Apeal for UN intervention - Stop East Timor Genocide

<Most of this liberal ***snipped> First of all, we don't belong there. Second, as a taxpayer and a member of the Armed Forces, I'm sick and tired of sending our troops in harm's way for no particular reason. Why should Americans die instead of these people? Remember, the purpose of the military is to kill people and break things. If you send the military over there and tell them not to kill anyone since you can't tell the friendlies from the enemies, what purpose are they serving except to be targets? I think the perfect solution would be to get all journalists out of these kind of countries. We wouldn't have known the Ethiopians were starving if it weren't for some journalist reporting about it. Once we found out about it, we sent money that went to corporate officials, we sent canned goods and no can openers and we sang a song. Six months later, we went back to our lives and the people are still starving. Of course they could solve their own problem if they would only MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!!! When Iraq took over Kuwait, we got to take our tanks and our smart bombs and we got to kick some Iraqi butt. Sure, Apache pilots got to kick some US Infantry butts, but they did some ***kicking. We shot some rounds, freed Kuwait and got to put a patch on our right shoulders to show we've been in contact. We had massive parades and felt like heros when we returned. We were happy. When we went to Somolia, we got to deliver pizzas. That's no fun. We also lost some good men all because the liberal idiots wouldn't let us run our own war. If they'd let the military run it, it would have been over in two weeks and everyone would have been happy. But no, we went in with hand***on and some didn't come back. We came back looking like fools. We don't like that. We went to Bosnia because our Commander in Chief liked to walk the Halls of Power with his pants around his knees. He had fun and we had to pay. We didn't lose anyone during the conflict, but we made a mess of things because once again, we weren't able to do it like we'd like. Now, the people went there to help take back their homeland won't go back because the bombed the ***out of their homes. Then here you come thinking you can fix it by sending us over there. It doesn't work like that. We need a purpose and a mission statement that says that once we complete X, Y and Z, the conflict is over and we can go home. This liberal mission statement that goes something like, "you can go home once they like each other" just doesn't work. I raised my right hand and affirmed that I'd defend my country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I didn't agree to leave my family and die in the place of someone in some country I've never head of. Why should I have to die instead of them? Are they going to come raise my son? No. Are you? Nope. Once it's over, you'll be too busy stopping some farmer from planting corn because it disrupts the life of the blue-footed tree moth to raise my son. If you or your neighbor were in harm's way, I'd be the first one their to defend you. If you really want to get the US involved, hire a *** and a photographer and send them to the White House. -- When I die, I hope they bury me at Wal-Mart so my wife will visit me everyday.

You sir, are a complete and utter idiot. God help us if there are many more like you out there.. Now stay the hell out of this newsgroup and crawl back under the rock from which you came. =rez=

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> > In the referendum promoted by UN 80 % of East Timor people voted for > > Independence. Since then thousands on people have been killed > > JUST FOR THEIR VOTE . Almost all international journalists have been > > forced to leave East Timor ( only four rested ) . > > United Nations are LEAVING East Timor TOMORROW 1999-09-09 07h00 > > ( Pacific time ) , leaving the East Timor people ALONE, against those > > who are KILLING them. > > In 3 days more than 300.000 people have been forced to move. > > Indonisian policies and militaries have not been able to keep > > peace and have no conditions to maitain peace in East Timor. > > United Nations MUST send a Peace Keeping Force to East Timor. > <Most of this liberal ***snipped> > First of all, we don't belong there. Second, as a taxpayer and a > member of the Armed Forces, I'm sick and tired of sending our troops in > harm's way for no particular reason. Why should Americans die instead of > these people? Remember, the purpose of the military is to kill people > and break things. If you send the military over there and tell them not > to kill anyone since you can't tell the friendlies from the enemies, what > purpose are they serving except to be targets? > I think the perfect solution would be to get all journalists out > of these kind of countries. We wouldn't have known the Ethiopians were > starving if it weren't for some journalist reporting about it. Once we > found out about it, we sent money that went to corporate officials, we > sent canned goods and no can openers and we sang a song. Six months > later, we went back to our lives and the people are still starving. Of > course they could solve their own problem if they would only MOVE TO > WHERE THE FOOD IS!!! > When Iraq took over Kuwait, we got to take our tanks and our smart > bombs and we got to kick some Iraqi butt. Sure, Apache pilots got to > kick some US Infantry butts, but they did some ***kicking. We shot > some rounds, freed Kuwait and got to put a patch on our right shoulders > to show we've been in contact. We had massive parades and felt like > heros when we returned. We were happy. > When we went to Somolia, we got to deliver pizzas. That's no fun. > We also lost some good men all because the liberal idiots wouldn't let us > run our own war. If they'd let the military run it, it would have been > over in two weeks and everyone would have been happy. But no, we went in > with hand***on and some didn't come back. We came back looking like > fools. We don't like that. > We went to Bosnia because our Commander in Chief liked to walk the > Halls of Power with his pants around his knees. He had fun and we had to > pay. We didn't lose anyone during the conflict, but we made a mess of > things because once again, we weren't able to do it like we'd like. Now, > the people went there to help take back their homeland won't go back > because the bombed the ***out of their homes. > Then here you come thinking you can fix it by sending us over > there. It doesn't work like that. We need a purpose and a mission > statement that says that once we complete X, Y and Z, the conflict is > over and we can go home. This liberal mission statement that goes > something like, "you can go home once they like each other" just doesn't > work. I raised my right hand and affirmed that I'd defend my country > against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I didn't agree to leave my > family and die in the place of someone in some country I've never head > of. Why should I have to die instead of them? Are they going to come > raise my son? No. Are you? Nope. Once it's over, you'll be too busy > stopping some farmer from planting corn because it disrupts the life of > the blue-footed tree moth to raise my son. If you or your neighbor were > in harm's way, I'd be the first one their to defend you. > If you really want to get the US involved, hire a *** and a > photographer and send them to the White House. > -- > When I die, I hope they bury me at Wal-Mart so my wife will visit me > everyday.

(snip) Remember, the purpose of the military is to kill people and break things. (unsnip) What a wonderfully simplistic summation!! That should be on a desk calendar........prferably in the Pentagon!

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> > In the referendum promoted by UN 80 % of East Timor people voted for > > Independence. Since then thousands on people have been killed > > JUST FOR THEIR VOTE . Almost all international journalists have been > > forced to leave East Timor ( only four rested ) . > > United Nations are LEAVING East Timor TOMORROW 1999-09-09 07h00 > > ( Pacific time ) , leaving the East Timor people ALONE, against those > > who are KILLING them. > > In 3 days more than 300.000 people have been forced to move. > > Indonisian policies and militaries have not been able to keep > > peace and have no conditions to maitain peace in East Timor. > > United Nations MUST send a Peace Keeping Force to East Timor. > <Most of this liberal ***snipped> > First of all, we don't belong there. Second, as a taxpayer and a > member of the Armed Forces, I'm sick and tired of sending our troops in > harm's way for no particular reason. Why should Americans die instead of > these people? Remember, the purpose of the military is to kill people > and break things. If you send the military over there and tell them not > to kill anyone since you can't tell the friendlies from the enemies, what > purpose are they serving except to be targets? > I think the perfect solution would be to get all journalists out > of these kind of countries. We wouldn't have known the Ethiopians were > starving if it weren't for some journalist reporting about it. Once we > found out about it, we sent money that went to corporate officials, we > sent canned goods and no can openers and we sang a song. Six months > later, we went back to our lives and the people are still starving. Of > course they could solve their own problem if they would only MOVE TO > WHERE THE FOOD IS!!! > When Iraq took over Kuwait, we got to take our tanks and our smart > bombs and we got to kick some Iraqi butt. Sure, Apache pilots got to > kick some US Infantry butts, but they did some ***kicking. We shot > some rounds, freed Kuwait and got to put a patch on our right shoulders > to show we've been in contact. We had massive parades and felt like > heros when we returned. We were happy. > When we went to Somolia, we got to deliver pizzas. That's no fun. > We also lost some good men all because the liberal idiots wouldn't let us > run our own war. If they'd let the military run it, it would have been > over in two weeks and everyone would have been happy. But no, we went in > with hand***on and some didn't come back. We came back looking like > fools. We don't like that. > We went to Bosnia because our Commander in Chief liked to walk the > Halls of Power with his pants around his knees. He had fun and we had to > pay. We didn't lose anyone during the conflict, but we made a mess of > things because once again, we weren't able to do it like we'd like. Now, > the people went there to help take back their homeland won't go back > because the bombed the ***out of their homes. > Then here you come thinking you can fix it by sending us over > there. It doesn't work like that. We need a purpose and a mission > statement that says that once we complete X, Y and Z, the conflict is > over and we can go home. This liberal mission statement that goes > something like, "you can go home once they like each other" just doesn't > work. I raised my right hand and affirmed that I'd defend my country > against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I didn't agree to leave my > family and die in the place of someone in some country I've never head > of. Why should I have to die instead of them? Are they going to come > raise my son? No. Are you? Nope. Once it's over, you'll be too busy > stopping some farmer from planting corn because it disrupts the life of > the blue-footed tree moth to raise my son. If you or your neighbor were > in harm's way, I'd be the first one their to defend you. > If you really want to get the US involved, hire a *** and a > photographer and send them to the White House. > -- > When I die, I hope they bury me at Wal-Mart so my wife will visit me > everyday.

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Would you please discuss US foreign policy somewhere else ... pretty please? Hena

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>> In the referendum promoted by UN 80 % of East Timor people voted for >> Independence. Since then thousands on people have been killed >> JUST FOR THEIR VOTE . Almost all international journalists have been >> forced to leave East Timor ( only four rested ) . >> United Nations are LEAVING East Timor TOMORROW 1999-09-09 07h00 >> ( Pacific time ) , leaving the East Timor people ALONE, against those >> who are KILLING them. >> In 3 days more than 300.000 people have been forced to move. >> Indonisian policies and militaries have not been able to keep >> peace and have no conditions to maitain peace in East Timor. >> United Nations MUST send a Peace Keeping Force to East Timor. ><Most of this liberal ***snipped> > First of all, we don't belong there. Second, as a taxpayer and a >member of the Armed Forces, I'm sick and tired of sending our troops in >harm's way for no particular reason. Why should Americans die instead of >these people? Remember, the purpose of the military is to kill people >and break things. If you send the military over there and tell them not >to kill anyone since you can't tell the friendlies from the enemies, what >purpose are they serving except to be targets? > I think the perfect solution would be to get all journalists out >of these kind of countries. We wouldn't have known the Ethiopians were >starving if it weren't for some journalist reporting about it. Once we >found out about it, we sent money that went to corporate officials, we >sent canned goods and no can openers and we sang a song. Six months >later, we went back to our lives and the people are still starving. Of >course they could solve their own problem if they would only MOVE TO >WHERE THE FOOD IS!!! > When Iraq took over Kuwait, we got to take our tanks and our smart >bombs and we got to kick some Iraqi butt. Sure, Apache pilots got to >kick some US Infantry butts, but they did some ***kicking. We shot >some rounds, freed Kuwait and got to put a patch on our right shoulders >to show we've been in contact. We had massive parades and felt like >heros when we returned. We were happy. > When we went to Somolia, we got to deliver pizzas. That's no fun. >We also lost some good men all because the liberal idiots wouldn't let us >run our own war. If they'd let the military run it, it would have been >over in two weeks and everyone would have been happy. But no, we went in >with hand***on and some didn't come back. We came back looking like >fools. We don't like that. > We went to Bosnia because our Commander in Chief liked to walk the >Halls of Power with his pants around his knees. He had fun and we had to >pay. We didn't lose anyone during the conflict, but we made a mess of >things because once again, we weren't able to do it like we'd like. Now, >the people went there to help take back their homeland won't go back >because the bombed the ***out of their homes. > Then here you come thinking you can fix it by sending us over >there. It doesn't work like that. We need a purpose and a mission >statement that says that once we complete X, Y and Z, the conflict is >over and we can go home. This liberal mission statement that goes >something like, "you can go home once they like each other" just doesn't >work. I raised my right hand and affirmed that I'd defend my country >against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I didn't agree to leave my >family and die in the place of someone in some country I've never head >of. Why should I have to die instead of them? Are they going to come >raise my son? No. Are you? Nope. Once it's over, you'll be too busy >stopping some farmer from planting corn because it disrupts the life of >the blue-footed tree moth to raise my son. If you or your neighbor were >in harm's way, I'd be the first one their to defend you. > If you really want to get the US involved, hire a *** and a >photographer and send them to the White House. >-- >When I die, I hope they bury me at Wal-Mart so my wife will visit me >everyday.

That's wasn't US foreign policy--that's right-wing, knee-jerk, he-manism. Actually, maybe that IS US foreign policy . . . David

I find it very interesting that in a post discussing the need for intervention in East Timor we have a respondent who's complaining about the restrictions placed on the military by that woeful thing, civilian control. Sad. And I am simply bewildered by the weird way that environmental policy gets dragged in here. Surreal. But he didn't mention gun-control or ***, or the battle against post-modernism, eubonics, etc., so its not a very complete rant. Keep the journalists out, so we won't know about the suffering? How appalling! But, in his kindness (as if to make up for that gaffe about turining a blind eye towards it all), he does at least offer this gem, a solution for world hunger!: "Of course they could solve their own problem if they would only MOVE MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!!!" Surely this advice needs to be forwarded to all world leaders. Hadn't thunk o'that, mi'lord. (And I love the "of course"! "It's common sense you know?") Priceless. [etc.] [additional general anti-government hysteria snipped]

Grand Prix Legends is a great game isn't it? Let's talk about it! Andre On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:23:49 -0500, "david karr" >Priceless.

Yes lets, I think SCGT is pretty good as well. Andi.

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> Grand Prix Legends is a great game isn't it? > Let's talk about it! > Andre > On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:23:49 -0500, "david karr" > >Priceless.

says... How can you talk about a computer game when there are people dying all over the world?<g> -- When I die, I hope they bury me at Wal-Mart so my wife will visit me everyday.

says...

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> That's wasn't US foreign policy--that's right-wing, knee-jerk, he-manism. > Actually, maybe that IS US foreign policy . . . > David > > Would you please discuss US foreign policy somewhere else ... pretty > please? > > Hena

This is my last post on this. My main point is: Let's stop sending our troops to lands where they don't know who the enemy is to deliver food. That's not their job. Their job is to kill people and break things. That's it. Besides, the Timor thing is a religious war--Muslims vs Catholics. Years after we're gone, they will still be killing each other. -- When I die, I hope they bury me at Wal-Mart so my wife will visit me everyday.

oops! sorry folks . . .

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> Grand Prix Legends is a great game isn't it? > Let's talk about it! > Andre > On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:23:49 -0500, "david karr" > >Priceless.

Cretin!

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> > In the referendum promoted by UN 80 % of East Timor people voted for > > Independence. Since then thousands on people have been killed > > JUST FOR THEIR VOTE . Almost all international journalists have been > > forced to leave East Timor ( only four rested ) . > > United Nations are LEAVING East Timor TOMORROW 1999-09-09 07h00 > > ( Pacific time ) , leaving the East Timor people ALONE, against those > > who are KILLING them. > > In 3 days more than 300.000 people have been forced to move. > > Indonisian policies and militaries have not been able to keep > > peace and have no conditions to maitain peace in East Timor. > > United Nations MUST send a Peace Keeping Force to East Timor. > <Most of this liberal ***snipped> > First of all, we don't belong there. Second, as a taxpayer and a > member of the Armed Forces, I'm sick and tired of sending our troops in > harm's way for no particular reason. Why should Americans die instead of > these people? Remember, the purpose of the military is to kill people > and break things. If you send the military over there and tell them not > to kill anyone since you can't tell the friendlies from the enemies, what > purpose are they serving except to be targets? > I think the perfect solution would be to get all journalists out > of these kind of countries. We wouldn't have known the Ethiopians were > starving if it weren't for some journalist reporting about it. Once we > found out about it, we sent money that went to corporate officials, we > sent canned goods and no can openers and we sang a song. Six months > later, we went back to our lives and the people are still starving. Of > course they could solve their own problem if they would only MOVE TO > WHERE THE FOOD IS!!! > When Iraq took over Kuwait, we got to take our tanks and our smart > bombs and we got to kick some Iraqi butt. Sure, Apache pilots got to > kick some US Infantry butts, but they did some ***kicking. We shot > some rounds, freed Kuwait and got to put a patch on our right shoulders > to show we've been in contact. We had massive parades and felt like > heros when we returned. We were happy. > When we went to Somolia, we got to deliver pizzas. That's no fun. > We also lost some good men all because the liberal idiots wouldn't let us > run our own war. If they'd let the military run it, it would have been > over in two weeks and everyone would have been happy. But no, we went in > with hand***on and some didn't come back. We came back looking like > fools. We don't like that. > We went to Bosnia because our Commander in Chief liked to walk the > Halls of Power with his pants around his knees. He had fun and we had to > pay. We didn't lose anyone during the conflict, but we made a mess of > things because once again, we weren't able to do it like we'd like. Now, > the people went there to help take back their homeland won't go back > because the bombed the ***out of their homes. > Then here you come thinking you can fix it by sending us over > there. It doesn't work like that. We need a purpose and a mission > statement that says that once we complete X, Y and Z, the conflict is > over and we can go home. This liberal mission statement that goes > something like, "you can go home once they like each other" just doesn't > work. I raised my right hand and affirmed that I'd defend my country > against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I didn't agree to leave my > family and die in the place of someone in some country I've never head > of. Why should I have to die instead of them? Are they going to come > raise my son? No. Are you? Nope. Once it's over, you'll be too busy > stopping some farmer from planting corn because it disrupts the life of > the blue-footed tree moth to raise my son. If you or your neighbor were > in harm's way, I'd be the first one their to defend you. > If you really want to get the US involved, hire a *** and a > photographer and send them to the White House. > -- > When I die, I hope they bury me at Wal-Mart so my wife will visit me > everyday.

Screw East Timor!!!!! I could care less. I'm sick of seeing our troops (US) sent over to these God Damned back ass countries just to get pissed on in the end!!! By the way, this isn't the place for this crap!!! Bob B. American And Proud Of It!!!!!!

Thanks Bob! Too bad our President thinks we need to control every other country while we let ours go down the drain. -- Scott Pittman American Soldier in the 82d Airborne Division

You're a bit narrow-minded, but you're right with the 'this isn't the place for this crap!!!' thing. Andre