Hey all (Way OT)

I know this is the wrong forum, but then again what better group to ask. We want to get my 9 year old a new game system this year. We actually bought the X box bundle for $219 last week. I was just out at the mall and see the same thing, so I was told for 179, none actually on the shelf, but we can take back what we bought. I made sure of that before we paid for it. So here is my question. Between the PS2 and X box, playability, quality of gaming, online ability, which one is better? I have never played either except today at the store I played the xbox demo. not too bad I suppose.... Both play dvd's and cd's, both offer surround sound I believe. My thoughts are that the Xbox is microsoft and I understand computers pretty well so "should" be able to cope with issues that come up. Looking around on the internet I did find some "how to's" for fixing PS2's. Now I figured that is a mark against PS2 since I have not seen anything like that for Xbox and assume there are more problems with PS2. Thoughts? Recomendations? Thanks for any help... Sean

"McWhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I know this is the wrong forum, but then again what better group to ask.We > want to get my 9 year old a new game system this year. We actually bought > the X box bundle for $219 last week. I was just out at the mall and seethe > same thing, so I was told for 179, none actually on the shelf, but we can > take back what we bought. I made sure of that before we paid for it. > So here is my question. Between the PS2 and X box, playability, qualityof > gaming, online ability, which one is better? I have never played either > except today at the store I played the xbox demo. not too bad Isuppose.... > Both play dvd's and cd's, both offer surround sound I believe. Mythoughts > are that the Xbox is microsoft and I understand computers pretty well so > "should" be able to cope with issues that come up. Looking around on the > internet I did find some "how to's" for fixing PS2's. Now I figured thatis > a mark against PS2 since I have not seen anything like that for Xbox and > assume there are more problems with PS2. > > Thoughts? Recomendations? In terms of the actual hardware, the xbox is better. As far as amount of games available, the PS2 by far. Which do you prefer, quantity or quality? ;) KK

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:53:55 +1030, "Kasper Kowalski" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In terms of the actual hardware, the xbox is better. > >As far as amount of games available, the PS2 by far. Which do you prefer, >quantity or quality? ;) > >KK >

Yea, it depends on what you are looking for. Forget playing the PS1 game library on a PS2 if you want nice graphics. Every PS1 game I ever saw had ugly graphics. PS2 games are much better graphically and there is a good library of gmaes. Xbox is superior hardware with better graphics but there are few games in it's library that would interest me except for some of it's sports titles. Xbox needs a better game library so if it was me I would probably go with PS2. Even PS2 doesn't interest me much though as the PC is superior in every way. We did have a PS2 for a short while though. For kids consoles are great though.

Just got my kids a PS2 and they love it. Huge library of games compared to xbox. I would say go with the PS2 also. "McWhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I know this is the wrong forum, but then again what better group to ask.We > want to get my 9 year old a new game system this year. We actually bought > the X box bundle for $219 last week. I was just out at the mall and seethe > same thing, so I was told for 179, none actually on the shelf, but we can > take back what we bought. I made sure of that before we paid for it. > So here is my question. Between the PS2 and X box, playability, qualityof > gaming, online ability, which one is better? I have never played either > except today at the store I played the xbox demo. not too bad Isuppose.... > Both play dvd's and cd's, both offer surround sound I believe. Mythoughts > are that the Xbox is microsoft and I understand computers pretty well so > "should" be able to cope with issues that come up. Looking around on the > internet I did find some "how to's" for fixing PS2's. Now I figured thatis

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> a mark against PS2 since I have not seen anything like that for Xbox and > assume there are more problems with PS2. > > Thoughts? Recomendations? > > Thanks for any help... > > > Sean > >

The Xbox is generally aimed at the more mature, discerning gamer. No way in hell I'd buy a PS2 for myself but for kids it might be the better option due to more games being available.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:18:26 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The Xbox is generally aimed at the more mature, discerning gamer. No way in >hell I'd buy a PS2 for myself but for kids it might be the better option due >to more games being available. > The Xbox games don't look any more *mature* to me than the PS2 games. Maybe you are thinking of the Nintendo Gamecube which is marketed to a younger crowd. Most of the games I see for Xbox are arcade in nature.

"Cobblers!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:18:26 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >The Xbox is generally aimed at the more mature, discerning gamer. No wayin > >hell I'd buy a PS2 for myself but for kids it might be the better optiondue > >to more games being available. > > > > The Xbox games don't look any more *mature* to me than the PS2 games. > Maybe you are thinking of the Nintendo Gamecube which is marketed to a > younger crowd. Most of the games I see for Xbox are arcade in nature. I haven't played anything on any console that could be described as a *sim*... they're all arcadey. KK

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:05:40 GMT, "Kasper Kowalski" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I haven't played anything on any console that could be described as a >*sim*... they're all arcadey. > >KK > You can get EA's F1 and Nascar sims so I guess those would be classified as sims, but I can't say for sure as I've never played them on a console and they may be dumbed down. Most people play with just gamepads on consoles so they probably need dumbing down a bit.

> You can get EA's F1 and Nascar sims so I guess those would be > classified as sims, but I can't say for sure as I've never played them > on a console and they may be dumbed down. Most people play with just > gamepads on consoles so they probably need dumbing down a bit. EA F1 & Nascar sims aren't the same as the PC versions - the console versions aren't really sims at all.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:10:32 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >EA F1 & Nascar sims aren't the same as the PC versions - the console >versions aren't really sims at all. > OK, I don't own any console system so wouldn't know.

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> > You can get EA's F1 and Nascar sims so I guess those would be > > classified as sims, but I can't say for sure as I've never played them > > on a console and they may be dumbed down. Most people play with just > > gamepads on consoles so they probably need dumbing down a bit. > > EA F1 & Nascar sims aren't the same as the PC versions - the console > versions aren't really sims at all.

IMHO Atari's NASCAR: Dirt to Daytona is the most realistic SIM that's been released on any console to date. This sim was only realeased on the PS2 and Gamecube. The game is built on the NASCAR Heat engine that was originally released on the PS2/XBox; was significantly tweaked/improved for NASCAR: DtoD. The dirt track and MODs circuits in the game are excellent. The only down note for the game is that the graphics don't stand up to the other better console titles; about the quality of the better late 90's PC Sims. Some other things to consider. IMHO the PS2's controllers analog axis perform better than the XBox's controllers; even the Gamecubes axis seems to handle better. The PS2 also has a much better support for 3rd party wheels; most importantly Logitech which is about as good as it gets for consoles. The XBox has more polygon-pushing hardware, thus the graphics are usually better in the XBox exclusives. With few exceptions multi-platform racing games are ported from the PS2, thus there's not much difference in graphics between platforms. I've played quite a number of console racing titles 1 -on- 1 with friends and family. To name a few GT3(PS2), NASCAR Thunder 2003(PS2), PGR(XBox), Rally Champ(XBox), Colin MaRae Really 3(XBox), Burnout 2(GC). I've yet to find any console game that matches the depth and realism of NASCAR: DtoD. I haven't played PGR2 yet, so I can't comment.