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GP500 Demo Lap Times

20 posts by 9 people · 17 Aug 1999 - 19 Aug 1999

GP500 demo lap times and controllers

Brian Needham invited GP500 demo lap times for his site, later offering ghost laps. Posters shared times around 1:49-2:00 and debated whether a wheel, joystick or paddles best suits a bike game. A steering hesitation in the chicane was reported, and the lead programmer was said to be monitoring complaints on a fan forum.

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On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:37:52 GMT, "Brian Needham" >Please go to my site and send me your fastest laps. >http://www.brian.needham.clara.co.uk I went but didn't - I can't be arsed making several screen grabs, mailing etc - are people really going to lie about lap times in a demo, and if they do does it really matter? Cheers! John
2 minutes dead on the Honda V-twin... I can't be bothered to go through the motions either. ;-) Jan. ------ >On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:37:52 GMT, "Brian Needham" <snip>
I have now changed the site. You can download the ghost laps of the best laps so it gives you something to beat. Brian > 2 minutes dead on the Honda V-twin... I can't be bothered to go through the
Quoted text (7 lines)> motions either. ;-) > Jan. > ------ > >On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:37:52 GMT, "Brian Needham" > <snip>
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:32:19 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" >2 minutes dead on the Honda V-twin... I can't be bothered to go through the >motions either. ;-) 1:49.386 on the Honda, and 1:50.4xx on the Suzuki. There's quite a bit more time in there I think, I keep missing the odd apex and I've yet to decide on the best line through two of the sections. Cheers! John
tampa 18 Aug 1999#486788
I think my fastest was 2:16, heh. What are you all using to control the bike?
Quoted text (11 lines)> What lap times are you all getting? > Please go to my site and send me your fastest laps. > http://www.brian.needham.clara.co.uk > No times up at the minute, so if you send them fast you might be number 1. > :-) > Thanks > Brian Needham
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:36:49 -0400, "tampa" >I think my fastest was 2:16, heh. What are you all using to control the >bike? Francois showed us all how to use the force - it's simple thereafter... :-) Cheers! John
Just a thrustmaster T2 wheel, I'm down to 1:51's. I have it on auto Lean. -- Kevin Anderson ICQ # 6769389
and a Flightstick seems more realistic to you? -- Kevin Anderson ICQ # 6769389 > A wheel... to control a bike... hmmm, nah! > Jan./gonna use the full game as an excuse to buy a FF stick. ;-) > ------ > >Just a thrustmaster T2 wheel, I'm down to 1:51's. I have it on auto Lean. > <Snip>
YIPE! Good going John! Jan. ------ ><Snip> >1:49.386 on the Honda, and 1:50.4xx on the Suzuki. <snip>
A wheel... to control a bike... hmmm, nah! Jan./gonna use the full game as an excuse to buy a FF stick. ;-) ------ >Just a thrustmaster T2 wheel, I'm down to 1:51's. I have it on auto Lean. <Snip>
Eric Cote 19 Aug 1999#486946
Agree Kevin, there's no control realistic at the momeent, therefor i don't mind driving with my wheel
Quoted text (19 lines)> and a Flightstick seems more realistic to you? > -- > Kevin Anderson > ICQ # 6769389 > > A wheel... to control a bike... hmmm, nah! > > Jan./gonna use the full game as an excuse to buy a FF stick. ;-) > > ------ > > >Just a thrustmaster T2 wheel, I'm down to 1:51's. I have it on auto Lean. > > <Snip>
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Ma 19 Aug 1999#486947
Are you guys getting the "steering hesitations" ? It happens alot in the chicane before the last turn. If you are, please post a message on the www.gp500.net forum under the "Steering hiccups..." thread. The lead programmer is monitoring this thread for user complaints. Thanks
Quoted text (11 lines)>On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:36:49 -0400, "tampa" >>I think my fastest was 2:16, heh. What are you all using to control the >>bike? >Francois showed us all how to use the force - it's simple >thereafter... :-) >Cheers! >John
Eric Cote 19 Aug 1999#486948
I've had this problem once, after checking up, my deadzone (in the game) increased by few percent on itself... Eric http://www.simracingmag.com
Quoted text (22 lines)> Are you guys getting the "steering hesitations" ? It happens alot in > the chicane before the last turn. If you are, please post a message > on the www.gp500.net forum under the "Steering hiccups..." thread. > The lead programmer is monitoring this thread for user complaints. > Thanks > >On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:36:49 -0400, "tampa" > >>I think my fastest was 2:16, heh. What are you all using to control the > >>bike? > >Francois showed us all how to use the force - it's simple > >thereafter... :-) > >Cheers! > >John
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On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:22:52 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" >A wheel... to control a bike... hmmm, nah! I haven't seen too many bikes with my crappy $5 joystick attached to the front either :-) Cheers! John
>Are you guys getting the "steering hesitations" ? It happens alot in >the chicane before the last turn. If you are, please post a message >on the www.gp500.net forum under the "Steering hiccups..." thread. >The lead programmer is monitoring this thread for user complaints. I'm not seeing a hesitation as such, there is definitely some delay in flicking through the chicane but even an athlete like myself (ahem) takes some time to move his ***to the appropriate position and lean the bike. I don't notice any "pause" either with joystick or with keys - never tried with a wheel, FF or otherwise. Personally I think the game is tremendous fun, my one complaint would be that I trail brake constantly and heavily - it seems far too forgiving of such antics. I also find I can run 1:48s by straightlining the second part of the left/right flick before the final hairpin by straightening up the bike and blasting straight across the kerbs and grass, which probably shouldn't be possible. One other thing is that the tyres seem to be "warm" rather than one side or the other side. At first the bike is pretty squirrely as the tires are cold then it grips real well after about a lap or a bit less. However my understanding is that after a series of right handers the left side of the tire should be somewhat cold and as I go into the next left hander the bike should be a little more nervous. As I've never ridden a bike at anything approaching a respectable speed excuse me if this is total bollocks, but I just recall a program where one of the BTCC touring car drivers swapped his car with one of the 500cc bike guys for a day, and the bike guy was explaining this and warning the car driver to be very careful of it. Anyway, the point is whether this is modelled in GP500, because if so it's too subtle for me to see (or perhaps I've just got used to it and think that those corners are less grippy?). The bike certainly seems less grippy at the start, but after that it tends to be fine all round the track. Cheers! John
Of course not, but it feels better to me. At least you tilt a stick to steer. Jan. -----
Quoted text (8 lines)>and a Flightstick seems more realistic to you? >-- >Kevin Anderson >ICQ # 6769389 ><Snip>
Don't encourage him Eric... it's just plane wrong. (intentional ;-)) Jan. ------ >Agree Kevin, there's no control realistic at the momeent, therefor i >don't mind driving with my wheel <snip>
ymenard 19 Aug 1999#486953
The force.. yes, yes hmm the Force... "For my ally is the Force. And a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. It's energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter! You must feel the Force around you. Here, between you...me...the tree...the rock...everywhere!" Im down to 1:49:8x and still not a perfect lap ;) But you haven't seen the movie yet, shame to you ;-P -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
> A wheel... to control a bike... hmmm, nah! Actually, a cheap wheel like the old TM GP1, short -calibrated so that the wheel tilt matches the bike tilt, with analog hand paddles for gas and brake does nicely for a bike sim. You can get the current TM version, the Charger, for about $30 U.S. online, and there are several other paddle-only wheels out there cheap. Beyond that, a CH flight yoke with pedals might do well in lieu of a dedicated handlebar-style controller (assuming the final supports multiple analog axis inputs). Cheers, Steve B.

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