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All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new posts. If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably migrate over here. -- db

There goes the neiborhood :( <g> > All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new posts. > If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably > migrate over here. > -- > db -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

it's not like we pay rent!!!!!!!!!! > There goes the neiborhood :( <g> >> All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new posts.

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>> If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably >> migrate over here. >> -- >> db >-- >========================================= >Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? >========================================= >Racing online with the help of...... >Race Communications Association >http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html >Holodyne Engineering >Mystic Music >(have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Well, no, but there is a certain standard one has come to expect of RAS devotees. Of course we do have to skip the occasional post about Need for Spud (the critically acclaimed new sim about the Irish Potato Famine ... not too difficult for the masses to master), but that's a small price to pay for the GPL community we have. Perhaps we can convert them ... with patience ... and kindness ... and free soup. Joe

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> it's not like we pay rent!!!!!!!!!! > > There goes the neiborhood :( <g> > >> All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new > posts. > >> If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably > >> migrate over here. > >> -- > >> db > >-- > >========================================= > >Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? > >========================================= > >Racing online with the help of...... > >Race Communications Association > >http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html > >Holodyne Engineering > >Mystic Music > >(have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

So? just more shit to ignore. Jan. ---- > All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new posts. > If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably > migrate over here. > -- > db

Are you for real? What constitutes a regular R.A.S.'er??? I won't even begin to go into what this says about your sense of what medium you just used to post that message, or the false sense of ownership you have about this newsgroup. Maybe your browsing of the TEN newsgroup left a bad taste in your mouth? In any case, I assure you that there are 9 decent sim'ers for every single sim'er that conducts himself in a way that would be otherwise impossible, lest he get unwanted "physical therapy", without the secure and safe, anonymity of the internet. So when you say **> If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably migrate over here**, let me remind you that segregation of the masses usually ends in war....and that is not what newsgroups are about. And before I go, let me apologize to all who agree with me that the above is probably over the top. I almost decided to just skip this post and not respond but I was immediately pissed off by what I read and those are my feelings whether good or bad. I just hate to see a majority inappropriately judged by the actions of a minority. Rhawn Black Virtual Velocity Racing Sponsored by ECCI... http://www.ecci.net/ Makers of the CDS4000 Driving System. "You don't just drive with it, IT DRIVES YOU!!!" > All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new posts. > If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably > migrate over here. > -- > db

Yeah, like I've been ingnoring all the open wheel posts here. A little change is always good, personally I'd love to see more stock car posts in here - it would give this newsgroup more diversity that it desperately needs imho. After all, it is rec.autos.simulators , not rec.autos.openwheel.simulators right? -- Don Burnette Dburn on Ten http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > So? just more shit to ignore. > Jan. > ----

Don't let them know that!!!!!!!! Now we can't take the $13 dollars a month they'll be saving! Now I have to wait a few more years before I have a Ferrari in my garage. )-; ;-) ________________________________________________ Jon Van Ginneken "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules, and ***ic pleasure in witnessing ***: in other words it is war minus the shooting." --George Orwell

Bullshit!! What is wrong with a little war or two?? Some of us are also flight simmers and without a new war every few years we would have less new flight sims. How would you like it if they had no F1 or NASCAR races for the last 40 years. How about no NASCAR 2&3, GP1&2, or GPL. Worst yet, what if auto racing had been banned after WWII, we should would have some crappy racing sims to talk about. :-) Paul > probably migrate over here**, let me remind you that segregation of > the masses usually ends in war....and that is not what newsgroups are > about.

As a R.A.S. irregular I have no problem with the TEN people coming here to post their comments. That is what public newsgroups are all about afterall. If they help to shift the topic away from so much GPL blather, then I think that would be a good thing. Not simply because I'm not a fan of that game, but this is a general discussion group, and GPL has been taking alot of space recently. And as we know, being a stupid American I am unable to deal with the right AND left hand turns, and all of that space that the track takes up. (Just trying to flame myself to save time.) The Mocker

When N3 comes out, I'd assume that NASCAR posts will dominate just like GPL does now. Then when the next Open wheel sim comes out from Papyrus, it will dominate, the when the next NASCAR sim comes out, it will dominate, ect.. ect.. ect.. It did this way back before NASCAR-1, back and forth. It all depends on the newest and best Sim of the time. wait a second, let me rephrase that... it all depends on the newest sim of the time. After all, we know that GPL is the better Sim ;-) Mike

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> Yeah, like I've been ingnoring all the open wheel posts here. > A little change is always good, personally I'd love to see more stock car > posts in here - it would give this newsgroup more diversity that it > desperately needs imho. After all, it is rec.autos.simulators , not > rec.autos.openwheel.simulators right? > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn on Ten > http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > > So? just more shit to ignore. > > Jan. > > ---- > > > All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new > > posts. > > > If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably > > > migrate over here. > > > -- > > > db

-- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Yes, but damnit, it should be rec.autos.openwheel.simulators. ;)

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> Yeah, like I've been ingnoring all the open wheel posts here. > A little change is always good, personally I'd love to see more stock car > posts in here - it would give this newsgroup more diversity that it > desperately needs imho. After all, it is rec.autos.simulators , not > rec.autos.openwheel.simulators right? > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn on Ten > http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > > So? just more shit to ignore. > > Jan. > > ---- > > > All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new > > posts. > > > If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably > > > migrate over here. > > > -- > > > db

Of course I think that people should be banned if they can't follow the unwritten "policy" [term used very lightly] of posting in straight TEXT and not HTML format. Not to mention, all silly adverti***ts like "You don't just drive with it, IT DRIVES YOU!!!" -- which is obviously nothing more than BS, I don't care how good you may or may not think the product is -- which we see enough of on TV, webpages, etc. Other than that, I generally concur with what Rhawn had to say. Are you for real? What constitutes a regular R.A.S.'er??? I won't even begin to go into what this says about your sense of what medium you just used to post that message, or the false sense of ownership you have about this newsgroup. Maybe your browsing of the TEN newsgroup left a bad taste in your mouth? In any case, I assure you that there are 9 decent sim'ers for every single sim'er that conducts himself in a way that would be otherwise impossible, lest he get unwanted "physical therapy", without the secure and safe, anonymity of the internet. So when you say **> If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably migrate over here**, let me remind you that segregation of the masses usually ends in war....and that is not what newsgroups are about. And before I go, let me apologize to all who agree with me that the above is probably over the top. I almost decided to just skip this post and not respond but I was immediately pissed off by what I read and those are my feelings whether good or bad. I just hate to see a majority inappropriately judged by the actions of a minority. Rhawn Black Virtual Velocity Racing Sponsored by ECCI... http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/extreme Makers of the CDS4000 Driving System. "You don't just drive with it, IT DRIVES YOU!!!" > All of you regular R.A.S.'ers had better prepare for an influx of new post s. > If the plug is pulled on the Ten newsgroup . . . they'll all probably > migrate over here. > -- > db

Truth be known, a good number of them probably already participate here, but there's not much to talk about because for the last year, the majority of attention has shifted to GPL. I imagine that with the release of N3, many of "the TEN people" will dump TEN and switch over to free racing. You won't be able to tell a "TEN person" from "r.a.s. regulars".

It's all GPL because everything else is junk compared to it. I don't think it's a question of road racing vs. oval racing, or else we would see people talking about TPTCC a lot also...it's just the quality of the physics engine blows everything else away. People talking about NR99 and NR3 here makes about as much sense as people talking about their 486 66MHz computers when they can have high powered Pentium II and III's that are 6-10x as powerful............for the same cost. ________________________________________________ Jon Van Ginneken "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules, and ***ic pleasure in witnessing ***: in other words it is war minus the shooting." --George Orwell

Your right, John. In fact, most of from the TEN ng migrated from here and have lived through such historical R.A.S. events as Ymenard declaring himself the " Officially mentally retarded guy of the R.A.S., the Jeff Gordon challenge and the Nascar1 setup acquisition fiasco. We aren't strangers here. Best, Greg Avella Gavel HAL-plankton > Truth be known, a good number of them probably already participate here, > but there's not much to talk about because for the last year, the > majority of attention has shifted to GPL.

> Well-said, Rhawn -- with all the potentially-great sims that will be coming > to market in the near future, this newsgroup is soon going to be crowded > with PLENTY of non-open-wheel chatter. Hey John, what about that indy legends racing game from GT Interactive? Any news from that one yet?

This group was dominating by Nascar sim drivers prior to TEN coming along. I have still read this group from time to time for I play GPL a lot as well. However, starting arguments about who has better physics is just plain stupid. I hope you guys don't think that the Nascar people chose to have the older physics over the GPL engine? It was simply forced upon them by the creators. Give them a break for that. geez. By the way, the Nascar group is working on getting another server started for Nascar3 discussion. A test server is already up. However, if they do wind up coming here, they are simply just returning to the place they started out in the first place. -- Tracy Dean tdean Shift R Racing www.pcez.com/~tdean/nascar2/shiftr

Are you serious? People die! Marty

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> Bullshit!! What is wrong with a little war or two?? Some of us are > also flight simmers and without a new war every few years we would > have less new flight sims. How would you like it if they had no F1 or > NASCAR races for the last 40 years. How about no NASCAR 2&3, GP1&2, > or GPL. Worst yet, what if auto racing had been banned after WWII, > we should would have some crappy racing sims to talk about. :-) Paul >> probably migrate over here**, let me remind you that segregation of >> the masses usually ends in war....and that is not what newsgroups >> are about.