to 1998. >Frederick I think he meant '88. I remember the incident but not the year so can't confirm the accuracy. Cheers Mark Reading, UK

>He's a wuss! >Jim Clark wouldn't have whimpered. Neither would have Gurney, Brabham, >Hulme, Amon, Hill (the proper one)........etcetera. They would've turned >the air blue then had a beer! Wuss? Oh how harsh you are! It's a shame that the 'sport' has 'progressed' the way it has. The pressure and level of public scrutiny are phenominally intense nowadays. Mika could have done without that helicopter shot. I was feeling disappointed for Mika having made an unforced error (I didn't see why he should have got the 'push' board on a one stopper - maybe McLaren believe they have a right to getting out of the pits without losing the lead...) and also felt like I was invading his privacy as he tried to hide in the trees. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned the Senna/Monaco armco interface from a few years back. Wouldn't have been too nice if some paparazzi had hunted him down to his apartment where he broke down. Senna, wuss? No. Cheers, Mark Reading, UK (long time MH fan)

> [pointers to C64/Amiga emulators snipped] > Thanks a lot, man. I'd completely forgotten about the UAE project and written > it off as vaporware years ago. That one is going onto my Linux partition as > soon as I can tear myself away from GPL for fif*** minutes. :) > Cheers, > /ft no problemo my friend !! Try "Fellow" amiga emulator as well, I think its better than UAE, the only hard part is trying to figure out how to get your controllers working :-( idav

Indeed, Jacques Villeneuve was quoted today in the paper (french Canadian ones) " Pas trop coriace" that can be translated to "Not to tough" and he also wondered on how Mika's Team felt seeing him. Of course Villeneuve has been going thru a lot, after he won the championship in '97... C. Giroux.

Yeah, I feel really sorry for the bastard. Making all those millions, driving the fastest, most sophisticated racing cars in the world. The fastest car by a street and already a World Champion. What a tragic life!

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> Heartbreaking :-( > Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm > around the shoulder. > Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, > you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. > idav > ps. no worries/problems regarding GP3, Crammond knows his stuff although I > was a bit surprised to see an advert in this month's Edge magazine wanting > programmers and artists for F1 sims at Microprose/Hasbro.Maybe they're being > brought in to polish up the game quicker.... > pss. downloaded a c64/amiga emulator the other night and spent hours playing > Revs and Stunt car racer...aaahhhh nostalgia. > psss: Did Crammond write "The Sentinel" for the spectrum ?. You know that > weird game where you had to get to the top of a mountain without being seen > by the Sentinel, I remember you had to morph into tree's and such like, you > won the game by getting higher than the sentinel and absorbing him/her/it. > pssss(again). I've no worries about Gp3's handling and graphics but I hope > he includes/corrects little things such as a realistic pit-stop time when > you***up and break a wing or something - I mean really, 9 secs to change > a f-wing.

I really felt sorry for the guy. I'm sure the Italian crowd didn't help matters much. I'm sure Mika will still with the championship. He's been on pole like 11 times this year, and only won 4 races, he's got to be feeling very unlucky.

>> Heartbreaking :-( >> Really feel sorry for the guy although well done that marshal with the arm >> around the shoulder. >> Cheer up Mika, Irvine isn't in the chase - what has happened to Ferrari ?, >> you're only worry may be Heinz-Harold who's flying in the Jordan. >I really felt sorry for the guy. I'm sure the Italian crowd didn't help >matters much. I heard the Italian ferrari fans threw little stones at him while he was working his way back to the pits. Now, you may feel whatever you like about Mika but that's stupid!!! Hena I'm sure Mika will still with the championship. He's been on

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:06:42 +0100, "Mark Davison" >I think he meant '88. I remember the incident but not the year so can't >confirm the accuracy. Yes it was Monaco 1988 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Home-page : http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7917 Il sito di ISF1mod : http://www.blissett.com/isf1/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------

I read in the news that there were riots after the f1 at monza between Schumacher and Hakinnen fans. I thought this shit only happened at soccer :( Andre

> You...you....have no soul !!!! :-) > Irvine still hasn't a prayer, car and man just aren't good enough. > idav Yes I agree with that point! hehe. Frederick

> I read in the news that there were riots after the f1 at monza between > Schumacher and Hakinnen fans. > I thought this shit only happened at soccer :( No, an event (or sport) just has to get big enough, and the loonies will show up... ;^( l8er ronny -- "I heard if you play the NT-4.0-CD backwards, you get a satanic message." "That's nothing, if you play it forward, it installs NT-4.0"

It is amazing how often the least common denominator at a gathering will be the one that prevails. I guess everyone can regress easily enough, but not all people can progress.........

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 03:41:05 +0100, Frederick >I was over the moon! >Ferrari supporter >Frederick :) "Over the moon", with Mika a country mile ahead, romping off into the distance, Eddie struggling down out of the points? You're easily pleased - Jean Todt must have been crying into his pastis at the thought of Nurburgring to come... Cheers! John

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:08:44 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" >He's a wuss! >Jim Clark wouldn't have whimpered. Neither would have Gurney, Brabham, >Hulme, Amon, Hill (the proper one)........etcetera. They would've turned >the air blue then had a beer! Then again, they weren't being paid several million dollars to beat a man paid several tens of millions of dollars. I'm sure Geoff Hurst would never have blubbed like Gazza, but times are changed. Cheers! John

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:06:42 +0100, "Mark Davison" >I think he meant '88. I remember the incident but not the year so can't >confirm the accuracy. 1988 indeed. Prost got stuck behind Berger at the start and couldn't pass, so Senna romped away. When Prost finally got past after 50 laps or so he started setting fastest laps - Senna responded (probably to show he could), then screwed up and stuffed it in the armco approaching the tunnel. Cheers! John

Yes we all know I meant 1988 Let's get pedantic about it for the sake of a typo! Mk > > Reminds me of Senna at Monaco in 1998. He crashed out while nearly a minute > Senna died prior to 1998. > Frederick

The most important part of that incident was that it turned Ayrton into a champion. He was trying to set fast lap, which was totally unnecessary, so... was the wreck. He recalled it as the lesson that matured his race day will. Now, let's see what Mika does with his.... -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA > Reminds me of Senna at Monaco in 1998. He crashed out while nearly a minute > up on Prost. His tears were not public ones although it is reported that he > went back to his appartment and openly bawled out. > He was not seen until the next day > Mark > > Never seen a driver this shattered since I started watching F1 in 1977. > Made > > me cringe, > > Jan. > > ----

Do you really, for one moment, think that he burst into tears because the thought of how much he was being paid passed through his mind? If so then you really do not understand the human psyche, John.

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> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:08:44 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > >He's a wuss! > >Jim Clark wouldn't have whimpered. Neither would have Gurney, Brabham, > >Hulme, Amon, Hill (the proper one)........etcetera. They would've turned > >the air blue then had a beer! > Then again, they weren't being paid several million dollars to beat a > man paid several tens of millions of dollars. I'm sure Geoff Hurst > would never have blubbed like Gazza, but times are changed. > Cheers! > John

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>Do you really, for one moment, think that he burst into tears because the >thought of how much he was being paid passed through his mind? If so then >you really do not understand the human psyche, John. Senna did the same, of course. And if you really think Men shouldn't be able to cry or express motion, it's you with the problem, not Mika. Z. Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

Isn't it just a crying shame that sarcasm and satire are so difficult to get accross on the Internet? And, of course, the problem is compounded by the so-called "language barrier". (My first post was tongue-in-cheek, Mr. Z.) > >Do you really, for one moment, think that he burst into tears because the > >thought of how much he was being paid passed through his mind? If so then > >you really do not understand the human psyche, John. > Senna did the same, of course. > And if you really think Men shouldn't be able to cry or express motion, it's > you with the problem, not Mika. > Z. > Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying. -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

> 1988 indeed. Prost got stuck behind Berger at the start and couldn't > pass, so Senna romped away. When Prost finally got past after 50 laps > or so he started setting fastest laps - Senna responded (probably to > show he could), then screwed up and stuffed it in the armco > approaching the tunnel. That was what impressed me most about Prost, he "never" drove faster than he had to to get the most out of a race, and if needed he could run with the fastest of them, maybe not Senna when he was in one of his "moods", but certainly everyone else, bit boring, but very impressive........... -- Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

This from my _Grand Prix '88_ (p. 66, sidebar): "When they told me Alain had overtaken Berger, I went faster for a few laps," Senna would later say. Alarmed, Dennis had a word in the Frenchman's ear [the famed Dennis-ian commitment to letting the drivers hash it out??;) ], then called his other driver to inform him that Prost would not be trying to attack. Only a few laps later, Senna's car bounced off the guardrail on the inside of the right-hand Poitier corner and then smashed into the barriers on the outsde of the corner. . . . . . . .it was a Brazilian whose call roused Senna. On first reflection, he concluded that the accident had been entirey his fault, for heeding Dennis' advice and slowing down. "It was my mistake," he said, "by going slow I lost concentration." Later that night, though, he changed his story. Examination of the car revealed a flat rear tyre, and Senna knew that he had not touched the barrier with the rear of the car. Together, he and Dennis concluded that the accident had been caused by a puncture. "A couple of laps before, I had a big slide in the *** Square," he said. The flat tyre explains that." --------------------------------- what to say? DK

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> > 1988 indeed. Prost got stuck behind Berger at the start and couldn't > > pass, so Senna romped away. When Prost finally got past after 50 laps > > or so he started setting fastest laps - Senna responded (probably to > > show he could), then screwed up and stuffed it in the armco > > approaching the tunnel. > That was what impressed me most about Prost, he "never" drove faster > than he had to to get the most out of a race, and if needed he could run > with the fastest of them, maybe not Senna when he was in one of his > "moods", but certainly everyone else, bit boring, but very > impressive........... > -- > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

I don't feel sorry for him. When hes well in front hes fine, but under pressure he cracks both with driving and emotions. \If hes well behind and can't win he drives thru the foeld and doesn't chase in case he can't pass Coulthard. Too used toi being *** and can't take being seen to be not as *** as he was. Couthard has gone thru the tough time and got out of it. Hakkinen will be tense in the last few races and I expect this will show. What gets me his is subtle negative comments about Coulthard. He should win the Champ as Couthard has been told to let him win. So if haikkinen wins with Couthard just behind him in all races, well we will never know if the best man won, and so will Hakkinen and the F1 fans.

"Then, of course, Senna - more than 50 seconds ahead of Prost in the race - drove into the barrier at the 40mph Portier corner with just 12 laps to go. It was the biggst mistake of his career and again showed how big the name of Prost loomed in Senna's head. The Frenchman had made a bad start and got stuck behind Gerhard Berger for 50-odd laps. But despite the huge advantage Senna held over him, as soon as he got free Prost set the fastest lap. So Senna did a quicker one two laps later. Ron Dennis was on the radio shouting at him to slow down. Then he didn't come round...." From an interview with Jo Ramirez, McLaren's team coordinator. Cheers! John On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:37:19 -0500, "david karr"

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>This from my _Grand Prix '88_ (p. 66, sidebar): >"When they told me Alain had overtaken Berger, I went faster for a few >laps," Senna would later say. Alarmed, Dennis had a word in the Frenchman's >ear [the famed Dennis-ian commitment to letting the drivers hash it >out??;) ], then called his other driver to inform him that Prost would not >be trying to attack. Only a few laps later, Senna's car bounced off the >guardrail on the inside of the right-hand Poitier corner and then smashed >into the barriers on the outsde of the corner.

> Yes we all know I meant 1988 > Let's get pedantic about it for the sake of a typo! I wasnt getting pedantic, just for a moment you confused me ;) Frederick

Yes. Prost was very much Fangio-like in this respect. The old maestro once said that the art of winning races was to do it in the slowest possible time, therefore increasing chances of staying on the road. Mark

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> > 1988 indeed. Prost got stuck behind Berger at the start and couldn't > > pass, so Senna romped away. When Prost finally got past after 50 laps > > or so he started setting fastest laps - Senna responded (probably to > > show he could), then screwed up and stuffed it in the armco > > approaching the tunnel. > That was what impressed me most about Prost, he "never" drove faster > than he had to to get the most out of a race, and if needed he could run > with the fastest of them, maybe not Senna when he was in one of his > "moods", but certainly everyone else, bit boring, but very > impressive........... > -- > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/