POLL: Favourite GPL Car and Track!

My favorite track has to be Monza, it is fast and furious, and the parabola is of tantamount importance in a good lap time. My favorite car is the Lotus/Ford 49 (Ricardo Nunnini's setups). I truly love the course at Mosport also, it comes in a close 2nd for me. Andrew BTW I stole the legal notice below from another poster on this board (THANKS!!!) Hope your are not upset that I nabbed it. *****LEGAL NOTICE TO ALL BULK E-MAILERS***** NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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> Just to satisfy my own curiousity. I started off with the Ferrari 312 > but I decided to diversify and try the other cars, esp. the Eagle T1G, > the BRM P115 and the Brabham BT24. I did not mess too much with the > fantasy cars or the Lotus 49. In any case I really disliked the BT24; > the low-revving, high-torque motor and twitchy handling is not my > style. Throttle control is paramount and it's just not me. > The BRM is a load of fun actually. It doesn't demand too much accuracy > or driving skill for that matter. The engine is also very benign except > near the red. It fun but it's not fast. Great for that last night blast > before bedtime. And the H16 sounds cute. > The T1G is a sweet car like the 312. No terrible vices unlike the other > cars. Fast enough. I await Alison Hine's setup for the T1G. > Well I went back to the 312 and this is the car for me. Alison's setup > is great. It makes the 312 supremely driveable. After messing with the > others, it's great to settle down to clearly superior car. Is the Lotus > 49 better? Probably but overall the 312 is a complete package and it's > less tiring to drive. > Favourite track? Probably Rouen. A little over 2 minutes of country > road. The trees, some of those really diabolical corners. And that > hairpin. This is the best. > T.

The Ferrari is my favorite car but the Lotus is my weapon of choice. IMO, the Ferrari is the best "race car" in GPL. Driving the Ferrari is like slow dancing with a beautiful lady. Driving the Lotus is like trying to ride a 2000lb bull who just had his "jewels" electrocuted:) Hmm, guess I never was one for dancing... Zandy is my favorite with Mosport a very close second. Scottie

Im going to probably surprise alot of people with my pick of track but im going to say Mexico. Being able to weave through the esses on the ragged edge is totally exilerating to me. Plus racing here becomes a battle of who has the balls to drive into Hairpin deeper to make the pass. Plus the back straight into Peralta onto the front straight really give you an oppurtunity for setting up and making passes. A close second would have to be Spa and third i would probably say Watkins Glen. I probably wont surprise much with my car choice which is <drumroll please> the Eagle-Weslake T1G. I love the way its long wheelbase lets you drift the car through corners and maintain speed. Second would be the BRM (cause its just plain fun) and Third would be the Ferrari. Chris

Pleased to see someone else that's found Senor Nunnini's setups. I was saved from self injury/tossing out GPL until I found these . Unlike most novice/poor drivers (novice I'm not, poor(as in bad) I certainly am) I find the Lotus easiest to drive fast. I can't see why people rave about alison's setups - waaay too much understeer for me. Anyhow - fave car Lotus, fave track Spa - give it a try, flat out everywhere, only brake 3 times in 3 and a half minutes Cheers.. Phillip...

Count me as a freak, too -- I really like Mexico. A VERY challenging -- and rewarding -- track. Tons of fun. I find Watkins Glen to be a bit more enjoyable overall, but I'd say they're tied for favorite in my book. Thanks to Alison Hine, my favorite car is . . . the Ferrari (with her setups, of course!). Great fun all around. - JB >Im going to probably surprise alot of people with my pick of track but im going >to say Mexico. Being able to weave through the esses on the ragged edge is >totally exilerating to me. Plus racing here becomes a battle of who has the >balls to drive into Hairpin deeper to make the pass. Plus the back straight >into Peralta onto the front straight really give you an oppurtunity for setting >up and making passes. A close second would have to be Spa and third i would >probably say Watkins Glen. >I probably wont surprise much with my car choice which is <drumroll please> the >Eagle-Weslake T1G. I love the way its long wheelbase lets you drift the car >through corners and maintain speed. Second would be the BRM (cause its just >plain fun) and Third would be the Ferrari. >Chris

My favorite track is Silverstone......I use the Ferarri with Allison Hine's setups (with modified gearing). Spa and Monza are great for all out speed. And, call me a coward, in the 5 months since I've had the game I have YET to race the 'Ring.

Wow, you must try it! At least for a Sunday drive ;-D Just pump up the ride heights to 4" or more and you'll be fine. Most the corners are slow so stay in 2nd or 3rd. Jason. > And, call me a coward, in the 5 months since I've had > the game I have YET to race the 'Ring. -------- Jason Monds "My other car is a Ferrari" http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

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>> My favorite track has to be Monza, it is fast and furious, and the >parabola >> is of tantamount importance in a good lap time. My favorite car is the >> Lotus/Ford 49 (Ricardo Nunnini's setups). I truly love the course at >> Mosport also, it comes in a close 2nd for me. >> Andrew >Pleased to see someone else that's found Senor Nunnini's setups. I was saved >from self injury/tossing out GPL until I found these . Unlike most >novice/poor drivers (novice I'm not, poor(as in bad) I certainly am) I find >the Lotus easiest to drive fast. I can't see why people rave about alison's >setups - waaay too much understeer for me. >Anyhow - fave car Lotus, fave track Spa - give it a try, flat out >everywhere, only brake 3 times in 3 and a half minutes > Cheers.. > Phillip...

What was your best time with Nunnini's setup? I could only get to 1:31.xx in a race, with a draft... __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>My favorite track is Silverstone......I use the Ferarri with Allison >Hine's setups (with modified gearing). Spa and Monza are great for >all out speed. And, call me a coward, in the 5 months since I've had >the game I have YET to race the 'Ring. That's ok. I've never RACED it either, and I think I've only done 5-7 laps total. I've had the game since last October... Funny thing is, I WANTED the game for the Ring...<g> Eldred __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> That's ok. I've never RACED it either, and I think I've only > done 5-7 laps total. I've had the game since last October... > Funny thing is, I WANTED the game for the Ring...<g> I'm just the opposite, I run the Ring all the time, full length GP races at that. For me it is the only track I can run a GP race at without a sense of repetition setting in. At the end of the race I'm completely drained yet euphoric at the same time. I also have fond memories of the first time I ever played the original release of GPL - tearing down the straight at the Ring after 10 minutes of restrained exploration in the Ferrari with a huge grin on my face. Seconds later crashing wildly at the bend in a failed attempt to take it flat out (still haven't managed that feat). Gazing in awe at the replay as my car caught air, landed crossed up, and spun into the hedges provoking a terrible crash complete with sparks and fire. The Ring really shows off the great GPL driving model in all of it's glory. The only other place that comes close is Monaco. Unfortunately I usually wreck trying to pass an uncooperative backmarker there (where are the blue falgs for the AI drivers?) so I can't really say I like it, respect it is more like it. For online races I like Brands Hatch, so many great online moments there, what fun we had when that one came out! Hopefully the GPLEA will give it a new coat of paint fairly soon. Picking a car is somewhat harder. I almost always drive the Lotus in a competitive situation but when it comes time to have fun each car has something that the others don't that draws you to it. Overall, I would say the Ferrari though. It was the car that made it 'easy' to learn what driving in GPL was all about. Once I mastered it, mastering the others wasn't nearly as difficult. Favorite track, favorite car, GPL still remains my favorite game. After a full year passing I find that incredible. - George

Car: Ferrari Track: Nrnburgring (personal best in the red car is a 8:27) /Bj.O.rn, SDK #1225

>The only other place that comes close is Monaco. Unfortunately >I usually wreck trying to pass an uncooperative backmarker >there (where are the blue falgs for the AI drivers?) so I can't >really say I like it, respect it is more like it. Hmm. Where the HELL do you pass at Monaco? I can't even get out of 3rd gear for most of the lap...<g> __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> >The only other place that comes close is Monaco. Unfortunately > >I usually wreck trying to pass an uncooperative backmarker > >there (where are the blue falgs for the AI drivers?) so I can't > >really say I like it, respect it is more like it. > Hmm. Where the HELL do you pass at Monaco? I can't even get out of 3rd gear > for most of the lap...<g>

Easy - if it's an AI car, just ram them gently as they go through the bus-stop hairpin - that puts them into the hay bales and gives you a clear run. If it's a human driver, just wait till they crash out - and stay well back as they go through the chicane!

>> Hmm. Where the HELL do you pass at Monaco? I can't even get out of >> 3rd >>gear for most of the lap...<g> >Easy - if it's an AI car, just ram them gently as they go through the >bus-stop hairpin - that puts them into the hay bales and gives you a >clear run. Ah yes, the British Touring Car technique. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

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>>> Hmm. Where the HELL do you pass at Monaco? I can't even get out of >>> 3rd >>gear for most of the lap...<g> >>Easy - if it's an AI car, just ram them gently as they go through the >>bus-stop hairpin - that puts them into the hay bales and gives you a >>clear run. >Ah yes, the British Touring Car technique. >-- >Don Scurlock >Vancouver,B.C.

LOL! Beautiful job Don...LOL On another note, I'm really starting to love Rouen....:) Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

So am i now that i can make it an entire lap under 2:10 with out spinning the car. BTW- That method of passing cars is kinda how i pass in the TPTCC Cars :) Chris

> >On another note, I'm really starting to love >Rouen....:) > So am i now that i can make it an entire lap under 2:10 with out spinning the > car. Great track - I still remember a great online race I had there with several of us swapping the lead (due to all of us spinning out at some point). In fact I was in the lead on the last lap without even knowing it before I pushed too hard (unnecessarily) and blew it! So I know how Hakinnen feels (well almost!). I'm still trying to break the magic 2 minutes though - my best is 2:00.10 - so near and yet so far! PS: My favourite track is still Zandvoort!

I just started up with Rouen to get a break from the Ring and it is a great track. I'm dipping into the 2:05s and feel like I'm up against a bit of a wall. Got any hints ? -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

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> >> Hmm. Where the HELL do you pass at Monaco? I can't even get out of > >> 3rd >>gear for most of the lap...<g> > >Easy - if it's an AI car, just ram them gently as they go through the > >bus-stop hairpin - that puts them into the hay bales and gives you a > >clear run. > Ah yes, the British Touring Car technique. > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C.

Hey the yanks started it with "rubbing is racing" -- Mark London UK Yamaha TRX850

Thanks Niel. Just checked it out. These are some of the most detailed track guides I've ever seen, great site. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

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> >On another note, I'm really starting to love Rouen....:) > >Dan Belcher > >Team Racing Unlimited > I just started up with Rouen to get a break from the Ring > and it is a great track. I'm dipping into the 2:05s and feel > like I'm up against a bit of a wall. Got any hints ?

Just keep practising - it worked for me! ;-) I did a 2:00.14 in a race against the AI and I made quite a few mistakes, so I'm sure it's possible for me to go faster with my existing setup (I'm using the default GPL 1.1 setup for the Lotus). Did you check out the track guides at http://lightsoutracing.simplenet.com/trackguides/index.html - I'm still way off the guide times they give at most of the tracks, so I still have much to learn!

Don't know if it'll work for you, but here's what got me under two minutes. Slower into the corners, faster out. Initially I was pushing as hard as I could all the way around. I was entering turns on the edge of traction, which meant I was way past the apex before I could hook it back on. It was like pulling teeth to slow down more than usual before entering turns, but once I started doing it, I could get back on the gas a lot sooner and carry all that extra speed down the ensuing straight stretch. This helped even when the straight was a short one. Like I said, it was hard to enter turns slower than usual, but it paid off. Hope this helps. Zog

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> >On another note, I'm really starting to love Rouen....:) > >Dan Belcher > >Team Racing Unlimited > I just started up with Rouen to get a break from the Ring > and it is a great track. I'm dipping into the 2:05s and feel > like I'm up against a bit of a wall. Got any hints ? > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C.

There is no question, that would help, and I keep trying. It's just that I have trouble getting my inner kamikazi to cooperate. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

this depends on the car you are driving! I use the same technique with the brabham, but not with the ferrari for example! according to the racing books I read, you should always start with using a late apex and develop your line from there, because you are less likely to get into trouble and you will find your line faster and it is much easier to use the whole track this way. btw: I just purchased "going faster - the skip barber racing school" and I found it VERY helpful! Lio

Good point, I drive the Ferrari pretty much exclusively. Zog

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> > Don't know if it'll work for you, but here's what got me under two > > minutes. Slower into the corners, faster out. Initially I was pushing > > as hard as I could all the way around. I was entering turns on the edge > > of traction, which meant I was way past the apex before I could hook it > > back on. > this depends on the car you are driving! I use the same technique with > the brabham, but not with the ferrari for example! according to the > racing books I read, you should always start with using a late apex and > develop your line from there, because you are less likely to get into > trouble and you will find your line faster and it is much easier to use > the whole track this way. > btw: I just purchased "going faster - the skip barber racing school" and > I found it VERY helpful! > Lio