GPL online Pain to setup ?

I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the steps necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a pain as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? Joe

It looks worse than it is. It was about an hour of reading for me, including a bunch of related links, most of which you just skim over. Mind you, I'm the kind of guy who reads instructions and owner's manuals too, so I probably covered more than I had to. It's not that bad or that complex of a procedure, they're just very thorough. Trust me, it's worth it. Zog > I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the steps > necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a pain > as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart > precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? > Joe

From someone who never reads instructions unless it doesn't work right I tried it for the first time this weekend and it was very easy. A couple downloads and installs and away you go. BTW I tried MGPRS gameservice and it was the simplier of the two and was without warping or framerate stuttering, but without the vast number of available users that GPL has. On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:05:23 GMT, Doug Schneider

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>It looks worse than it is. It was about an hour of reading for me, including a >bunch of related links, most of which you just skim over. Mind you, I'm the >kind of guy who reads instructions and owner's manuals too, so I probably >covered more than I had to. It's not that bad or that complex of a procedure, >they're just very thorough. Trust me, it's worth it. > Zog >> I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the steps >> necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a pain >> as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart >> precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? >> Joe

GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that bad, and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing the Web. Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search engine to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any longer -- start racing on-line with GPL ASAP! -- JB >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the steps >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a pain >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? >Joe

After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go ahead and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2 & its patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone late last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of nowhere. I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what setup. I wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out. Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have to revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get responses to my other post on this matter. Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out. Joe > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that bad, > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing the > Web. Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search engine

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> to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any longer -- > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP! > -- JB > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the > steps > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a

pain > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? > >Joe

I give up on the 1.1 patch. Did a clean reinstall of GPL. Patched it with 1.1 Did the Mea***er 3.0 patch. Sound still sucks. The only thing that cures the problem is to replace the 1.1 exe file with the original. (Back to 1.0) This tells me the problem is with 1.1 and not the Mea***er sound patch. The question is : do I really need 1.1 ? If so it isn't worth the trouble. The 2.5" ride height isn't a problem as I use Allison Hines setups on every car. Most of the setups are 3.5". Is there really any other compelling reason to upgrade ? With all the problems I have seen here related to 1.1 why the hell did they release it ? If 1.0 won't work online then I guess I will just be racing with the AI from now on. Joe > I believe when you install the 1.1 patch any sounds you may have changed will be > overwritten with the default sounds from the patch. You should be able to > restore your sounds of choice using the same process you used to install them in > the first place. The first time I went on-line, I redid all my options, setups, > etc. because I was prompted for a new driver name, which I entered. I found out > later that all I had to do was hit the left arrow on the driver info screen and > there was my normal name with all my preferred options and setups. Depending on > the connection speed and quality of the various drivers in the race, some cars, > including possibly your own, may wink in and out erratically which is a pain in > the ass. Not much you can do about this, except try to join races with a fast > host. Even then, one driver with a poor connection can wreak havoc on the > entire field, but hey, they want to have fun too. To leave the race, all I've > ever had to do is bring the car to a complete stop, hit escape and then enter. > Your setups might feel all screwed up, because the 1.1 patch raised the minimum > ride height to 2.5", so no more go-kart setups. > The best advice I can give, if it's possible where you live, is to get a cable > modem connection at minimum. My on-line experience was pretty dreary with a > 56.6, even with good phone lines and a lot of tweaking. My ISP just couldn't > cut the mustard, and huge lapses in the connection made driving a nightmare for > myself and anyone else in the race, so I quit. With the cable modem, it's an

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> absolute treat to race on-line. Hope this helps, hope to see you on VROC. > Zog > > After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go

ahead > > and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2 & its > > patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone late > > last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of nowhere. > > I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on > > anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what setup. I > > wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out. > > Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my > > engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have to

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> > revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get > > responses to my other post on this matter. > > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out. > > Joe > > > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that > > bad, > > > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing

the > > > Web. Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search > > engine > > > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any longer --

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> > > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP! > > > -- JB > > > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at

the > > > steps > > > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a > > pain > > > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart > > > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? > > > >Joe

I believe when you install the 1.1 patch any sounds you may have changed will be overwritten with the default sounds from the patch. You should be able to restore your sounds of choice using the same process you used to install them in the first place. The first time I went on-line, I redid all my options, setups, etc. because I was prompted for a new driver name, which I entered. I found out later that all I had to do was hit the left arrow on the driver info screen and there was my normal name with all my preferred options and setups. Depending on the connection speed and quality of the various drivers in the race, some cars, including possibly your own, may wink in and out erratically which is a pain in the ass. Not much you can do about this, except try to join races with a fast host. Even then, one driver with a poor connection can wreak havoc on the entire field, but hey, they want to have fun too. To leave the race, all I've ever had to do is bring the car to a complete stop, hit escape and then enter. Your setups might feel all screwed up, because the 1.1 patch raised the minimum ride height to 2.5", so no more go-kart setups. The best advice I can give, if it's possible where you live, is to get a cable modem connection at minimum. My on-line experience was pretty dreary with a 56.6, even with good phone lines and a lot of tweaking. My ISP just couldn't cut the mustard, and huge lapses in the connection made driving a nightmare for myself and anyone else in the race, so I quit. With the cable modem, it's an absolute treat to race on-line. Hope this helps, hope to see you on VROC. Zog

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> After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go ahead > and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2 & its > patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone late > last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of nowhere. > I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on > anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what setup. I > wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out. > Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my > engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have to > revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get > responses to my other post on this matter. > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out. > Joe > > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that > bad, > > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing the > > Web. Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search > engine > > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any longer -- > > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP! > > -- JB > > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the > > steps > > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a > pain > > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart > > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? > > >Joe

It does indeed sound like the Mea***er patch isn't compatible with V1.1. If you just gotta have those sounds you're screwed. I've been running 1.1 since the day they released it, only problem I've had is the turbo/slo-mo thing once in a while. You can race on-line using 1.0 on VROC, there's a race room for people still using it. Zog

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> I give up on the 1.1 patch. Did a clean reinstall of GPL. Patched it with > 1.1 Did the Mea***er 3.0 patch. Sound still sucks. The only thing that > cures the problem is to replace the 1.1 exe file with the original. (Back to > 1.0) This tells me the problem is with 1.1 and not the Mea***er sound > patch. The question is : do I really need 1.1 ? If so it isn't worth the > trouble. The 2.5" ride height isn't a problem as I use Allison Hines setups > on every car. Most of the setups are 3.5". Is there really any other > compelling reason to upgrade ? With all the problems I have seen here > related to 1.1 why the hell did they release it ? If 1.0 won't work online > then I guess I will just be racing with the AI from now on. > Joe > > I believe when you install the 1.1 patch any sounds you may have changed > will be > > overwritten with the default sounds from the patch. You should be able to > > restore your sounds of choice using the same process you used to install > them in > > the first place. The first time I went on-line, I redid all my options, > setups, > > etc. because I was prompted for a new driver name, which I entered. I > found out > > later that all I had to do was hit the left arrow on the driver info > screen and > > there was my normal name with all my preferred options and setups. > Depending on > > the connection speed and quality of the various drivers in the race, some > cars, > > including possibly your own, may wink in and out erratically which is a > pain in > > the ass. Not much you can do about this, except try to join races with a > fast > > host. Even then, one driver with a poor connection can wreak havoc on the > > entire field, but hey, they want to have fun too. To leave the race, all > I've > > ever had to do is bring the car to a complete stop, hit escape and then > enter. > > Your setups might feel all screwed up, because the 1.1 patch raised the > minimum > > ride height to 2.5", so no more go-kart setups. > > The best advice I can give, if it's possible where you live, is to get a > cable > > modem connection at minimum. My on-line experience was pretty dreary with > a > > 56.6, even with good phone lines and a lot of tweaking. My ISP just > couldn't > > cut the mustard, and huge lapses in the connection made driving a > nightmare for > > myself and anyone else in the race, so I quit. With the cable modem, it's > an > > absolute treat to race on-line. Hope this helps, hope to see you on VROC. > > Zog > > > After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go > ahead > > > and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2 & > its > > > patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone > late > > > last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of > nowhere. > > > I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on > > > anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what > setup. I > > > wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out. > > > Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my > > > engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have > to > > > revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get > > > responses to my other post on this matter. > > > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out. > > > Joe > > > > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that > > > bad, > > > > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing > the > > > > Web. Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search > > > engine > > > > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any > longer -- > > > > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP! > > > > -- JB > > > > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at > the > > > > steps > > > > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a > > > pain > > > > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in > Cart > > > > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? > > > > >Joe

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> It does indeed sound like the Mea***er patch isn't compatible with V1.1. If > you just gotta have those sounds you're screwed. I've been running 1.1 since > the day they released it, only problem I've had is the turbo/slo-mo thing once > in a while. You can race on-line using 1.0 on VROC, there's a race room for > people still using it. > Zog

Mea***ers sounds did work on my v1.1 - depending on your definition of worked. For the Lotus, I could hear the beginning/end of the engine sound playback loop clearly. Useless. If this was a compability problem, I'd be most surprised though. Maybe it's a problem with the US v1.1? I have the UK version, Mea***er might have the german version? Hah! That's what you get for not having to have the CD in the drive! :D Cheers, /ft

Its not just that I gotta have the Mea***er sounds. I just prefer them. I have again done a clean reinstall with just GPL and the 1.1 patch. Tested sounds before and after patch. Before patch ok. After patch sucks. This tells me the problem is definitely with 1.1 Should I try a different country version ? I have the US version. I went to VROC in 1.0 and no one to race. Guess 1.1 is the only way to do anything on VROC now. Just thought of something.... Can and external sound program have anything to do with it ? I do have Winamp on my system. I have it setup exactly as I want it so would rather not change anything if this can't be related. There has to be a simple solution to this, I just haven't stumbled onto it yet. Joe > It does indeed sound like the Mea***er patch isn't compatible with V1.1. If > you just gotta have those sounds you're screwed. I've been running 1.1 since > the day they released it, only problem I've had is the turbo/slo-mo thing once > in a while. You can race on-line using 1.0 on VROC, there's a race room for

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> people still using it. > Zog > > I give up on the 1.1 patch. Did a clean reinstall of GPL. Patched it

with > > 1.1 Did the Mea***er 3.0 patch. Sound still sucks. The only thing that > > cures the problem is to replace the 1.1 exe file with the original. (Back to > > 1.0) This tells me the problem is with 1.1 and not the Mea***er sound > > patch. The question is : do I really need 1.1 ? If so it isn't worth the > > trouble. The 2.5" ride height isn't a problem as I use Allison Hines setups > > on every car. Most of the setups are 3.5". Is there really any other > > compelling reason to upgrade ? With all the problems I have seen here > > related to 1.1 why the hell did they release it ? If 1.0 won't work online > > then I guess I will just be racing with the AI from now on. > > Joe > > > I believe when you install the 1.1 patch any sounds you may have changed > > will be > > > overwritten with the default sounds from the patch. You should be able to > > > restore your sounds of choice using the same process you used to install > > them in > > > the first place. The first time I went on-line, I redid all my options,

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> > setups, > > > etc. because I was prompted for a new driver name, which I entered. I > > found out > > > later that all I had to do was hit the left arrow on the driver info > > screen and > > > there was my normal name with all my preferred options and setups. > > Depending on > > > the connection speed and quality of the various drivers in the race,

some > > cars, > > > including possibly your own, may wink in and out erratically which is a > > pain in > > > the ass. Not much you can do about this, except try to join races with a > > fast > > > host. Even then, one driver with a poor connection can wreak havoc on the > > > entire field, but hey, they want to have fun too. To leave the race, all > > I've > > > ever had to do is bring the car to a complete stop, hit escape and then > > enter. > > > Your setups might feel all screwed up, because the 1.1 patch raised the > > minimum > > > ride height to 2.5", so no more go-kart setups. > > > The best advice I can give, if it's possible where you live, is to get a > > cable > > > modem connection at minimum. My on-line experience was pretty dreary with > > a > > > 56.6, even with good phone lines and a lot of tweaking. My ISP just > > couldn't > > > cut the mustard, and huge lapses in the connection made driving a > > nightmare for > > > myself and anyone else in the race, so I quit. With the cable modem, it's > > an > > > absolute treat to race on-line. Hope this helps, hope to see you on VROC.

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> > > Zog > > > > After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go > > ahead > > > > and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2

& > > its > > > > patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone > > late > > > > last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of > > nowhere. > > > > I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on > > > > anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what > > setup. I > > > > wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out. > > > > Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my > > > > engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have

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> > to > > > > revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get > > > > responses to my other post on this matter. > > > > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out. > > > > Joe > > > > > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all

that > > > > bad, > > > > > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing > > the > > > > > Web. Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search

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> > > > engine > > > > > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any > > longer -- > > > > > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP! > > > > > -- JB > > > > > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking

at > > the > > > > > steps > > > > > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a > > > > pain > > > > > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in > > Cart > > > > > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ? > > > > > >Joe

Mea***ers installer really only uncompresses the .wav's into the \sound folder? Thought, he'd replace the sound.dat. Then his installer is more unnecessary than I thought (Ever heard of WinZip, Mea***er?). BTW, the installer was the only reason, why I didn't try his sounds (You can never know, what such a thingy really does... ;-). I just wonder, which problems Turbojoe has then... !! placed here) Peter Vienna, Austria

>It does indeed sound like the Mea***er patch isn't compatible with V1.1. If >you just gotta have those sounds you're screwed. I've been running 1.1 since >the day they released it, only problem I've had is the turbo/slo-mo thing once >in a while. You can race on-line using 1.0 on VROC, there's a race room for >people still using it. I installed Mea***ers latest sound patch with gpl v1.1 and it worked fine. However,I didn't care for all of the engine sounds,so I used what I liked. Joel Willstein