What is happend to GPal?

Anyone here any thing out of Jack, he used to post here all the time about the status of GPal. -- Jeff Murchison JR HTTP://members.tripod.com/grandprixlegends

aliens got'im. --DK Jeff Murchison JR wrote [snip]

Jeff It's my belief, and I think I speak for many, that GPaL is not coming. For whatever reason, hoax, lack of time, some sort of secret upper level government ***, whatever, it isn't coming. Jack got a lot of people amped up, and then pulled a houdini. I have said it before, there is nothing wrong with getting in over your head, or setting goals you couldn't obtain, but Jack should of at least had the decency to have said "Sorry all it's not coming, no explanations". I'm sure Jack is around using another name, maybe one day he'll come forward. Chris

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:44:32 -0400, "Jeff Murchison JR" >Anyone here any thing out of Jack, he used to post here all the time about >the status of GPal. Heard in another post that partial versions have reached non-Jack hands. Perhaps he could make the source code available and others can pick up. Would be a shame to throw all that work away. There are more programmers amongst us. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

It was all a big con.......he collected a massive list of sim player's e-mail addresses and then sold them to some marketing / games company for loads of money....he then went somewhere very nice for a holiday hence his lack of posts since........ ok, maybe he didn't but it's possible.......

First of all i have nothing but good things to say about jack. he is the only person i ever raced that hit me and sent an email appologizing. i spoke with him yesterday. he said he has a new job and has been very busy. He wants to finish gpal and will do so when he has time.

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>On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:44:32 -0400, "Jeff Murchison JR" >>Anyone here any thing out of Jack, he used to post here all the time about >>the status of GPal. >Heard in another post that partial versions have reached non-Jack >hands. Perhaps he could make the source code available and others can >pick up. Would be a shame to throw all that work away. There are more >programmers amongst us. >Ruud van Gaal >MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl >Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

having known Jack thru his online hosting, and his sense of fair play, it is my suspicion he (like the rest of us) awaits the patch/patch. THEN he can release his (most-likely) up-to -date GpAL...be patient. have faith...and her sister too :)

And i bet he is soooooo busy he can't post a message to this newsgroup explaining what's the current status on GPaL. Last time it was postponed was an installer bug that prevented him from releasing the thing ( repeat after me " installer bug" ???!!! ). Jack owes (sp?) us nothing! Don't forget that he didn't take our money and vanished ( or maybe he did as i have to pay for the internet and reading all this posts about GPaL and viewing that nice JPGs he hat at his site did add something to my bill ). But it would be nice if he showed up, cleared the things up so the people like the original poster would stop waiting for GPaL. But, don't start waiting for that either, as it's never going to happen! Borut > First of all i have nothing but good things to say about jack. he is the > only person i ever raced that hit me and sent an email appologizing. i spoke

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> with him yesterday. he said he has a new job and has been very busy. He > wants to finish gpal and will do so when he has time. > >On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:44:32 -0400, "Jeff Murchison JR" > >>Anyone here any thing out of Jack, he used to post here all the time

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> >>the status of GPal. > >Heard in another post that partial versions have reached non-Jack > >hands. Perhaps he could make the source code available and others can > >pick up. Would be a shame to throw all that work away. There are more > >programmers amongst us. > >Ruud van Gaal > >MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl > >Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

FINALLY some reassuring GPaL news. If only Jack would have made the little effort to tell us this directly, then all this speculating about the status of GPaL wouldn't even have happened... Great to hear that GPaL is not dead! Andre

>It was all a big con.......he collected a massive list of sim player's >e-mail addresses and then sold them to some marketing / games company for >loads of money....he then went somewhere very nice for a holiday hence his >lack of posts since........ Gee why didn't I think of that. Think I'll collect email addresses from this newsgroup and retire. ;-) Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

Pete, you could say the same to me, with my recent survey :) But it's not the case :) Anyway, not sure what was Jack motivation, who knows what's the answer ? I'm one of the fool who believe him (maybe it didn't intend to fool anyone) and posted NEWS on my wesbite. ohh well that's life Eric http://www.simracingmag.com

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> >It's my belief, and I think I speak for many, that GPaL is not coming. > It was all a big con.......he collected a massive list of sim player's > e-mail addresses and then sold them to some marketing / games company for > loads of money....he then went somewhere very nice for a holiday hence his > lack of posts since........ > ok, maybe he didn't but it's possible.......

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>>It was all a big con.......he collected a massive list of sim player's >>e-mail addresses and then sold them to some marketing / games company for >>loads of money....he then went somewhere very nice for a holiday hence his >>lack of posts since........ >Gee why didn't I think of that. Think I'll collect email addresses >from this newsgroup and retire. ;-)

hehe.. You would at least have to get an anonymous email address to avoid the 100MB mail-bombs.. <G> -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * http://www.cabal.net * http://www.sputum.com

>FINALLY some reassuring GPaL news. If only Jack would have made the >little effort to tell us this directly, then all this speculating >about the status of GPaL wouldn't even have happened... >Great to hear that GPaL is not dead! Hm, in all honesty, and without putting Jack down. I have experience with people saying that the only thing keeping the release from happening is an 'installer bug', and then it turns out there are a lot of problems. The longer Jack is busy with his job (and that's ok, just don't keep giving hope, although he's probably convincing himself too), the less the interest in finishing GPal becomes. It's the same thing really, as saying it's just 1 installer bug away. Making things look nicer than they actually are. I predict you, the project will never be released. Jack's moved on to other things. Ruud van Gaal MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

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>>It's my belief, and I think I speak for many, that GPaL is not coming. >It was all a big con.......he collected a massive list of sim player's >e-mail addresses and then sold them to some marketing / games company for >loads of money....he then went somewhere very nice for a holiday hence his >lack of posts since........ >ok, maybe he didn't but it's possible.......

Just what any marketing / game company would want... A list of e-mail address to a bunch of pissed off people :)

Who was the person who predicted back in March or April, that GPal would be out in September...? He still has the REST of the month...<g> Eldred __ Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto GPL.GAMESTATS.COM/VROC If all the world's a stage, where is the audience sitting? remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>>>It's my belief, and I think I speak for many, that GPaL is not coming. >>It was all a big con.......he collected a massive list of sim player's >>e-mail addresses and then sold them to some marketing / games company for >>loads of money....he then went somewhere very nice for a holiday hence his >>lack of posts since........ >>ok, maybe he didn't but it's possible....... >Just what any marketing / game company would want... >A list of e-mail address to a bunch of pissed off people :)

... whose other common characteristic is an interest in an arcane historic racing simulator. Yeah, this is a list I would want to buy if I was selling - hmmm, well, maybe a historic punching bag? ;) Here's my take at what happened: Jack thought GPaL was almost finished. Then he had to postpone development due to his new job. When he had a bit of time again, he discovered a few bigger bugs in his code and decided to fix them before reappearing here. Fixing the bugs took a lot longer than he expected (it always does). When Jack visited RAS again, he saw that a *** mob was waiting for him and decided not to surface again until he had his program ready for release - which, under these circumstances, may well be never. Hey, Jack, if you are reading this: despite all the accusations, there are still a lot of people who would love to see GPaL released. Heck, I would even be grateful. :) Now call me a gullible fool. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

This may very well be true. But I find it very strange that Jack found the time to post before,and now can't find 2 min to let us know what is going on. Joel Willstien

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>FINALLY some reassuring GPaL news. If only Jack would have made the >little effort to tell us this directly, then all this speculating >about the status of GPaL wouldn't even have happened... >Great to hear that GPaL is not dead! >Andre >>First of all i have nothing but good things to say about jack. he is the >>only person i ever raced that hit me and sent an email appologizing. i

spoke >>with him yesterday. he said he has a new job and has been very busy. He >>wants to finish gpal and will do so when he has time.

> This may very well be true. But I find it very strange that Jack found the >time to post before,and now can't find 2 min to let us know what is going >on. > Joel Willstien Has anyone qualified actually offered to help Jack?

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> > This may very well be true. But I find it very strange that Jack found the > >time to post before,and now can't find 2 min to let us know what is going > >on. > > Joel Willstien > Has anyone qualified actually offered to help Jack?

I've been writing an application for GPL. I doubt very much that Jack is going to produce anything like GPaL, so, I'm trying to putt together something similar. Don't expect anything though as my programming abilities are limited to say the least. I did write the GPL lap time converter posted on The Pits, Sim Racing Mag, and Mike Hortons pages. Speaking of which, I have to send the updated version to the Pits site. Latest version is 1.0 (file ver.. 0.0.0.8) -- ========================================= Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing? ========================================= Racing online with the help of...... Race Communications Association http://members.xoom.com/RCA/toc.html Holodyne Engineering Mystic Music (have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

>> This may very well be true. But I find it very strange that Jack found the >>time to post before,and now can't find 2 min to let us know what is going >>on. >> Joel Willstien >Has anyone qualified actually offered to help Jack? I've never seen any posts from Jack asking for help. Joel Willstein