GPL 1.1 & TNT & Voodoo2 ?

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> Hi, > Got a problem and need some help: > I'd like to get more detail. Question is: anyone experimented with a > TNT and a Voodoo2 in the same computer? Is it possible? If it is, then > how does it work with GPL? > Thanks in advance for all help. > Max

Before I got a V3 3000 I ran a TNT (Creative) with 1 then 2 V2s (SLI) Never had a problem with either configuration. With the PIII and even one V2 you should get more than acceptable framerates - Do it ! Cheers.. Phillip..

Hi Max, Just a newbie to GPL. You've basically got my setup. I bought a Dell PIII-450 with the RIVA TNT about and month ago and THEN discovered GPL. Since I use my PC for work, I was a little apprehensive about pulling the video card and replacing it. So I bought the VooDoo2 1000 12MB card because it was an add on. I can now run GPL with EVERYTHING on and still get 36 FPS. It's great! Gene

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> Hi, > Got a problem and need some help: > Bought a Dell PIII 500 a few months ago. Came with a NVidia RIVA TNT > card. To get a decent fps (near 36) I'm playing GPL 1.1 with all > details off at 1078x768. 640x480 is way too grainy and 800x600 never > worked. Yes, I'm using the beta2 OpenGL driver and the core.ini > recommended. > I'd like to get more detail. Question is: anyone experimented with a > TNT and a Voodoo2 in the same computer? Is it possible? If it is, then > how does it work with GPL? > Quoted a 3DFX 1000 PCI 12MB VOODOO2 for $70. Is this price good or I > can get lower than that? > Thanks in advance for all help. > Max

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> Hi Max, > Just a newbie to GPL. You've basically got my setup. I bought a Dell > PIII-450 with the RIVA TNT about and month ago and THEN discovered GPL. > Since I use my PC for work, I was a little apprehensive about pulling the > video card and replacing it. So I bought the VooDoo2 1000 12MB card because > it was an add on. I can now run GPL with EVERYTHING on and still get 36 FPS. > It's great!

That's very interesting - I have a 16mb Voodoo Banshee, which is supposed to be quite a bit faster than a single Voodoo-2 (someone on ras confirmed this recently). However, I can only get 36fps if I turn off most of the detail and run against 2 AI cars at most. Guess what - I have a P233! Seems to prove conclusively that GPL is CPU-bound (probably floating point, from what I've heard about the PIII). Sadly my Dell can't be upgraded beyond 233 MHz, and in fact it's not even my computer, so what am I complaining about? ;-)

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> Hi Max, > Just a newbie to GPL. You've basically got my setup. I bought a Dell > PIII-450 with the RIVA TNT about and month ago and THEN discovered GPL. > Since I use my PC for work, I was a little apprehensive about pulling the > video card and replacing it. So I bought the VooDoo2 1000 12MB card because > it was an add on. I can now run GPL with EVERYTHING on and still get 36 FPS. > It's great! > Gene

Interesting, at what resolution did you get 36 fps ? I have a Compaq with a PIII 450 with a V2, but I have to turn some minor details off at 800x600 to get a solid 36. Or maybe it is the 1.1 patch. But I do have a hunch that my system is underperforming. Anyway, in a week or so I'm going to buy myself a standard motherboard and a standard cabinet, and rebuild the whole thing so I can get out of the Compaq curse. If a V2 is getting good fps, I have two choises, buy a TNT2 or a G400, and keep the V2, or buy a V3 3000. Can anyone help ? -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

Hi Olav, I was getting a good solid 36 FPS at 800X600. I went up to 1024X768 and the FPS went down into the high 20's or so. Didn't pay much attention though because it started crashing and freezing up. I backed down to 800X600 again but am still getting occasional crashes. I guess this is the price of all this incompatible technology. There are so many variables and just as soon as you see someone who has a setup that works or doesn't , someone else claims just the opposite. It's hard to keep up. But oh is GPL ***ive! Gene > > Hi Max, > > Just a newbie to GPL. You've basically got my setup. I bought a Dell > > PIII-450 with the RIVA TNT about and month ago and THEN discovered GPL. > > Since I use my PC for work, I was a little apprehensive about pulling the > > video card and replacing it. So I bought the VooDoo2 1000 12MB card because > > it was an add on. I can now run GPL with EVERYTHING on and still get 36 FPS. > > It's great! > > Gene > Interesting, at what resolution did you get 36 fps ? I have a Compaq with a > PIII 450 with a V2, but I have to turn some minor details off at 800x600 to > get a solid 36. Or maybe it is the 1.1 patch. But I do have a hunch that my > system is underperforming. Anyway, in a week or so I'm going to buy myself a > standard motherboard and a standard cabinet, and rebuild the whole thing so > I can get out of the Compaq curse. If a V2 is getting good fps, I have two > choises, buy a TNT2 or a G400, and keep the V2, or buy a V3 3000. Can anyone > help ? > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

Get a tweakable motherboard, such as the Abit B(something)6, so you can experiment with BIOS setting to get the best out of your other hardware. Since you already have a V2, I would keep this and get a TNT2 (or G400). I own a V3 2000 (supposedly only one 7th slower than the 3000. It has slower RAM and is clocked at a slightly lower speed.), which is a nice enough card. But it's not a revelation even in comparison to my old V1. It's better and faster than the V1, for sure, but not several orders of magnitude as the hype about this card would led one to believe. From what I read, the TNT2 seems to be the superior chip - just not for GPL. If GPL is all you play, take the V3 for maximum performance. If you also play other titles (D3D mode), a TNT2 *and* a V2 seems to be a great combination. -- Wolfgang Preiss \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.