GPL, What a Simulation....

Hi everyone, I was doing an offline race last night at Monza with 19 pilots. I qualified 2nd on the grid. At Curva Grande i was third, i kept my concentration high since the Eagle behaved so-so on cold tires. After the Vialone i was thinking "great still third, i'm doing fine", then i lost the car in the Parabolica !!! I hit shift-R, then made a "stop & go" in the pits (i understand that's the way they do it with online race and that being my goal in the future). I climbed my way up from 20th. to finished 7th. after a 21 laps race. I also took the fastest lap (1'29,57"). I was a bit frustrated by my mistake in the Parabolica, but after cooling down, it was a great way to practice passing cars.... GPL is high up there on immersion with Longbow 2 & Apache-Havoc, for me that is.... Thank you Papyrus... Regards, C. Giroux.

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> Hi everyone, > I was doing an offline race last night at Monza with > 19 pilots. I qualified 2nd on the grid. At Curva Grande i was third, i kept > my concentration high since the Eagle behaved so-so on cold tires. > After the Vialone i was thinking "great still third, i'm doing fine", then i > lost the car in the Parabolica !!! I hit shift-R, then made a "stop & go" in > the pits (i understand that's the way they do it with online race and that > being my goal in the future). > I climbed my way up from 20th. to finished 7th. after a 21 laps race. I also > took the fastest lap (1'29,57"). I was a bit frustrated by my mistake in the > Parabolica, but after cooling down, it was a great way to practice passing > cars.... > GPL is high up there on immersion with Longbow 2 & Apache-Havoc, for me that > is....

Hehehe, use the Longbow next time.... you are sure to win! Dave Hawnt UKGPL

imagine a 100% race at any track, .... I start the race with 50% fuel ... at midrace, i stop somewhere and Shift-R ... I am again with 50% of fuel ... is this fair ? is a 0.0 sec pit stop .... someone using this ? McKafre De La Rosa PS: I never drive 100% races, it is only a question ...

: imagine a 100% race at any track, .... I start the race with 50% fuel ... at : midrace, i stop somewhere and Shift-R ... : I am again with 50% of fuel ... : is this fair ? is a 0.0 sec pit stop .... : someone using this ? Heh - I'd considered it since I typically crash off every third lap at a course like Monza I only really need ever have three laps of fuel in the car. Don't do it of course because it would be cheating. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York. www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html

On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:44:30 GMT, Doug Schneider

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>> snip >> > After the Vialone i was thinking "great still third, i'm doing fine", then i >> > lost the car in the Parabolica !!! I hit shift-R, then made a "stop & go" in >> > the pits (i understand that's the way they do it with online race and that >> > being my goal in the future). >> snip >Is this standard on-line eitiquette? First I've heard of it and I haven't been >doing it.

It's the practice in the GPLWS league. It's a balance between PRO races (with no reset and no recourse if you warp-crash or get crashed out by another's actions) and just plain INT settings (the standard reset doesn't give much of a penalty). I haven't seen it in pick-up VROC races. "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

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>> snip >> > After the Vialone i was thinking "great still third, i'm doing fine", then i >> > lost the car in the Parabolica !!! I hit shift-R, then made a "stop & go" in >> > the pits (i understand that's the way they do it with online race and that >> > being my goal in the future). >> snip >Is this standard on-line eitiquette? First I've heard of it and I haven't been >doing it. > Zog

This is indeed what some online leagues are implementing now, and indeed i have been doing it in some friendly online races too, because i feel that the shift r is too big a copout if the fault was all mine.If it was caused by somebody else then i might not do this :-) I was in a race yesterday at kyalami in the lead ,coming round the last corner my engine died,as if a piston had gone or something, so i pulled into the pits stopped and then pressed shift r and carried on to finish 4th. I think its a great idea but im sure many wouldnt bother,but it gives me peace of mind. I had always felt like i had cheated if i had done well in a race where i had had to use shift r, and now i dont have to. -- Vince Fisher

I wish I could tell who's fault it really was half the time. Did I wink in in front of the other driver or vice-versa? Nothing more frustrating than dogging a driver lap after lap and they finally lose it in a corner, so you go by giving them a wide berth and next thing you know they materialize directly in front of your car. Oh well, I guess we've still got a ways to go before this is perfect, but it sure is fun. Zog

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> >> snip > >> > After the Vialone i was thinking "great still third, i'm doing fine", then i > >> > lost the car in the Parabolica !!! I hit shift-R, then made a "stop & go" in > >> > the pits (i understand that's the way they do it with online race and that > >> > being my goal in the future). > >> snip > >Is this standard on-line eitiquette? First I've heard of it and I haven't been > >doing it. > > Zog > This is indeed what some online leagues are implementing now, and indeed > i have been doing it in some friendly online races too, because i feel > that the shift r is too big a copout if the fault was all mine.If it was > caused by somebody else then i might not do this :-) > I was in a race yesterday at kyalami in the lead ,coming round the last > corner my engine died,as if a piston had gone or something, so i pulled > into the pits stopped and then pressed shift r and carried on to finish > 4th. > I think its a great idea but im sure many wouldnt bother,but it gives me > peace of mind. I had always felt like i had cheated if i had done well > in a race where i had had to use shift r, and now i dont have to. > -- > Vince Fisher

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>says... >> > snip >> > > After the Vialone i was thinking "great still third, i'm doing fine", then i >> > > lost the car in the Parabolica !!! I hit shift-R, then made a "stop & go" in >> > > the pits (i understand that's the way they do it with online race and that >> > > being my goal in the future). >> > snip >> Is this standard on-line eitiquette? First I've heard of it and I haven't been >> doing it. >I've never heard of it - it's enough of a penalty to have to slow to a >stop, then end up with cold tires and a full tank of gas having to get >back up to racing speed! >Anyway it would be impossible to enforce.

It will not. In the SRM Challenge http://www.simracingmag.com/ we will use that method. You can just look on the replay to see if anyone as done wrong. No problem at all. /Magnus

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> >says... > >> > snip > >> > > After the Vialone i was thinking "great still third, i'm doing fine", then i > >> > > lost the car in the Parabolica !!! I hit shift-R, then made a "stop & go" in > >> > > the pits (i understand that's the way they do it with online race and that > >> > > being my goal in the future). > >> > snip > >> Is this standard on-line eitiquette? First I've heard of it and I haven't been > >> doing it. > >I've never heard of it - it's enough of a penalty to have to slow to a > >stop, then end up with cold tires and a full tank of gas having to get > >back up to racing speed! > >Anyway it would be impossible to enforce. > It will not. In the SRM Challenge http://www.simracingmag.com/ we will use > that method. You can just look on the replay to see if anyone as done wrong. > No problem at all. > /Magnus

I'm pretty sure he meant in pick-up races, not league. Zog

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>imagine a 100% race at any track, .... I start the race with 50% fuel ... at >midrace, i stop somewhere and Shift-R ... >I am again with 50% of fuel ... >is this fair ? is a 0.0 sec pit stop .... >someone using this ?

I've done it accidentally - meaning I didn't PLAN it that way. I started a 21 lap race once withoug checking my fuel. After about 5 laps, I remembered that I was using a setup for about 11 laps... When the engine faltered, I pulled over, and hit Shift-R. At that point, I really didn't have a CHOICE. However, I think the benefits of running with a lower fuel load would be offset by having to STOP, then start again on cold tires... Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>> GPL is high up there on immersion with Longbow 2 & Apache-Havoc, for me >that >> is.... >Hehehe, use the Longbow next time.... you are sure to win! >Dave Hawnt UKGPL WOuldn't that depend on the weapons load? You could LITERALLY blow away the competition...<g>g Eldred __ Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea... remove SPAM-OFF to reply.