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I've been practising on a couple of tracks Monza 1.29.83 Eagle Nurb 8.59.21 Brabham Spa 3.26.00 Eagle Are these times good enough to have a go at racing online and if so where do I go to get hooked up? Any advice appreciated GPL Fanatic

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> I've been practising on a couple of tracks > Monza 1.29.83 Eagle > Nurb 8.59.21 Brabham > Spa 3.26.00 Eagle > Are these times good enough to have a go at racing online and if so where do > I go to get hooked up? > Any advice appreciated

You make it sound like you just practiced a bit and got such times. You would do very well online with such times. I've practiced monza since january with a wheel, and I have never passed the 1.30 mark with the Eagle. Kind of frustrating :) What you have to ask yourself is not if you are fast enough, but if you are concistent and race clean. It doesn't help much to be fast, if you spin every other lap. Online GPL has been a bit frustrating lately for me because I don't have the time to practise as much as many of the regulars. The result is that I always finish last of those who stay connected. The newbies is raced with great success in january have now become pros, and there aren't any newbies anymore. Maybe there should be hosted more races with a best time limit. I have seen someone who demands faster than 1.30 times at Monza, but what about a race for people who cant get better than 1.30 :) Oh, the place to race GPL online is www.vroc.net. Good luck and have fun. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

Sure! Come on in... gpl.gamestats.com/vroc See you there! __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I would say the main requirement for online racing is being a good sport. Don't try crazy overtaking moves that take people out, and move over when being lapped. You will make mistakes, but say sorry and move on. Your times are reasonable and if you can do those times consistently lap after lap you will win some races. For example, the faster guys run in the 1:28's at Monza in the Eagle, and in the 1:27's with Lotus. But there aren't too many around running those times. Keith.

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>I've been practising on a couple of tracks >Monza 1.29.83 Eagle >Nurb 8.59.21 Brabham >Spa 3.26.00 Eagle >Are these times good enough to have a go at racing online and if so where do >I go to get hooked up? >Any advice appreciated >GPL Fanatic

In my opinion, you should go racing, man! I'm not the fastest driver, but I've participated in some on-line races at Watkins Glen with Lotus drivers who were posting qual times in the 1:05 range, while I was up in the 1:09 range in my lowly Ferrari. Starting from the rear, I slowly picked of the Loti as the spun into the weeds lap after lap, trying to use their hotlapping qualifying style when they should have been racing. I started 8th in this particular race, and finished 2nd -- I never got in anybody's way, never had any contact with any other cars, I never caused any accidents (though I avoided many that happened in front of me), and I never had any runoffs myself. I came up on many accidents and had to take action to avoid them, and I had to avoid several drivers coming back onto the track after a runoff (usually Lotus drivers, it seemed). The would often pass me, of course, only to watch me tool by while they sat in the grass, counting the weeds a few laps later. My fastest lap time in this particular race was in the 1:08 - 1:09 range, proving that sure and steady CAN win races. Allison Hine touts this in some of her Ferrari and Coventry tips, and it's true. There are a LOT of hotlappers out there who are faster than me, but they aren't all necessarily more consistent than I am. Please note that I am pretty much a hack driver, BTW -- I make NO claims to greatness! <G> -- JB

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>I've been practising on a couple of tracks >Monza 1.29.83 Eagle >Nurb 8.59.21 Brabham >Spa 3.26.00 Eagle >Are these times good enough to have a go at racing online and if so where

do >I go to get hooked up? >Any advice appreciated >GPL Fanatic

: Online GPL has been a bit frustrating lately for me because I don't have the : time to practise as much as many of the regulars. The result is that I always : finish last of those who stay connected. The newbies is raced with great : success in january have now become pros, and there aren't any newbies anymore. Certainly not true - or at least not true that you can't race people of somewhat "limited" GPL ability. I had a SUPERB race at Spa the other day where for the first three laps all of the first four were right with each other (and with me in the middle) and I lap Spa in the 3:30 sort of time. [Excellent race until I lost it through Masta on the 4th lap and because I had to back off, tangled with the guy in 4th.] : Maybe there should be hosted more races with a best time limit. I have seen : someone who demands faster than 1.30 times at Monza, but what about a : race for people who cant get better than 1.30 :) Heh - I'd go for this one. I've never gone faster than 1:30 in my Ferrari. [And I've driven the Ferrari so much that driving a 1:29:50 in the Lotus feels like cheating :-)]. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York. www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html

Lets put it this way....i cant get below 1:30 at Monza in an Eagle (only car i drive other than the BRM). I would race online in a second if i could get a decent connection. Right now i have AOL which is well...poor at best with online racing. However i have raced my buddies head to head (Direct Connect and via Modem) and i had a blast. We all got GPL about the same time and are at about the same level of expertise (as in i usually win and im not very good). But online racing is a blast. If u can get 36fps solid then your more than a welcome competitor. Chris

I second that > Maybe there should be hosted more races with a best time limit. I have seen > someone who demands faster than 1.30 times at Monza, but what about a race for > people who cant get better than 1.30 :) > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

With GPL 1.1 I get 25 fps off line and 36-37 fps on line. Both times are with the same graphics and sound settings. It was the other way around with GPL 1.0. Your computer may be different though. BTW: AMD K6-2/350, 160 meg ram, Voodoo2.

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> Thanx for all the encouragement folks. > I'll be online racing before the week is out....sounds like a heap of fun. > Just for the record, in an offline race with 20 cars I'm getting a rock > solid 36fps > Using AMD K6 2 450 CPU with 128mb and Voodoo 2 card. > Should I expect much of a drop in frame rate online? > > Lets put it this way....i cant get below 1:30 at Monza in an Eagle (only > car i > > drive other than the BRM). I would race online in a second if i could get > a > > decent connection. Right now i have AOL which is well...poor at best with > > online racing. However i have raced my buddies head to head (Direct > Connect > > and via Modem) and i had a blast. We all got GPL about the same time and > are > > at about the same level of expertise (as in i usually win and im not very > > good). But online racing is a blast. If u can get 36fps solid then your > more > > than a welcome competitor. > > Chris

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You must not have raced with ME yet... I've NEVER done a 1:30... Eldred __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto GPL.GAMESTATS.COM/VROC If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Excellent. At Monza (excepting the start lap) I usually run a 21 lap race with the slowest laps around 1.30.8 and slowly getting quicker as the fuel load reduces. At Spa my times are not yet a consistent as I would like, they can vary by up to 5 seconds and I still manage to overcook it in the first corner a little. When I can get my times within 5 secs at Nurb, I'll let you all know, till then I'll keep quiet.

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> > I've been practising on a couple of tracks > > Monza 1.29.83 Eagle > > Nurb 8.59.21 Brabham > > Spa 3.26.00 Eagle > > Are these times good enough to have a go at racing online and if so

where do > > I go to get hooked up? > > Any advice appreciated > You make it sound like you just practiced a bit and got such times. You would > do very well online with such times. I've practiced monza since january with > a wheel, and I have never passed the 1.30 mark with the Eagle. Kind of > frustrating :) > What you have to ask yourself is not if you are fast enough, but if you are > concistent and race clean. It doesn't help much to be fast, if you spin every > other lap. > Online GPL has been a bit frustrating lately for me because I don't have the > time to practise as much as many of the regulars. The result is that I always > finish last of those who stay connected. The newbies is raced with great > success in january have now become pros, and there aren't any newbies anymore. > Maybe there should be hosted more races with a best time limit. I have seen > someone who demands faster than 1.30 times at Monza, but what about a race for

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> people who cant get better than 1.30 :) > Oh, the place to race GPL online is www.vroc.net. Good luck and have fun. > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

Thanx for all the encouragement folks. I'll be online racing before the week is out....sounds like a heap of fun. Just for the record, in an offline race with 20 cars I'm getting a rock solid 36fps Using AMD K6 2 450 CPU with 128mb and Voodoo 2 card. Should I expect much of a drop in frame rate online?

Richard, That was a great race, until lap 4 all cars were within sight of each other. (I was the car just in front of you.) The fourth place car won it as he was the only one that didn't lose it. I lost it in Stavelot right after you crashed in Masta. The first place car lost it in Blanchimont on the last lap allowing the fourth place car to take the win.

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> : Online GPL has been a bit frustrating lately for me because I don't have the > : time to practise as much as many of the regulars. The result is that I always > : finish last of those who stay connected. The newbies is raced with great > : success in january have now become pros, and there aren't any newbies anymore. > Certainly not true - or at least not true that you can't race people > of somewhat "limited" GPL ability. I had a SUPERB race at Spa the other > day where for the first three laps all of the first four were right with > each other (and with me in the middle) and I lap Spa in the 3:30 sort of > time. [Excellent race until I lost it through Masta on the 4th lap and > because I had to back off, tangled with the guy in 4th.]

Trouble is that you will always get the idiots who will join anyway regardless. We who race in F2 and F3 regularly used to have to endure al lot of people turning up in F1 cars and refusing to leave. Of course this issue has been resolved with new versions, but setting a time limit is a different proposition altogether. Mark > : Online GPL has been a bit frustrating lately for me because I don't have the > : time to practise as much as many of the regulars. The result is that I always > : finish last of those who stay connected. The newbies is raced with great > : success in january have now become pros, and there aren't any newbies anymore.

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> Certainly not true - or at least not true that you can't race people > of somewhat "limited" GPL ability. I had a SUPERB race at Spa the other > day where for the first three laps all of the first four were right with > each other (and with me in the middle) and I lap Spa in the 3:30 sort of > time. [Excellent race until I lost it through Masta on the 4th lap and > because I had to back off, tangled with the guy in 4th.] > : Maybe there should be hosted more races with a best time limit. I have

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> : someone who demands faster than 1.30 times at Monza, but what about a > : race for people who cant get better than 1.30 :) > Heh - I'd go for this one. I've never gone faster than 1:30 in my > Ferrari. [And I've driven the Ferrari so much that driving a 1:29:50 in > the Lotus feels like cheating :-)]. > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York. > www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html

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>I've been practising on a couple of tracks >Monza 1.29.83 Eagle >Nurb 8.59.21 Brabham >Spa 3.26.00 Eagle >Are these times good enough to have a go at racing online and if so where

do >I go to get hooked up? >Any advice appreciated >GPL Fanatic They're more than good enough. But consistency is more important. As for where to get hooked up. Go to the VROC site and read everything. You should be up and running within a hour max. Joel Willstien

Yeah, even I inadvertantly pull a quick one from time to time. ;-) Jan. ----- <snip>