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The Greater Realism

7 posts by 6 people · 08 Sep 1999 - 09 Sep 1999

People who read this newsgroup ! One of us is Jaques Villeneuve - I know that exactly ! The main questions to all and Jaques solely: 1. The car behavior in modern F1 sims is quite different. Main opponets are MGPRS2 and GP2 (I guess OF1R is just a joke).I believe that (my opinion) GP2 car more exactly provides pedals sensetivity, stereeng wheel response accuracy etc... But MGPRS2 was developed in cooperatin with Renault engeneers !!! And it has absolutely enormous sensetiveness of gas and brake pedals I cannot believe that it's the feature of reality. 2........ 3........ Many things. These games are quite different. Jaquees, Respo-o-o-nd !!! We need it.
Hi Warren! Sorry, I'm not Jacques :-) (Did you know that he signed his autographs with "I survived Eau Rouge" ater his accident? :-)) ) But I can tell you what Nick Heidfeld, Formula 3000 Champion, McLaren Test Driver, Prost GP driver 2000 said after he drove MGPRS2 in a hyperstimulator: "If you are quick with THIS, you are quick with the real thing!" :-) Greetings, Markus
Pete 08 Sep 1999#491079
Jacques might be more likely to reply if you spell his name right :o) > People who read this newsgroup ! >One of us is Jaques Villeneuve - I know that exactly ! >The main questions to all and Jaques solely: > 1. The car behavior in modern F1 sims is quite different. Main opponets >are MGPRS2 and GP2 (I guess OF1R is just a joke).I believe that (my opinion)
Quoted text (8 lines)>GP2 car more exactly provides pedals sensetivity, stereeng wheel response >accuracy etc... But MGPRS2 was developed in cooperatin with Renault >engeneers !!! And it has absolutely enormous sensetiveness of gas and brake >pedals I cannot believe that it's the feature of reality. > 2........ > 3........ >Many things. These games are quite different. > Jaquees, Respo-o-o-nd !!! We need it.
Mea culpa !!!!! I am really-really-really-really-really-really-really sorry!!! I have always troubles in french. Do not kick me strong...
Mesh 08 Sep 1999#491081
I know that Jacques used to / still does have an incredibly short amount of travel in his throttle pedal. Somewhere around 2-3 cm to control 800bhp!!! (correct me if I'm wrong I read this when he first came into F1). I reckon my microsoft pedals have 7cm travel and cannot control the throttle at all well in grand prix legends when in first gear. (If anyone is next to me on the grid online, please give room ;-) I think one of the best features in games like gpl and toca2 is the advanced controller options, non-linear throttle helps me enormously. I don't know if that is realistic but it is realistic for different drivers to have their own personal settings to help them, so this feature in games actually increases the realism IMO. MeshJ
ymenard 09 Sep 1999#491364
That's true, his travel is amazingly small. And it's why he is so weak when racing in wet-conditions. He simply cannot compete against the throttle-featherers. My CH pedals have almost 20cm of travel in radius, I know I probably loose 0.01second each time I go back on the throttle since it takes more time than if I had 2-3cm. Just wait until you try Motorsims's controller setup for AMA SBK. You can't get any better than it ;) -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
You can probably see that reflected in the way he drives - look at how much he slid the tail around compared to Hill in the same car! Cheers! John

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